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House Dems seek to repeal marriage law
The Hill ^ | September 13, 2009 | Michael M. Gleeson

Posted on 09/13/2009 6:05:48 PM PDT by jazusamo

House lawmakers are poised to introduce legislation that would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA).

The law, which was signed by President Bill Clinton in 1996, defines marriage as between a man and a woman, and prevents same-sex married couples from receiving the same federal benefits as heterosexual married couples.

Reps. Jerold Nadler (D-N.Y.), Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), and Jared Polis (D-Colo.) -- who is the first openly gay member elected to the House -- plan to introduce a bill this week that would scrap DOMA. Baldwin is also gay.

In the 13 years since the bill was signed into law, four states – Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, and Vermont – have recognized same-sex marriages. In 2010, New Hampshire will likewise change its marriage laws to recognize same-sex marriage.

President Barack Obama during his 2008 campaign promised a full repeal of the DOMA.

In June, Obama announced a package of domestic partnership benefits for federal workers. However, the president did not extend full health benefits to same-sex couples, drawing strong criticism from gay leaders.

Defending his position of extending only certain benefits to same-sex couples, Obama said, “Unfortunately, my administration is not authorized by existing federal law to provide same-sex couples with the full range of benefits enjoyed by heterosexual couples.”

Obama added, “That’s why I stand by my long-standing commitment to work with Congress to repeal the so-called Defense of Marriage Act…It’s discriminatory, it interferes with states’ rights, and it’s time we overturned it.”

The three House lawmakers are scheduled to unveil their bill at a press conference on Tuesday.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Colorado; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; baldwin; bho44; bhohomosexualagenda; doma; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homobama; homosexualagenda; nadler; perverts; polis; samesexmarriage
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Surprising the Dems would try this before the 2010 election, this could put the Repubs back in control.
1 posted on 09/13/2009 6:05:49 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Socialist Health Care
Repeal Defense of Marriage Act
Cap and Tax

These guys are going to be popular. And we’re going to be busy.


2 posted on 09/13/2009 6:09:11 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: jazusamo

Baldwin is a homo too? I didn’t know that.


3 posted on 09/13/2009 6:09:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans! "Behaving badly" since April 19, 1775!)
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To: jazusamo

This is a drop in the bucket compared to the other stuff they’re pulling.

Don’t look at the waving hand.


4 posted on 09/13/2009 6:09:58 PM PDT by TheZMan (White male, short hair, armed Patriot. Keep pushing.)
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To: jazusamo

I dare them. It will never pass the house, let alone the Senate. So, they will be spending political capital (what little if any is left) on a dead issue.

GREAT!

We should all be rooting for such moves by the liberals.


5 posted on 09/13/2009 6:11:29 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: TheZMan

You’re correct but this is something that people have spoken out overwhelmingly against.


6 posted on 09/13/2009 6:12:04 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: BunnySlippers

and they are, evidently, going to introduce immigration legislation by the end of the year too. They’re bound and determined to commit political suicide


7 posted on 09/13/2009 6:13:30 PM PDT by sofaman (To be or not to be is not a question of compromise. Either you be or you don't be. - Golda Meir)
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To: jazusamo

The gays are pushing it too far. They will not gain affirmation of their affliction ~ most likely people will simply return to the position that they are abhorrant.


8 posted on 09/13/2009 6:15:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jazusamo

A commercial should be made with the entire montage of the ‘socialist, anti-American, agenda’ that these RATs are trying to shove down the throats of Americans. I would gladly contribute to such an effort. Plus the entire congressional elections should be ‘nationalized’ in terms of a national ‘repeal agenda’ of all this crap these RATs are trying to do.


9 posted on 09/13/2009 6:15:56 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: jazusamo
"It’s discriminatory, it interferes with states’ rights, and it’s time we overturned it.”

Blowing smoke...he knows that the states rights debate will bring up Roe v. Wade.

10 posted on 09/13/2009 6:20:24 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: BunnySlippers

Whether repeal of DOMA will ultimately be on that list or not, comprehensive immigration reform is the next thing they plan to do. And their plan is to do that prior to the 2010 elections. Lots of luck to them.


11 posted on 09/13/2009 6:23:33 PM PDT by JLS
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To: jazusamo; All
"House Dems seek to repeal marriage law"


12 posted on 09/13/2009 6:25:48 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: jazusamo
Our state legislature is attempting to repeal the NJ defense of marriage act.

Our diocese have been collecting signatures for two weeks now.

