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Manatee touts forum, gun buyback to fight violence
Bradenton Hearld ^ | 10 SEP 2009 | ROBERT NAPPER

Posted on 09/14/2009 11:53:53 AM PDT by greatdefender

MANATEE — County officials are holding a gun buyback and community forum on violence in light of the second fatal teen shooting in a month.

“You never know what guns you’re going to get,” said Manatee County Sheriff Brad Steube when asked about the gun buyback. “You never know if you’re going to get guns that are kept off the street.”

Authorities still haven’t found where 18-year-old Daniel Williams allegedly discarded a gun authorities say he used to shoot a Bayshore High School cheerleader.

Detectives say Williams fired into a car full of cheerleaders, hitting and killing 17-year-old Jasmine Thompson on Friday night after a high school football game. Williams gave detectives a general idea of where the gun was.

The sheriff’s office had a gun buyback a couple of months ago, and 77 guns were turned in for cash.

The buyback allows gun owners to trade in guns with no ID needed or questions asked. Participants will receive $50 for revolvers and $100 for rifles or shotguns.

The gun buyback will be held from 4 to 7 p.m. Saturday, Sept. 19, at the Manatee County Sheriff’s Office, 600 301 Blvd. W., Bradenton.

Before the buyback, community leaders will have a forum on how to curtail violence in hopes of coming up with a blueprint to address the issue.

“I can only hope that these discussions we’re having lead to less violence in the community,” Steube said.

The forum is from 12:30 to 3 p.m. Sept. 19 at Johnson Middle School, 2121 26th Ave. E., Bradenton.

In the meantime, authorities continue to investigate Thompson’s death.

Sheriff’s reports say just before 11 p.m., Friday, Williams walked up to a car holding Thompson, in the area of 37th Avenue East and 11th Street Court East, outside Southeast High School, and made a comment of a sexual nature to the four girls in the car.

When the driver of the car drove off, witnesses say Williams fired four shots at the vehicle, with one of the bullets hitting Thompson in the head. Williams, a former Horizons alternative school student, has been arrested on a charge of second-degree murder in the shooting. A motive for why Williams opened fire is unknown and may never be know, Manatee County Sheriff’s Office Public Information Officer Dave Bristow said.

“We don’t know. I don’t think we are ever going to have a clear motive,” Bristow said.

Detectives have several witnesses to the shooting and Williams has also made statements to investigators, but the hope is still to recover the gun.

“We would like to have it,” said Bristow. “He has given us locations around the area but we haven’t found anything.”

Bristow declined to discuss the nature of statements Williams has given to detectives, or whether he confessed to the shooting.

“He has been somewhat cooperative, but we aren’t going to go into what he told us,” said Bristow.

Thompson is the second teenager shot in a month with ties to Bayshore High School. In August, authorities say former Southeast High School student Byron Galloway opened fire on 18-year-old recent Bayshore graduate DeJuan Williams in his backyard. Sheriff’s reports say Williams had been searching for boys who had been in his house with his sister without his parents’ permission.

In Galloway’s case, detectives recovered the gun detectives say he used, but have been unsuccessful in finding how the teen got the gun. It is unclear if Williams obtained his firearm legally because it is legal for gun owners to sell firearms to person’s 18 or older. Without concealed weapon’s permit, however, Williams would have been in violation of state law by carrying the gun.

On Tuesday, dozens of public officials gathered to condemn both killings, and gun violence in general, pleading for parents and students to report anyone with weapons.

Professor James Wright, a University of Central Florida sociologist who has studied guns and gun violence, said when kids end up with guns it is usually a weapon obtained from a home, not through illicit street level sales.

“Guns coming from the home are a much bigger source for kids to get guns than stereotype of the creepy guy in the trench coat selling them guns from his trunk,” Wright said. “Kids often takes guns from their homes, and they are passed around and passed around until it is hard to tell where they end up.”

Wright also said the majority guns that do end up on the street for illegal sale come from burglaries from residences.

“For someone committing a burglary, guns are about the best thing they can find. They are portable, in demand and keep their value,” Wright said. “Unlike something like jewelry which have some value but little on the street, a gun worth $300 in a store is worth $300 on the street.”

Meanwhile, Thompson’s cheerleading teammates continue to mourn the loss of their friend, and raise money for her family. On Wednesday, members of the Bayshore cheerleading squad gathered donations at the Mexicali Border Cafe restaurant.

“She was such a good person,” said team captain Kristi Drobecker. “We are so upset this happened. It is shocking for all of us.”

The team is expected to be on hand at a memorial for Thompson at the Bayshore football field Thursday, and Drobecker said at future games an easel with a large picture of their teammate will remain at the center of the squad as they perform their routines around it.

