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Why Can't She Walk to School? (Only 13% of kids walk to school in 2009)
New York Times ^ | September 13, 2009 | Jan Hoffman

Posted on 09/14/2009 7:40:44 AM PDT by Arec Barrwin

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To: brytlea

I substitute for elementary school, and haven’t seen any fearful children.

Just because my children don’t walk to school doesn’t mean I go around constantly lecturing them about all the dangers in life.

Of course, my elementary and middle school children would have to travel and cross main traffic-ridden roads. My son does walk a half mile to high school.


201 posted on 09/14/2009 10:52:52 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: Jewbacca
Sorry, it’s not safe anymore.

I don't know about that. I'm of the opinion that there were just as many pervs back in the sixties and seventies (when I grew up) as there are now. The difference is that nowadays kids have been better educated about reporting it. It's kinda like all the female teachers being involved with their underage students. It was going on back then too, but when it happened, the teacher was quietly relocated to another school.

202 posted on 09/14/2009 10:52:58 AM PDT by acad1228 (Palin / Watts in 2012!!!)
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To: bvw

I.n.Y.o.u.r.D.r.e.a.m.s.


203 posted on 09/14/2009 10:56:18 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: acad1228

I also believe the fear is overblown. My daughter walked or rode a bike for several years until high school (too far to walk), mostly with a group.


204 posted on 09/14/2009 10:56:24 AM PDT by sand lake bar (Take that thing off your head and act like an American!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

It’s a start. And, FWIW I’m sure you’re a good parent.


205 posted on 09/14/2009 11:00:34 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Gabz
I live in a different part of VA than SoftballMom and the only places you will find sidewalks in this entire county is in some of the incorporated towns. Because we are so rural most of the roads don't even have shoulders.

You make an important point. Most suburbs built since the 60's are not pedestrian friendly, with isolated subdivions separated by miles of space, connected by winding rural roads. I know this describes the suburbs I grew up in in Maryland and Georgia. The town in Michigan in which my wife grew up was very different, with wide, straight boulevards, on a grid, with wide shoulders (for snow plowing, I guess), with schools located within residential areas. She would walk to school passing nothing but other houses along the way. In the suburbs, as opposed to older town and cities, very few people even live close enough to the school to raise the question of walking.

I think simple pedestrian safety/distance has as much to do with it as fear of "the other."

In my wife's hometown, I would be much more comfortable letting my kids walk to school. Where I am now, in N GA, where the road to the new local elementary school is an old indian trail, winding, hilly, with no shoulder (in fact pretty deep ravines on each side in some spots), no kids walk there.

206 posted on 09/14/2009 11:02:36 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: brytlea
So, not letting your child walk to school has nothing to do with sidewalks?

Actually, that is a main reason I wouldn't let her walk to school. The other being school is about 3 miles away. Even with sidewalks, I think that is a bit too far to walk.

207 posted on 09/14/2009 11:07:41 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort)
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To: Tax-chick
In the subdivision, one can walk all around safely, but trying to get the last 100 yards to the school is a nightmare. People go roaring along in their SUVs talking on the cellphone, like they’re in their own private universe.

This is probably true of thousands of subdivisions across the country. They get built just off main roads, and they put a school in between them to serve all the subdivisions -- tada, big roads kids have to cross to get to school. This problem is compounded in my town where pedestrian considerations are the worst I've ever seen, both from the city's point of view (not many crosswalks in town) and the drivers who ignore the few crosswalks that exist.

Did you know that in Germany you can pretty much forget driving ever again if you hit a kid on a crosswalk? And that's not even one with a red light, just the zebra stripes across the road. There was a hit and run on one where a girl died and it was national news, with a national manhunt.

208 posted on 09/14/2009 11:33:41 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: George from New England
When you can walk up hill in both directions you know that you are living in an Escher drawing.


209 posted on 09/14/2009 11:38:55 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Arec Barrwin
Sadly it's not safe. We used to hold onto the side rails of old farmers trucks, hop freight trains or walk the five miles...but I'm a bit younger so it was uphill only 100% there and 75% back.

Plus we could stop, pick berries, cherries, oranges, avocados, get pies from Mrs so and so, chickens and worked sometimes helping farmer John irrigate or prune, or clean out the barn for free stable fees....life in school was a trade and hard work. We could care less about the walk. People who rode the buses were considered "wimps" and received no benefits of meeting and getting to know neighbors personal for miles around

True, it's more dangerous and that is absoloutely a sad tragedy. After walking or gettting home, I had brothers and sisters to care for, cook the meal or help one of my sisters, go to my job until 1700( 5:00pm unless there was extra work, went to clubs, went surfing for 3-4 hours than did homework and PARTIED on Friday only to work on the weekends....and this was only the 60's and part of the early 70's!

Do I have sympathy, empathy of care about the "wimps." No. As my peers in the military used to so faithfully remind me when some pooor sap complained about latrine duty or eating out of a c-rat( just new to MRE's at the time),"XIN LOI jerkwad...DEAL WITH IT!"

And don't get me started about the parents that would spoil the dickens out of their kids buying then new cars and their insurance....I understand they wanted the best for their children but I saw way to many accidents and irresponsible behavior...by the time these kids( not all) hit college, they's get divorced for their first love, develop a drug problem and just never understoood the concept of when some of us " poor mentally retarded bum punk a^^ kids that walked, networked and helped each other...it WASN'T community organizing...the community was organized around those that worked, the kids and teens that helped gramp and grandma Jones prime the pump and fix their tractor when they couldn't anymore, painted thier home, fixed the barn and stables, groomed their horses fed their stock, weeded and harvested the gardens, cleaned their homes and fixed their meals they way we remembered them one day years ago from cleaning our diapers, and teaching us valuable lessons throught life.