13 posted on 09/13/2009 6:26:23 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: BunnySlippers
Democrats = scum of the earth who, unleashed in the Obama administration, are slowly, but surely, doing away with everything decent and moral and turning the nation into a cesspool of:

deviates,

race-baiters,

anti-Christian,

propagandists,

pro-illegal alien,

protection of civil rights of terrorists,

corrupt individuals (who aspire to democrat leadership),

and people who live off government entitlements

14 posted on 09/13/2009 6:28:50 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: jazusamo

I have always said that the left’s main problem is that they are math-impaired. Now they think that pandering to the 2 percent of the population who believes they are gay will turn the tide in their favor.


15 posted on 09/13/2009 6:29:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: muawiyah; All
"The gays are pushing it too far. They will not gain affirmation of their affliction ~ most likely people will simply return to the position that they are abhorrant."


16 posted on 09/13/2009 6:37:20 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Albion Wilde

if someone made a documentary of what was going on in Connecticut and Mass ... and showed it to “the heartland”, people would see what the future holds if this movement is not squashed .... by the time people see the seriousness, it is often too late.


17 posted on 09/13/2009 6:38:41 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: jazusamo
When's the Goat Marriage Act being introduced? Might as well....we are falling off the cliff pretty fast, might as well sport some hooves/sarc


18 posted on 09/13/2009 6:56:49 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
if someone made a documentary of what was going on in Connecticut and Mass ... and showed it to “the heartland”, people would see what the future holds if this movement is not squashed .... by the time people see the seriousness, it is often too late.

For the benefit of those who may not know, could you please describe some of the aftereffects of the legalization of gay marriage in those states? How has it changed things there?

19 posted on 09/13/2009 7:09:58 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: Albion Wilde

i have heard 100 stories, I will give you one of the tame ones:

I was walking on the campus of Central Connecticut State University and noticed that a group called ‘True Colors’ was running a gay-bi-lesbian-transgender Day for high school students who showed up in buses. They had speakers from Gay groups and then had break-out room for discussion on the challenges of the GBLT community and other lifestyle stuff. I was annoyed that it was at a state school. Then later I found out that the organizers were paid by the state Goverment and the University was officially sponsoring the event, not just letting them use the school.

Public libraries are full of the gay literature and high schools have “GBLT and friends” clubs that do activism and discussion with guest speakers, etc.

it is far worse than what I describe.


20 posted on 09/13/2009 7:23:11 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: jazusamo

What better time to do it than when we have a bisexual president in the White House?


21 posted on 09/13/2009 7:23:13 PM PDT by pallis
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To: jazusamo

If the leftist Democrats in Congress keep up proposing or passing these types laws, we the general public in America just may decide to vote out such congress critters. Call me silly, but I think I saw about 500,000+ of we the public on TV in D.C. 9/12 protesting about similar moves by our government.


22 posted on 09/13/2009 7:39:05 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: LibFreeUSA

“A commercial should be made with the entire montage of the ‘socialist, anti-American, agenda’ that these RATs are trying to shove down the throats of Americans...”

Forward your comment to the fools at the GOP/RNC and maybe they will do this the month after they lose again in 11/2010. I’m saying the opposition has no idea what to do with these gifts by the left.


23 posted on 09/13/2009 7:42:18 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: muawiyah
most likely people will simply return to the position that they are abhorrant.

They seem to be known for politically motivated violence. This is not your 50's era black sit-in crowd.

24 posted on 09/13/2009 8:21:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: pallis

Now, now, Barack Obama may be accused of lots of things, but I’ve never heard he was a gender bender.


25 posted on 09/13/2009 8:22:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: Albion Wilde

What same-sex “marriage” has done to Massachusetts
It’s far worse than most people realize
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/effects_of_ssm.html

Assault on children in the Schools
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/info/kbase/horror_stories.html

Brutal fascist tactics against citizens.
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/info/kbase/facist_tactics.html

Fistgate
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/fistgate/massnews.html

Transgender proms
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/events07/youthpride07/tran_prom.html
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/09b/youth_pride/index.html

It’s 1984 in Massachusetts - And Big Brother Is Gay
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/MAFistgte.htm

....just for starters....


26 posted on 09/13/2009 8:28:18 PM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Guy by the name of Larry Sinclair swears him and Zero had a poop-chute party.


27 posted on 09/13/2009 8:37:32 PM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion)
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To: Quickgun
a colorful chap
28 posted on 09/13/2009 8:45:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: massmike

Massachusetts is bad news.


29 posted on 09/13/2009 8:46:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: massmike
And the dragging off of people out of church to be mutilated.

...transgender/transsexual” activists... want to offer your children on the bloody altar of transsexuality -- pulling them into sex-change operations involving unimaginable bodily mutilations and hormonal manipulations. ...

The culture of death has created a compulsion in the souls of the homosexual radicals and their "trans" allies, driving them ever further into new perversions. There is no bottom to this pit of depravity, and they will drag many innocent victims along with them: the young, the lonely, the psychologically and physically wounded, the confused – including some of your children and grandchildren, family, friends and neighbors. There will be no safe haven. You cannot cocoon in your homes or churches. Our public schools, businesses, public accommodations (which may include churches), your employers and insurers, will all be forced to yield to yet-undefined perversions, protected by law.

