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Your Eye Sees Trouble Before You Do (AMAZING!)
CEH ^ | September 10, 2009

Posted on 09/14/2009 12:52:15 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Sept 10, 2009 — In slapstick comedy, the fall guy gets the pie in the face when the clown in front of him ducks. It’s funny because most of us instinctively duck when we see something coming. But two recent experimental studies are revealing new automated capabilities built into the eye and brain that are quicker and more automatic than our reflexes or the brain’s visual center.

A team from the Canadian Institutes of Health, publishing in PNAS,[1] ran experiments on a subject that had damage to the visual cortex. They were surprised to learn that the subject could still avoid obstacles in the way during hand-reach experiments. Another experiment showed that the obstacle avoidance was nullified when a 2-second delay was introduced, providing “compelling evidence that these mechanisms can operate in ‘real-time’ without direct input from primary visual cortex (V1),” they said. What does this mean? The subject “was able to code the position of the obstacles despite being unaware of their presence.”

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1 posted on 09/14/2009 12:52:16 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/14/2009 12:53:11 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Your Eye Sees Trouble Before You Do...

And here I always thought that MY eyes see things at exactly the same time I see them.

3 posted on 09/14/2009 12:55:53 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: GodGunsGuts
From the article:

“This ability may have evolved to speed escape from predators.”

Sure enough!

4 posted on 09/14/2009 12:56:46 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: GodGunsGuts

Who am I to believe? Me or my lying eyes?


5 posted on 09/14/2009 12:57:50 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: GodGunsGuts
Wow. My eyes just saw a giant sausage and onion pizza crash through a window on the 67th floor of the Sears Tower.

But I haven't seen it yet.

In fact, I'm nowhere near the Sears Tower.

That really is amazing.

6 posted on 09/14/2009 12:58:45 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: humblegunner
More like this...

“This ability may have evolved to speed escape from predators.”

But not likely.

7 posted on 09/14/2009 1:00:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Allegra

It works!

It REALLY WORKS!

My eyes saw it too, and I’m in Virginia!


8 posted on 09/14/2009 1:00:31 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: GodGunsGuts

bookmark


9 posted on 09/14/2009 1:00:52 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GodGunsGuts
the eye and brain that are quicker and more automatic than our reflexes

Duh. Your eyes have to see something before your brain processes it and then it takes time for your muscles to move away from danger. More wasted $$$$.

10 posted on 09/14/2009 1:02:53 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Allegra

Racist.


11 posted on 09/14/2009 1:04:47 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: GodGunsGuts

Autonomic exceeds the cognizant. That’s not a new observation. It doesn’t take much higher thought to have developed reflexive actions. Invertebrates are just as good at avoidance.


12 posted on 09/14/2009 1:05:10 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To:

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13 posted on 09/14/2009 1:05:15 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Keep in mind that the eye is a physical extension of the brain, and that therefore, in a way, even the eyeball is brain tissue. It could be that there is some sort of low-level processing going on at the retina or optic nerve that bypasses the higher, interpretive centers of the brain for some stimuli.


14 posted on 09/14/2009 1:05:17 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: metmom

Surely I get bonus points for actually reading the article.


15 posted on 09/14/2009 1:05:32 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: GodGunsGuts

16 posted on 09/14/2009 1:07:06 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: WayneS
My eyes saw it too, and I’m in Virginia!

And it was sausage and onion, right?

I wasn't completely sure about that part. I know I saw the sausage, but wasn't positive about the onions.

I do know that it was the 67th floor, because I had time to count.

And I'm thousands of miles from there. It works!

17 posted on 09/14/2009 1:07:13 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: I see my hands
I used my magic decoder ring. What does that mean ...

7|

18 posted on 09/14/2009 1:07:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: bgill

Your eyes don’t “see” anything until the image is recognized and processed. As it turns out, scientists are discovering that that this capablity exists both in the brain, and for quicker response times, in the eye itself. I would imagine this discovery has profound implications with respect to ophthalmology, etc.


19 posted on 09/14/2009 1:08:10 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: humblegunner

I’m hot for you, baby.


20 posted on 09/14/2009 1:08:42 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra
I’m hot for you, baby.

Pshaw.

Who ain't???

21 posted on 09/14/2009 1:10:09 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Crackhead.


22 posted on 09/14/2009 1:11:22 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Allegra

Slut.


23 posted on 09/14/2009 1:13:30 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Community organizer.


24 posted on 09/14/2009 1:15:13 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Little Pig

It would certainly appear that way! Good observation :o)


25 posted on 09/14/2009 1:15:33 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I see dead people before they see me.