We held their hands until death NEVER thinking we'd get a penny...it was just something we were taught and learned. We were friends, neighbors and we knew, you give, you get. thus endeth my lecture on the days when life was just life. It was hard, but it was harder before and we had it real easy comparatively than most.

God bless ya'll and God please do not forget all the good people that still love, pray, selflessly care for each other and always put God, Family and country first.

210 posted on 09/14/2009 11:53:03 AM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: Karliner

Just an addendum to my lengthly,”book.” Now days....we’d have to find a ride for our daughter. The areas she’d have to walk through were dangerous. We had to work in the city and the amount of crimes does NOT it any MSM statistics nor any newspapers. The amount of violence, stealing, rapes, abductions and petty crime, more drugs is terrrible. gads, i wish I had the money then to find a rural area to live and work like when I grew up...wish I had the $$ now but ...eh, life has changed for children and sadly I think this stresses parents and the child horribly. Soon there will be srious breaking points....I hope I’m wrong but Jesus said so, so I believe it( Mt Ch 24).


211 posted on 09/14/2009 12:03:19 PM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I believe that in most states students have to meet one of two criteria for school bus transport. One is distance, but the other is a walkable route defined as safe, with a definition including things like presence of sidewalks for the entire route, and obviously, legal places for pedestrians to cross streets. If you live 100 yards from school and your home is on one side of an interstate highway and your school is on the other side, distance isn’t really relevant.


212 posted on 09/14/2009 12:30:09 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Gene Eric
A police report was filed but nothing ever came of it as far as I was told.

Except that a few days later you saw your dad cleaning his shotgun, and you knew he hadn't gone hunting or to the range recently.

Parents like to keep the nasty details from the kids. :)

213 posted on 09/14/2009 12:35:22 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: dfwgator

dfwgator, I’m in Carrollton. Where are you?


214 posted on 09/14/2009 12:54:39 PM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: SoftballMominVA

I can top thqat - I have student whose house BORDERS the property line of the school. Yes, a bus stops to pick him up

You win.

A liability conscious world is a less free world.

Kill the lawyers.


215 posted on 09/14/2009 1:07:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Angry about where our country is going with the current regime at the helm.)
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To: brytlea

Sounds like a mom in a relationship with a drug dealer or some other creep. One major way to save children’s lives would be for their mothers to stop hooking up with scum.


216 posted on 09/14/2009 1:20:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is our duty: to zot their sorry arses into the next time zone." ~ Admin Mod)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
There may have been child bullies, but there weren’t adult perverts waiting to rape, torture, and kill you.

Sure there were. I was a little kid in the 80s.

I think it all started to change in the 80s. That’s when pornography started to go mainstream.

That's a pretty specific cause / effect scenario that would be difficult to prove.

I'd say that the heightened parental awareness of child abductions (such as milk carton photos, etc.) led to less kids walking to school. Probably more so than actual abductions, but I don't have the numbers in front of me, so that's just a guess.
217 posted on 09/14/2009 1:23:40 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Gabz

Well, that is too far, and I would be very nervous without sidewalks, of course, depending on the traffic etc. I think parents have to do what they’re comfortable with, but I don’t think someone is a bad parent because they do let them walk, and I see positive things from it.


218 posted on 09/14/2009 1:37:16 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Karliner

Your tagline is hysterical!


219 posted on 09/14/2009 1:39:32 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Tax-chick

Actually, they think it was a random abduction for $$. They had another woman abducted and forced to withdraw money from her ATM at the same mall. I haven’t heard anything recent about the case tho.
http://www.wptv.com/content/news/topstories/story/Boca-Raton-mall-murder-task-force-disbanded/ERzOb1w-JUW3GZyO7J__Ww.cspx


220 posted on 09/14/2009 1:43:36 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: mysterio

I kind of think the Adam Walsh abduction/murder was when a lot of people started being concerned about child abductions. Certainly he wasn’t the first, but it’s the first one I recall making big national news over a long period of time. I do recall it making me more vigilant when I had my kids at the store, because it brought home the fact that there WERE crazies out there who would take children.


221 posted on 09/14/2009 1:46:30 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

You can thank Dwight David Eisenhower for that one!


222 posted on 09/14/2009 4:45:54 PM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Why Can't She Walk to School? (Only 13% of kids walk to school in 2009)

ANSWER: The druggies, like the sex perverts can only perpetuate an ever increasing demand for their filth by molesting the minds and bodies of the young ones.

Trouble is, many public schools now come complete with druggies and sex perverts on the staff and in the student body.

223 posted on 09/14/2009 4:59:48 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Karliner

I’ll thank him next time I see him!


224 posted on 09/14/2009 5:32:16 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

So then, I guess you might as well let them walk to school since they are going to get molested either way....


225 posted on 09/14/2009 5:34:48 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Karliner

Good Idea. Follow me, I’m in the Lord’s Army...we never lose!


226 posted on 09/14/2009 9:47:07 PM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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To: dfwgator
And we ate dirt, and we were thankful for the dirt.

Didn't your mama ever teach you not to brag?

227 posted on 09/14/2009 9:53:57 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Would you buy a used car from this man?)
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