Cover page of 135 page report from MassResistance. I think they may be gilding the lilly a bit. I don't consider them as reliable as even World Net Daily, I'm afraid, and think their fantastic claims do us more harm than good.

Since same-sex marriage is genuinely harmful, we should be able to enumerate just how badly the institution of marriage itself has been damaged in Massachusetts. Such metrics as increased divorce rate, higher numbers of single parent families, lowered number of true marriages, that kind of thing. Objective tests. The damage should be obvious by now, the data incontrovertible. Is MSM hiding it? Can't some conservative group collect this data from an objective source? We need those figures to justify DOMA.

30 posted on 09/13/2009 8:53:55 PM PDT by Zoe Brain (Rocket Scientist, Naval Combat System Architect)
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To: massmike

Defining Marriage Down . . .
is no way to save it.
by David Blankenhorn
04/02/2007, Volume 012, Issue 28
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/451noxve.asp

“Man”, “Woman”, “Husband”, “Wife” being banished from family law in Canada
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/feb/05022511.html

Complaint filed against Catholic Bishop for pastoral letter on marriage
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20716

Man Fired By American Red Cross For Not Celebrating Homosexuality
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/8652/CFI/family/index.htm

Pastor arrested for preaching sermon condemning homosexuality
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2004/jul/04070505.html

Batist Church sued by lesbians
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91486340


31 posted on 09/13/2009 9:18:53 PM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: jazusamo

Obama talking about states rights? He needs to find out about states rights and the 10th Amendment.


32 posted on 09/13/2009 9:28:37 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs & Glenn Beck- American Heroes! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yep,

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.politico.com/global/arena/baldwin_tammy.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.politico.com/arena/bio/tammy_baldwin.html&usg=__LzlIAwPZbzOm_Ed2_CENCnlMOiA=&h=375&w=250&sz=16&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=hOPyXUg1BZE6GM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=81&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtammy%2Bbaldwin%2Bcongress%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GWYE_enUS289US289%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1


33 posted on 09/13/2009 9:45:34 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: FlingWingFlyer; jazusamo; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued; Impy; Clemenza

Tammy Baldwin (Democrat from Madison, WI) is an “out” lesbian. She actually listed “LGBT” as her “religion” in a survey of members of Congress a few years back.

It’s misleading that they refer to Jared Polis (Democrat from Boulder, CO) as “the first openly gay member elected to the House.” Even if they exclude those that didn’t come out of the closet until after their initial election (but were subsequently reelected), such as Barney Frank, I thought that Tammy Baldwin was already openly lesbian when she was first elected. Maybe not, or maybe The Hill doesn’t deem “gay” to include both males and females with same-sex preference.

I really, really hope that these ultraliberals push a repeal of DOMA, since it will result in even more states adopting marriage-protection constitutional amendments and will revive the movement to adopt a Federal Marriage Amendment. The only risk is that Obama will then speak out against the repeal of DOMA in an attempt at a “Sister Souljah moment” and have people be fooled into thinking that he’s a “moderate” after all. But there is abbsolutely no way that DOMA will be repealed in this Congress.


34 posted on 09/14/2009 7:21:19 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Gay people have always been distrusted on account of their propensity for violent behavior. Sooner they come out and display that side the sooner they can be subjected to some serious beatdowns.


35 posted on 09/14/2009 8:29:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Larry Sinclair thinks Obooboo is sweetheart, a bit rough, but a real babe. I don’t know what Michelle thinks about him.


36 posted on 09/14/2009 8:53:40 AM PDT by pallis
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To: jazusamo
Jared Polis is supposedly a "partnered" homosexual. Let's see how monogamous he is.

JaredPolis: I was kissed by Sir Ian McClellan today (on the lips), and our nation has a new President!
Jan 20 Twitter entry

37 posted on 09/14/2009 4:35:43 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://twitter.com/kevinjjones)
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To: massmike

I want to thank you for your heartbreaking post. I had to set aside the time to read the many links thoroughly. Now I feel so sad on behalf of all those parents who cannot afford any alternative to the schools there. That the government participates so actively in GBLT recruitment is a profound violation of the First Amendment rights of religious believers to raise their own children. So very sad. I appreciate your having taken the time to post those links. Others should read them with extreme caution.


38 posted on 09/14/2009 5:24:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Thank you for your reply. May God deliver your state from this assault on children.


39 posted on 09/14/2009 5:26:04 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: Albion Wilde

Ping to this post for later reading


40 posted on 09/14/2009 5:29:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: massmike

Thank you for these links as well.