“She was the type of person that loved being the center of attention. So we are going to do that for her,” said Drobecker.

The memorial for Thompson on Thursday will be at Bayshore High School, 5401 34th St. W., at 4:30 p.m., school officials said.

Beth Burger, criminal justice reporter, contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; fail; gunbuyback; gunviolence

1 posted on 09/14/2009 11:53:53 AM PDT by greatdefender
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To: greatdefender

And there’s no telling how many wonderful old guns get turned in by little old ladies, only to be unceremoniously shredded or melted down. It’s a travesty.


2 posted on 09/14/2009 11:56:02 AM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: greatdefender
Participants will receive $50 for revolvers and $100 for rifles or shotguns.

No telling how many dealers are a block or two away offering $55 for revolvers and $105 for rifles or shotguns.

3 posted on 09/14/2009 11:58:00 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: greatdefender
“You never know what guns you’re going to get,” said Manatee County Sheriff Brad Steube when asked about the gun buyback. “You never know if you’re going to get guns that are kept off the street.”

One thing is for sure, idiot, you WON'T be getting those guns that thugs use, off the streets.

You WILL be getting fine firearms owned by poor widows who need money and don't realize what their husbands actually left them, and pieces of crap nobody in their right mind would use, and maybe the kinds of guns thugs have damaged in the line of “duty” so they can't use them anymore.

The morons who come up with criminally fraudulent ideas like this should read that fairy tale about “belling the cat”.

Because they think just like the mice in that fairy tale.

4 posted on 09/14/2009 11:58:05 AM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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Participants will receive $50 for revolvers and $100 for rifles or shotguns.

What about pistols?

5 posted on 09/14/2009 11:59:02 AM PDT by PrinterEagle
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To: SandWMan
“You never know if you’re going to get guns that are kept off the street.”

Here's a novel idea: how about getting the criminals kept off the street?

6 posted on 09/14/2009 11:59:20 AM PDT by kromike
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To: greatdefender

7 posted on 09/14/2009 11:59:54 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 236 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: NautiNurse

The kind of people who trade guns in in these bogus shams know little or nothing about them, or they turn in garbage nobody would use which isn’t worth the tax dollars paid for them.

Its a scam - ALL the way around.


8 posted on 09/14/2009 12:00:21 PM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: greatdefender
The term "buyback" implies that government owns all guns and is buying back some of them they sold.

Does Manatee county have a federal firearms license?

9 posted on 09/14/2009 12:00:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: greatdefender

I wonder how many valuable guns are turned in by idiots for a few bucks. The cities that hold these stupid buy-backs are missing a chance to sell the guns to dealers for money. I suspect most of the good stuff goes into some cop’s pocket anyway.


10 posted on 09/14/2009 12:00:52 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maybe they should have a testacle buy-back program to fight rape.


11 posted on 09/14/2009 12:01:07 PM PDT by ZULU (God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: greatdefender

I read the headline and wondered if the story would feature an enormous aquatic mammal saying “Increase the peace, yo.”


12 posted on 09/14/2009 12:03:40 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: greatdefender

I’m sure those criminals and gang bangers are lining up to give their weapons in


13 posted on 09/14/2009 12:05:07 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: greatdefender

It is odd that the gentle giant of the deep wants guns.


14 posted on 09/14/2009 12:06:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Put butter on your tag line.)
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To: greatdefender

Forum shmorum.... and gun buy-backs are a dime a dozen.

The REAL news as far as I am concerned is the talking Manatee!


15 posted on 09/14/2009 12:08:11 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Private RKBA & Florida FReepers combo-ping. This is just north of my locale. The good folks in Newtown shoot themselves up quite a bit.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

Florida Freeper


16 posted on 09/14/2009 12:12:03 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: SandWMan

when my mother died, my f***ing sister and my f***ing cousin wanted to give her guns to the police - what a pair of a$$holes. I told them not to do that.


17 posted on 09/14/2009 12:12:26 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: SandWMan

I would show up and give twice that for any of the nicer guns.


18 posted on 09/14/2009 12:14:24 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth. Socialism is the equal distribution of misery.)
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To: SandWMan

I can’t believe that there isn’t a police bazaar before they melt them down for any really nice guns that want to end up in a officers collection.


19 posted on 09/14/2009 12:15:03 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: greatdefender
“You never know what guns you’re going to get,” said Manatee County Sheriff Brad Steube when asked about the gun buyback. “You never know if you’re going to get guns that are kept off the street.”

What the hell does that mean?

20 posted on 09/14/2009 12:15:40 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: greatdefender
manatee is like the roughest sections of dade without the class.

geographically lovely, however, what with the Manatee river and all.

