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CPT Connie Rhodes Case update
Phone conversation | 14 Sep 09 | me

Posted on 09/14/2009 12:17:10 PM PDT by roaddog727

I just received a call from CPT Connie Rhodes good friend with whom I have been in contact over the past several weeks

He indicated that Judge Land (Federal District Judge, Middle District of Georgia) will provide a Ruling on CPT Rhodes' TRO as well as The Defense's motion to Dismiss.

Pray for Judge Land and CPT Rhodes.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; connierhodes; dualer; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orlytaitz; rhodes
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1 posted on 09/14/2009 12:17:10 PM PDT by roaddog727
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To: STARWISE

Ping


2 posted on 09/14/2009 12:20:05 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Thanks for the update.


3 posted on 09/14/2009 12:20:07 PM PDT by Hang'emAll
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To: Hang'emAll

I’ll provide them as I get them.

Thanks.


4 posted on 09/14/2009 12:20:56 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

The case is going forward despite Capt. Rhodes denied leave of absence?


5 posted on 09/14/2009 12:21:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: roaddog727

Appreciate the updates, Sir.


6 posted on 09/14/2009 12:22:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: roaddog727

NTW, what would you have liked to have seen if your case had gone to discovery?


7 posted on 09/14/2009 12:22:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Red Steel

She was denied leave for Friday, 11 Sep. When Judge Land found out about that nonsence, he issued orders for her to appear today and that the Army could not prevent her from attending.


8 posted on 09/14/2009 12:26:44 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: MHGinTN

All that I wanted to see was definitive documentation that Obama either is or is not a Natural Born Citizen (NBC) - defined as: both parents US Citizens and him being born on US controlled territory.


9 posted on 09/14/2009 12:29:20 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Cool, good to hear. That’s what I would have done. Thanks for the update.


10 posted on 09/14/2009 12:32:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Happy to.

It’s a subject that’s kinda near and dear to my heart.........


11 posted on 09/14/2009 12:43:06 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727
All that I wanted to see was definitive documentation that Obama either is or is not a Natural Born Citizen (NBC) - defined as: both parents US Citizens and him being born on US controlled territory.

It's obvious he has gone to great length to hide something and I don't think it takes anyone very bright to come to that conclusion. Now the question is does anyone have the guts to force the issue... One would think that the powerful forces behind the scenes would have come to the realization of what zero and his minions have in mind....and do something about it...but in this day and age of gutless wonders in congress...one has to be realistic and lean toward the cover up continuing.

12 posted on 09/14/2009 12:47:04 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: roaddog727; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK

Thanks for the feedback.

How are you and your family doing?


13 posted on 09/14/2009 12:51:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: roaddog727

Your source happen to say WHEN?


14 posted on 09/14/2009 1:01:47 PM PDT by dubie (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: roaddog727

I’m really concerned about CPT Rhodes receiving derogulatory OERs or some form of general officer reprimand.

I’m wondering if this judge will punt this case like they did yours and throw CPT Rhodes to the wolves. I think the questions raised are valid and it is in the best interests of the country to answer them. Her deployment should be put on hold and her case should be heard.

I’m not optimistic it will be though. Certainly the judge will rule quickly?


15 posted on 09/14/2009 1:03:40 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Grampa Dave

Putting one foot in front of the other.

But we are in good spirits.

Thanks. That means alot.


16 posted on 09/14/2009 1:03:52 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

“..but in this day and age of gutless wonders in congress..”

That’s kinda why I gave a brief talk at our convention this past weekend about ethics and moral courage.

Essentially it was this:

A deliberate choice between doing what’s easy and doing what’s right.


17 posted on 09/14/2009 1:06:16 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: dubie

“Your source happen to say WHEN?”

I’ll get a more detailed outbrief later this afternoon/evening.

When it comes to Judges, “WHEN” could be anytime......


18 posted on 09/14/2009 1:08:31 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: dubie

Your source happen to say WHEN?


According to this news article, the Court will rule by noon tomorrow
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/breaking_news/story/839473.html


19 posted on 09/14/2009 1:11:00 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: Sola Veritas

As to OER - she had a change of rater OER a few months ago. As to a new OER, who can tell.

Actually, in my case, My OER was due a week after I filed. (not particularly good timing) but I still received a very fair writeup. However, instead of getting top blocks from both rater and Sr. Rater, I got center of mass.

As to moving forward or getting thrown out - it’s anybody’s guess at this point. I’m hoping and praying. I know - hope is not a plan, but it’s the best we have right now.

He should hand down his ruling on Wednesday


20 posted on 09/14/2009 1:14:06 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Could you ping me on any other updates, please?

Can’t wait! Fingers crossed.


21 posted on 09/14/2009 1:17:57 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank

Will do.


22 posted on 09/14/2009 1:18:51 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

God Bless you and your family.


23 posted on 09/14/2009 1:39:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Grampa Dave

And may God bless you and yours as well.

Thanks.


