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Family fears vaccine led to girl's illness
The Wichita Eagle ^ | Sun, Sep. 13, 2009 | SUZANNE PEREZ TOBIAS

Posted on 09/13/2009 7:14:31 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

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To: Nathan Zachary

Honestly, that’s how the Christian Homeschoolers I know are looking at it.

The girls now know that sex with multiple partners can lead to cervical cancer by those commercials.

Nuff said.


21 posted on 09/13/2009 8:02:37 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Paleo Conservative
http://www.kansas.com/news/story/968761.html

print this article out and have ready in a folder to hand to anyone who suggests you get this done to your daughter = and NOW they want to give it to boys????

The insidiousness of pushing this at schools - and having these young people, who haven't the experience to be wary - and who don't want to be the only one that doesn't go with the crowd - is criminal.

At the most, a notice should be sent to the parents - NOTHING should be said to the school kids - and then only the kids whose parents want to risk it should be given these shots.

The gov’t (FDA - and DC politicians who invest in stock of these vaccines) is hooked up with the pharmaceutical co., to make money - and convincing everyone to take shots - more and more and more of them - is becoming an epidemic in itself, with us as guinea pigs. these vaccines are like Russian Roulette.

EXCEPRT: ..The CDC: “”A report issued last month raised new questions about Gardasil’s safety. The report by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control - CDC - and Prevention said the vaccine had been linked to 32 deaths and more than 700 serious or life-threatening complications, including fainting and blood clots.

At the same time, an analysis by the National Vaccine Information Center, a private vaccine safety group, found that women injected with Gardasil had triple the number of emergency room visits and up to 30 times the number of reported side effects as those given a meningitis vaccine.

“Now we know ... there are more reactions and deaths associated with Gardasil than with another vaccine given in the same age group,” said Barbara Fisher, president of the nonprofit group. “It's irresponsible not to take action.”

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We - and our children - are expendable. And you can bet that if obamacare gets through - you will have no choice...or your kids will be taken from you as bad parents - and given the shots anyway.

It seems that the politicians don't yet control the CDC - they are warning against this - and they are they are ones that say that the Swine flu is about as ‘bad’ as a cold or regular flu and that the possible side effects of the flu vaccine may not be worth taking it - and the gov’t wants people to take THREE shots this time. (Obama, when confronted with the question of why he had $50,000 invested in the company making the vaccine, he did not deny it - just said he ‘wasn't aware just when it was invested.)

The evil afoot in the country is frightening.

22 posted on 09/13/2009 8:03:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Was it the vaccine itself that caused the Lupus, or did she have a predisposition to Lupus that was set off by her immune system from getting a vaccine?

Also, the article makes it sound as if Lupus and cerebral vasculitis are 2 separate entities. Her vasculitis is probably directly related to the Lupus process.


23 posted on 09/13/2009 8:05:19 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: ElayneJ
"On Wednesday, an FDA committee recommended that the vaccine be made available to boys and men.” I don’t understand this."

neither do I. Papilloma virus is spread by contact. An infection clears up on it's own, unless they are reinfected before it does. Anyone coming into contact with this can easily spread it regardless if they were immune to the subsequent infection. And considering how sex is being promoted as an after school contact sport these days, vaccination or not, guys and girls can still spread it around, where the non-vaccinated will still develop the infection.

24 posted on 09/13/2009 8:05:30 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Paleo Conservative

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/cbsnews_investigates/main5253431.shtml

Gardasil Researcher Speaks Out
“Public Should Receive More Complete Warnings”


25 posted on 09/13/2009 8:05:47 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Born Conservative

Genital warts are more likely now than cervical cancer. So they try to scare people into getting this by using the cancer angle.


26 posted on 09/13/2009 8:08:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

http://www.judicialwatch.org/story/2008/may/judicial-watch-investigates-side-effects-hpv-vaccine

I’m not going to inject anything into my daughter with the budding reproductive system, thanks.

You’re more than welcome to take the risk with your daughter.


27 posted on 09/13/2009 8:08:17 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

You may want to reread my posts.


28 posted on 09/13/2009 8:09:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Paleo Conservative

An unbelievable tragedy based on the idea of preventing one. The fact that they had to fight and fight to find a doctor who would not blame it on stress, or worse making the victims feel crazy and not understood... I’m praying for healing and relief. So very sad. :-(


29 posted on 09/13/2009 8:11:26 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Born Conservative

I went through much the same as this girl did, although my “Lupus” turned out to be an overlap with systemic sclerosis (internal scleroderma)
These auto imune diseases are extremely hard to diagnose because the symtoms vary so widely and mimic other disease symptoms.

But, it’s becoming more and more evident that developing these kind of auto immune diseases is preceded by some kind of trauma, in my case it was surgery on my leg, but it could easily be anything that causes stress to the imune system.