21 posted on 09/14/2009 12:15:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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To: null and void
One silly manatee post deserves another.
22 posted on 09/14/2009 12:16:21 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: NautiNurse

Funny you should mention that. I have always wanted to set up a table a few yards away from one of those ridiculous “buy-backs” and offer $5 to $10 more than the cops are offering.

I once saw video on the news of a guy standing in line at a DC gun “buy-back” holding a new-looking Armalite AR15, for which he was going to collect the princely sum of $100.

Another woman bragged on camera about getting $50 for her dead father’s “...old revolver, which always scared me as long as it was in the house, but I just never knew what to do with it”. The “old revolver” turned out to be a ‘60s vintage nickel-finish Colt Python .357 magnum.

It never ceases to amaze me ho stupid some sheeple are.


23 posted on 09/14/2009 12:17:58 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: greatdefender

“Manatee touts forum, gun buyback to fight violence”

Hmmmmmm... Manatees. It all makes sense now...

Cartman is introduced to the “Family Guy” writing staff, who turn out to be a group of manatees. The aquatic mammals, who live in a large tank, pick up “idea balls” from a large pile of them, each of which has a different noun, a verb or a pop-culture reference written on it, and deliver them, five at a time, to a machine that then forms a Family Guy cutaway gag based on those ideas. For example, “Laundry” + “Date” + “Winning” + “Mexico” + “Gary Coleman” becomes a clip of Lois asking Peter to do the laundry, after which Peter recalls winning a date in Mexico with Gary Coleman.


24 posted on 09/14/2009 12:18:08 PM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Bob McDonnell for (Virginia) Governor - 2009)
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To: greatdefender

Humm.. That Gun Buy Back aside, that’s (Bayshore H.S.) where graduated from High School back in ‘81. It’s right across the street from Nick Bolitary tennis academy. Looks like the old neighborhood’s done down hill!


25 posted on 09/14/2009 12:19:02 PM PDT by Craigon
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To: Abathar

I have always thought the same thing.

I wonder how many cops have enhanced the quality of their personal firearms collections at public expense.


26 posted on 09/14/2009 12:21:52 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: from occupied ga
Have you been taking grammar lessons from Virginia gubernatorial candidate Bob McDonnell?
27 posted on 09/14/2009 12:24:39 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

“I wonder how many cops have enhanced the quality of their personal firearms collections at public expense.”

Better than melting them down and letting them go to waste.


28 posted on 09/14/2009 12:26:56 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: greatdefender

Another nice lib “feelgood” program with zero effect on crime. Typical. The only winners here are the thugs who turn in crap for $100!


29 posted on 09/14/2009 12:38:17 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: greatdefender

I registered at the Bradenton Herald site and left a half dozen comments in response to other posters. Go check them out. I used my FR name, too.


30 posted on 09/14/2009 12:53:00 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The term "buyback" implies that government owns all guns and is buying back some of them they sold.

Does Manatee county have a federal firearms license?

I've been asking this question for years! If they don't have a license why are these "buybacks" not illegal? And why is the Brady bunch not demanding that these sales be run through the "federal system" to "catch guns that have been used in crimes".

31 posted on 09/14/2009 1:32:43 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Joe Brower

Wow! I can get $50 EACH for my Raptor and Hubby’s Raptor II? I’ll get right on that, you betcha.


32 posted on 09/14/2009 1:56:52 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: greatdefender
Wonder if you couldn't take the latest copy of Gun Digest price book, set up a table outside of the event, and give the 'unsuspecting widow' the information they would need to make a more intelligent decision?

Not to mention wee-wee up the local idiot sheriff.

33 posted on 09/14/2009 2:33:22 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: WayneS
Of course the program is feel good tax-funded eyewash.

The comments about LOL (little old ladies) bringing in their dead husband's weapons are especially true in Manatee County. Law enforcement is specifically targeting households with guns because they may be burglarized and guns are the prized loot, followed by kids taking their parents weapons.

So, instead of getting rid of the bad guys who burglarize homes, taxpayer funds are used to make a few folks feel good.

I think it's a great idea to set up a table just outside the buyback driveway to look for bargains and collector's items.

34 posted on 09/14/2009 2:47:50 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama: A day without TOTUS is like a day without sunshine)
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To: greatdefender

Somebody had to

35 posted on 09/14/2009 5:33:49 PM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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To: wastedyears

This manatee looks sad that the cops are so stupid.


36 posted on 09/14/2009 6:42:59 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

You do not need an FFL to buy firearms; only to sell them in quantity.


37 posted on 09/15/2009 5:01:00 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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