24 posted on 09/14/2009 2:12:15 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Do you have enough time before MRD so that you will come into the zone for LTC and still have 3 years to serve if selected? If not, then like myself, getting center of mass is OK. I will hit MRD before I come into the zone for USAR LTC consideration. I will actually encourage senior raters to give me center of mass so they can use the above for those that have time enough left to promote. You know they have limits on above mass percentages.

Now if you will come into the LTC board zone soon, having a center of mass rating could hurt...especially for LTC in the USAR where it starts getting competetive. The big thing will be your having at least completed ILE(CGSC) and other mil and civilian education. Also, the types of assignments you have held makes a difference. Have you had Battalion XO or S-3 time...etc. I think boards tend to view DIMAs as lesser forms of USAR existence (I’m a DIMA also).

The CPT though is in a more precarious position. Should she decide she wants to stay in the regular army, she could be hurt when she comes up for MAJ. However, she may have no intention of staying in, so this may not be a fear for her. What I’m more concerned about is them charging her with conduct unbecoming an officer because she said derogulatory things about a POTUS. That would be an “atom bomb” approach, but it could be used if the current POTUS decides he is tired of dealing with this issue and pressures the SECDEF and SECARMY to push prosecution. Especially, if the judge does not grant her an injunction. Because she bravely challenged a sitting POTUS....she could be made an example of. I hope this does not occur. Do you think it could?


25 posted on 09/14/2009 4:14:28 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

I go before the LTC board this/next week and have 8 years to MRD, so no worries on getting in enough time in grade if promoted. However, the big question for me is whether or not my packet will be reviewed “honestly” or have one of those secret “Red Flags” assigned to it.

I’m already in an O5 duty position - have been for the past 4 years (2 in my current position {Team Chief} and 2 in my prior duty position, so I really can’t see how a certer of mass could knock me out of the running. And Yes, I’m a DIMA also.

Asto the CPT: she was stop-lossed, and really does not want to make a career out of the Army.

I also can not see them charging her with conduct unbecomming as she is just seeking a clarification in chain of command and lawful orders. OTOH, the wording in the complaint is a bit harsh that way. We’ll see soon enough.


26 posted on 09/14/2009 4:25:31 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Sibre Fan

It looks like the judge was harsh and wanted to criticize Taitz or humiliate her. It doesnt look good because the Judge doesnt seem to want to touch the Birth Certificate issue and grant Taitz authority to verify its Authentic. The Judge needs to grant Taitz discovery in order to do this. I think the judge will rule in the governments favor and I dont like that.


27 posted on 09/14/2009 4:26:25 PM PDT by U.S. Army Retired
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To: roaddog727

I am praying for all of you, roaddog.


28 posted on 09/14/2009 4:32:00 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: roaddog727

“A deliberate choice between doing what’s easy and doing what’s right.”

I think you might be channeling the spirit of my Navy dad. :)


29 posted on 09/14/2009 4:35:48 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

All spirits are welcome.

Thanks.


30 posted on 09/14/2009 4:38:51 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: U.S. Army Retired

I think that it is very possible that we heard only “one side” of the hearing and heard that one side from a slanted perspective.

In other words, what we know about what happened at the hearing is only as good as what has been reported by a single reporter.

It will be very helpful to get a fuller description of the hearing from others who attended.


31 posted on 09/14/2009 4:38:58 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: U.S. Army Retired

This is to roaddog, too:

You know, we got that report on the hearing from one source and the media is known to omit unhappy details for Obama.

I would want to hear from the other side before assuming I know what happened and what the Judge thinks.

I wonder if we have Orly’s side of what when on the hearing. According to the news source only Orly spoke and the judge only spoke to Orly. I would guess he was talking with Obama’s lawyers, too. I want to know that part of the hearing.


32 posted on 09/14/2009 4:43:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

According to the news source only Orly spoke and the judge only spoke to Orly. I would guess he was talking with Obama’s lawyers, too. I want to know that part of the hearing.


Agreed!


33 posted on 09/14/2009 4:59:42 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: roaddog727

Thanks for the update.


34 posted on 09/14/2009 5:02:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: SaraJohnson; U.S. Army Retired

Nothing further at this point.


35 posted on 09/14/2009 5:29:22 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Provide a ruling? Of course, he can hardly not provide a ruling. The immediate question is “when” and then of course “what” the ruling will be. But I suspect Judge Land will keep that close to his vest until the announcement of the rulings.


36 posted on 09/14/2009 5:34:03 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
The immediate question is “when” and then of course “what” the ruling will be.

The "when" part is by noon Wednesday. Link

37 posted on 09/14/2009 5:37:25 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: roaddog727
All that I wanted to see was definitive documentation that Obama either is or is not a Natural Born Citizen (NBC) - defined as: both parents US Citizens and him being born on US controlled territory.

Well we already know the answer to the first part... Or do we? We know the legend, but the legend is in tatters, it's timelines blown all to H#((.

It would be extreme irony if the original birth documents are supeoned and they show birth in a Hawaian, or even Washington state, hospital and the father's name is blank, or shows someone other than BHO Sr as the babydaddy.