30 posted on 09/13/2009 8:11:39 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DJ MacWoW

You said this

>>HPV is a virus, not and STD. One type of the virus can cause genital warts. HPV can also go away on it’s own.<<

Are you saying that this is not sexually transmitted?
Because if you are, the research is against you.


31 posted on 09/13/2009 8:12:43 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
This is rubbish. Unless there is actual proof that the injections cause any problems, this is just another case of mass hysteria.

Apparently, the CDC disagrees with you. But maybe you have more training?

Excerpt:

"A report issued last month raised new questions about Gardasil's safety. The report by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control - CDC - and Prevention said the vaccine had been linked to 32 deaths and more than 700 serious or life-threatening complications, including fainting and blood clots.

At the same time, an analysis by the National Vaccine Information Center, a private vaccine safety group, found that women injected with Gardasil had triple the number of emergency room visits and up to 30 times the number of reported side effects as those given a meningitis vaccine. "

Now we know ... there are more reactions and deaths associated with Gardasil than with another vaccine given in the same age group," said Barbara Fisher, president of the nonprofit group. "It's irresponsible not to take action."

32 posted on 09/13/2009 8:19:11 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: netmilsmom

What I said was true. Read the post that I was responding to. I was correcting a poster. Again, HPV is a sexually transmitted VIRUS. It often goes away on it’s own as per the CDC.


33 posted on 09/13/2009 8:21:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: maine-iac7

again, no direct link. Does the report actually show an actual link or is it just coincidental? Have you ever researched or done controlled studies before? Have you any science training or background? If so, you’d know that this is bull crap because if there was a direct causation, the vaccine would be pulled ASAP. I take it you don’t otherwise you’d know what I know.


34 posted on 09/13/2009 8:23:10 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Sorry to hear about your Scleroderma.

I’m very familiar with autoimmune diseases, as I work in a clinic that once had a Pediatric Rheumatologist. He had a handful of scleroderma patients, one of whom had Pansclerotic Morphea (a local scleroderma that affects the skin; there are only 30 some cases in the entire medical literature; extremely rare).

I’m not gung ho either way on this vaccine. Like any foreign substance we put in our body, there is a potential for adverse reaction, whether it be something as simple as eating peanuts and going into an anaphylactic reaction, taking an antibiotic and developing Stevens-Johnson Syndrome, or getting a vaccine and having a major adverse reaction. Many people believe that if the FDA clears something, that it is without risk. NOTHING is without risk. It’s all risk vs. benefit.

Given that there are SO many variables here, there may be something occurring from the vaccine that wasn’t picked up in the clinical trials.


35 posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:12 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"HPV is a sexually transmitted VIRUS. It often goes away on it’s own as per the CDC."

Still an STD, as most are viruses anyways. And yes, HPV does clear up on it's own. But repeated exposures causes changes to the cell structures of the cervix tissue, which can turn cancerous if not treated.

36 posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:23 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ElayneJ
I don’t understand this

Money, pure and simple

37 posted on 09/13/2009 8:25:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I used to counter anti-vaccine internet hysteria with facts and logic. But it's like trying to empty the Pacific ocean with a bucket. So I give up.

I'm ready to join the internet anti-vaccine zealots now.

Don't ever get any vaccine for any reason. Vaccines will kill you dead within five minutes of the shot. If you have been vaccinated for anything at any time in your life, cut off your arm to save yourself. In fact, if you even think about getting a vaccine for anything, you will get GBS instantly. No vaccine will protect you from any disease. Vaccines are a massive conspiracy designed by big pharm to take all of your money and kill you.

This is fun. I like being an anti-vaccine zealot.
38 posted on 09/13/2009 8:27:07 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: kara37
the ‘pharmas’ not only have powerful lobbyist in DC but there's a swinging door between the FDA and DC politicians.

It appears that many have a heads up about a new vaccine before it hits the market - and invest heavily while stock is new - and reap the benefits. They have a vested interest in pushing the vaccines - making more and more of them mandatory - kids now get a veritable soup of vaccines.

I appears the CDC is not yet corrupted - they warn against this and are ‘leery’ of the swine flu vaccine

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu

and the people who MAKE the vaccine aren't going to take it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0

Follow the money

39 posted on 09/13/2009 8:37:31 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Nathan Zachary

STD’s are usually viewed as a disease that needs medical treatment. Since HPV is more like a common cold, I don’t believe that it’s viewed the same as “the french disease” or the “clap”. I think only genital warts that are caused by a strain of HPV is the same. I don’t see the virus as being a disease itself but that it may cause one. I understand if others view it differently.


40 posted on 09/13/2009 8:38:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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