41 posted on 09/14/2009 6:02:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("A cultural problem cannot be solved with a political solution." -- Selwyn Duke)
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To: Zoe Brain

fantastic claims? attended a public hearing at the Judiciary committee at the state capitol on “transgender issues”. Just quote the agenda from the groups ... are they lying about their agenda?


42 posted on 09/14/2009 10:54:50 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: Albion Wilde

Yep I think Obama got about 80% of the vote in San Francisco. He’s hoping to get to 90% next election. You have to work hard for every vote. (sarcasm)


43 posted on 09/15/2009 4:04:31 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: massmike

Had I known Grace, the woman who received the vile phone calls from the homo-nazi intimidator, I would have hunted him down and broken every freakin’ bone in his face until he was begging for his life. He thinks he’s been harassed and beaten up in the past - he would not have believed the beating he would have received from me.


44 posted on 09/15/2009 7:27:48 PM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: AuH2ORepublican
I really, really hope that these ultraliberals push a repeal of DOMA, since it will result in even more states adopting marriage-protection constitutional amendments and will revive the movement to adopt a Federal Marriage Amendment.

The adoption of state marriage-protection amendments will be a moot point for states if the repeal of DOMA does go through - I can hardly see how such amendments could be a safeguard.

I mourn the fact that we've lost any real chance to pass a Federal Marriage Amendment - the window of opportunity was open a crack several years ago, but the vile moderates, libertarians, and head-in-the-sand, let's-be-nice Republicans thought it was overkill and mean, saying that an amendment could be passed if the dire need arose. Well, the logical conclusion of our apathy and downright stupidity is upon us. Do we think that after state enforced sodomy recognition-as-marriage is forced on us all that the momentum will EVER be regained to pass such an amendment? And that during the lengthy process required to do so, untold injury and outright rape to every decent societal value will not be brought upon Americans in every quarter of society with a raging vengeance by the homo-fascists?

Read the links posted by MassMike and weep. This will be America from shore to shore if the tide is not held at bay and pushed back by some miraculous means.

45 posted on 09/15/2009 8:13:45 PM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: fwdude

If a state marriage amendment is in place, the only way for a gay marriages from another state to be recognized in such state is if the judiciary rules that the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the U.S. Constitution mandates that marriages from other states be recognized. The Supreme Court has historically allowed for a “policy exception” to the Full Faith and Credit Clause, and I seriously doubt that there will be 5 SCOTUS votes for the proposition that gay marriages from Massachusetts must be recognized in Idaho.


46 posted on 09/15/2009 8:19:51 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: jazusamo

I always wondered why when the Republicans had control, they didn’t repeal any of the Democrats legislation initiatives. Was there an unwritten rule or maybe a Gentleman’s agreement in force that prevented it?


47 posted on 09/15/2009 8:24:31 PM PDT by o2bfree (This president is giving me a headache!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
if someone made a documentary of what was going on in Connecticut and Mass ... and showed it to “the heartland”, people would see what the future holds if this movement is not squashed .... by the time people see the seriousness, it is often too late.

Several great documentaries exposing this homosexualization of children have been made, but before being aired, well-funded homo-activist groups get wind of it and barrage media station management with threats and rabid outrage. Nearly every time, the television stations relent and pull the airing of the program.

48 posted on 09/15/2009 8:28:07 PM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: AuH2ORepublican
The proposed legislation makes homosexual unions equal to marriage in the federal government's eyes. The logical implication is that this far reaching status will reach down into state laws which are so often entangled with and dependent on federal law for guidance. This is what is intended by the homophiles: the crushing of any and all state opposition of any type to same-sex "marriage." Do you think that the federal funding of many state programs, something that is pernicious but a reality nonetheless, will continue to a state that fails to comply with a federal order to honor such unions? Yes, it's a tangled web of our own making, but these are the dynamics in play.

The DOMA was intended to work hand in hand with state marriage amendments and laws, giving them strength and ultimate validity. Each part of the DOMA exists for a reason - to honor each state's sovereignty regarding moral values.

49 posted on 09/15/2009 8:44:22 PM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Given that I think it’s 13 states that have laws in place already... laws that MassResistance claims will result in children being dragged out of churches to be mutilated... I think someone would have noticed by now.

Yes, their claims *are* fantastic. I also think that the do the conservative cause much harm by making them. For that matter, I think the Homosexual Agenda’s greatest ally is the Westboro Baptist Church, for the same reason.

Fortunately for us, the other side has “Code Pink” and their ilk. Our greatest allies. Anyone even half sane will look at them, and realise that anything they’re against must have a lot going for it.


50 posted on 09/16/2009 12:03:30 AM PDT by Zoe Brain (Rocket Scientist, Naval Combat System Architect)
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