26 posted on 09/14/2009 1:15:55 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs & Glenn Beck- American Heroes! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: humblegunner; Allegra
Ok, you two need to get a room.

That is all.

27 posted on 09/14/2009 1:17:57 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: Allegra
Community organizer.

Ouch.

28 posted on 09/14/2009 1:18:26 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
My tennis teacher asked me "how do you do that?"

Do what?

> "Hit the ball", he said...."You close your eyes as soon as the ball is on its way to you....but you hit it every time".

I do it playing baseball, too.

29 posted on 09/14/2009 1:19:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Allegra

Woman beater.


30 posted on 09/14/2009 1:20:11 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Kitten-kicker.


31 posted on 09/14/2009 1:21:46 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Sacajaweau

Could you visualize kicking Obama out of office while you’re at it :o)


32 posted on 09/14/2009 1:21:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To:

It means you have a magic decoder ring!

33 posted on 09/14/2009 1:22:33 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Pistolshot; Allegra
Ok, you two need to get a room.

It figures she'd be on the other side of the dang planet.

Besides, I'm too busy smoking crack and organizing my community.

34 posted on 09/14/2009 1:23:05 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Pistolshot

Pssssst....we’re old friends. Haven’t seen each other in a while. ;-)


35 posted on 09/14/2009 1:23:23 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

This is related to the concepts in the book “The Inner Game Of Tennis”, where he spoke of muscle memory and training to respond without the brain.

If you’ve ever trained for a very fast sport like fencing, sabre, epee, IPSC, IDPA, or Three Gun you probably have noticed times when your body reacts before your brain gets involved.

There are loops and circuits in our nervous system that don’t involve the brain, like the patellar reflex.


36 posted on 09/14/2009 1:23:28 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Allegra

I’ll kick him again if you don’t watch it.


37 posted on 09/14/2009 1:23:45 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
Besides, I'm too busy smoking crack and organizing my community.

And kicking kittens.

38 posted on 09/14/2009 1:24:12 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Little Pig

“Keep in mind that the eye is a physical extension of the brain, and that therefore, in a way, even the eyeball is brain tissue”

I wouldn’t go that far. The eye is its own organ. However, it is part of the Nervous System, and therefore intimately related to the brain.


39 posted on 09/14/2009 1:24:37 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: DBrow

Fascinating. Apparently it’s not just muscle memory, it would appear that the eye literally directs the body to react to unfamiliar objects.


40 posted on 09/14/2009 1:26:30 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Little Pig; GodGunsGuts
Keep in mind that the eye is a physical extension of the brain, and that therefore, in a way, even the eyeball is brain tissue. It could be that there is some sort of low-level processing going on at the retina or optic nerve that bypasses the higher, interpretive centers of the brain for some stimuli.

It sounds like much the same as reflexes that cause one to react by sending the signal to the spinal cord first because the distance is shorter, allowing the individual to react before feeling the pain, thus minimizing the damage from an injury.

41 posted on 09/14/2009 1:26:54 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“’Hit the ball’, he said....’You close your eyes as soon as the ball is on its way to you....but you hit it every time’”

It’s not as if your body complete forgets what it has seen once you close your eyes. It guesses where the ball’s going to end up. Plus, you have other senses.

I’d try to keep my eyes open, anyway. You know what they say, “keep your eyes on the ball.” Gives you the greatest likelihood of contact.


42 posted on 09/14/2009 1:27:21 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Allegra

Alright, that’s it.

When Malcolm wakes up I’m kicking him again.


43 posted on 09/14/2009 1:27:53 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

He’ll bite you. Hard. He’ll sink his fangs into your ankle.


44 posted on 09/14/2009 1:29:10 PM PDT by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: GodGunsGuts

What are we to make of this? René Descartes died, didn’t he?


45 posted on 09/14/2009 1:29:51 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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“This ability may have evolved to speed escape from predators.”

As bgill points out, "Your eyes have to see something before your brain processes it and then it takes time for your muscles to move away from danger." The just-so story fails to consider the possibility that the linkage from "eye" to "muscle" predates the brain.

46 posted on 09/14/2009 1:31:40 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Little Pig

There’s always that sort of low level processing going on - it’s the only way we’re able to drive or throw and catch a ball. I like to say that we have the ability to perform amazing feats of calculus built right in.


47 posted on 09/14/2009 1:31:42 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: GodGunsGuts
Sounds good in theory, but in real life...

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48 posted on 09/14/2009 1:33:14 PM PDT by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: ichabod1

Good thing we never have to “show our work”.


49 posted on 09/14/2009 1:34:23 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: steve86

It’s still all one fuctionally integrated body working together so that our spirits can interface with the material world :o)


50 posted on 09/14/2009 1:34:28 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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