Somehow I don't think concealing that would be worth $1M+, of money BO could have spent for other purposes, even if it is other people's money.

38 posted on 09/14/2009 5:39:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: roaddog727
Actually, in my case, My OER was due a week after I filed. (not particularly good timing) but I still received a very fair writeup. However, instead of getting top blocks from both rater and Sr. Rater, I got center of mass.

You can probably forget Lt. Col. But as a reservist, as I was, so what? We aren't/weren't in it for the money anyway.

39 posted on 09/14/2009 5:42:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

“We aren’t/weren’t in it for the money anyway.”

True.

It was to support and defend the Constitution as well as to serve honorably. That is all I have ever wanted to do.


40 posted on 09/14/2009 6:12:17 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

“I go before the LTC board this/next week and have 8 years to MRD, so no worries on getting in enough time in grade if promoted. However, the big question for me is whether or not my packet will be reviewed “honestly” or have one of those secret “Red Flags” assigned to it.”

That is one thing I don’t think they do (I may be naive). However, my experience with HRC St. Louis is that they are horrible incompetent and wouldn’t be able to intentional mess with someone’s record....that would take intelligence. Your more likely to be zapped by them not having your records straight. If your previous OERs have been good, you have a combat tou, and since you are underfilling an O-5 slot. I’d say you have a better the fair chance. The last three USAR boards for MAJ and LTC have been able to find enough “fully qualified” officers to meet their selection quotas.

IF there were going to be any “flags” on you it would be when, if you make the board’s list, they send it to SecDef for approval.

I will be watching Army Times in about 90-120 days and hope to see your name on the promotion list. Since you are already in a LTC slot, your promotion should be back dated to SecDef list approval. May God Bless and keep you. Oh....Hooaah!


41 posted on 09/14/2009 6:26:34 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Hopefull so. And actually it’s even better really - I’m one of only 15 Officers in the USAR that’s considered “Joint Qualified Officer” with the Skill Identifier 3L as recommended by SECDEF.

Well.

WE’ll see. :-)


42 posted on 09/14/2009 6:35:18 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: El Gato
It would be extreme irony if the original birth documents are supeoned and they show birth in a Hawaian, or even Washington state, hospital and the father's name is blank, or shows someone other than BHO Sr as the babydaddy.

I think that it's very unlikely that there is any vital record that shows anyone other than the senior Obama as the father.

There was no reason for Obama's mother to name anyone else on a birth document — this isn't an area that's noted for innate honesty. Very few birth documents show surprising fathers, even when it is demonstrable that cuckoldry has occurred.

43 posted on 09/14/2009 7:45:11 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: snowsislander
I think that it's very unlikely that there is any vital record that shows anyone other than the senior Obama as the father.

Generally speaking, I would agree. But we need to keep in mind that this is a "Legend". Part of the legend might be called "Out of Africa". Other parts of the legend are known to be inaccurate, maybe that part is too?

But I don't think so. BHO Sr's first wife has been quoted as saying that BHO Jr *sounds* and "acts" like BHO Sr. I tend to think that trying to bring her into forming the "legend" would be a much. Not impossible, but unlikely. It's nice Barry sounds and moves like his Daddy, since he sure doesn't look like him, other than coloration, and then only a rather pale version of BHO Senior's.

44 posted on 09/14/2009 7:57:14 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: roaddog727
It was to support and defend the Constitution as well as to serve honorably.

That's it. Plus the camaraderie.

Although I was an IMA, what you would call a DIMA (24 IDTs 12 AD days a year, min) although we did not use the term (Air Force mid 80s), we had a "training detachment", made up of intelligence types for the most part, along with a small group of technical types attached to the detachment for IDT. All of us did our AD at our unit of assignment. But even during IDT we supported the active force, and a local reserve unit too. (and they supported us with use of their facilities..A Total Force effort). .

We still get together a few times a year, for BBQ and BS. It's great.

45 posted on 09/14/2009 8:18:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: roaddog727

BTTT


46 posted on 09/14/2009 8:45:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: roaddog727
“We aren’t/weren’t in it for the money anyway.” True. It was to support and defend the Constitution as well as to serve honorably. That is all I have ever wanted to do.

We SALUTE you for your service .

47 posted on 09/14/2009 9:02:13 PM PDT by piroque
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To: roaddog727

Any update?


48 posted on 09/15/2009 8:36:12 PM PDT by Jen ("Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve standing army, enslaved press & disarmed populace.")
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To: Jen

Nothing yet of which I am aware - Judge Land is supposed to hand down a ruling sometime today.

Crossing fingers, legs, toes - knocking on wood........


49 posted on 09/16/2009 5:35:07 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Update: The Judge has denied the TRO and dismissed the case, ordering plaintiff to pay costs to defendants.

http://ia311028.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.gamd.77605/gov.uscourts.gamd.77605.13.0.pdf


50 posted on 09/16/2009 8:29:07 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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