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Big-car dealer vandalized, FBI stepping in (OR)
KATU News ^ | September 14, 2009 | Jeff Jaeger

Posted on 09/14/2009 5:51:28 PM PDT by jazusamo

PORTLAND, Ore. - Vandals in Portland targeted some pretty pricey cars over night, throwing acid or paint stripper all over them. No one has claimed responsibility, and there's no telling just how many people were involved.

The damage to as many as 15 cars is expensive. Here's one, a Hummer from the besieged Vic Alfonso Cadillac Dealership in Northeast Portland. You can see a number of spots where the paint is now peeling off the car.

A sociology professor at Portland State University said there are plenty of reasons that could have motivated the vandals to do all of this damage.

"The Humvee has become sort of this symbol of our culture in general," said PSU Sociology Professor Randy Blazak. "It symbolizes conspicuous consumption, environmental degradation, it symbolizes the war."

The Portland Police Bureau has just confirmed that 15 vehicles were damaged in the vandalism. Aside from that, detectives are being pretty tight lipped about the case. However, they did confirm that agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation are helping in the investigation.

Blazak points to the option that this could be the effort of an eco-terrorism group. "The environmental groups don't typically kill anybody," said Blazak, "but they can cause millions of dollars in damages to property so they get the full attention of federal law enforcement for that reason."

The Earth Liberation Front said on its Web site that it is not claiming responsibility, but said that the act is "an evident response to the impact SUVs and Hummers have on the environment."

Police said there is a possibility that this wasn't even eco-terrorism. Anyone could have done this damage.

Big-car dealer vandalized, FBI stepping in

Damage from some type of chemical that was put on the vehicle.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: ecoterrorism; elf; hummer; oregon; radicalleft; suv; vandalism
The Earth Liberation Front eco-terrorist group may be getting active again in Oregon and Washington. Two radio towers were toppled in Everett, WA ten days ago.

2 Everett radio towers toppled

1 posted on 09/14/2009 5:51:29 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: george76

ELF? Ping!


2 posted on 09/14/2009 5:54:16 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
...they did confirm that agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation are helping in the investigation.

Would it gain the same attention from the FBI if it was not a GM (ie. government motors) dealership? If it were say, a Ford dealership owned by a staunch conservative, would the FBI be as interested?

Probably unfair questions, but they have to tickle at the back of your mind. This is just another in a long series of problems with the government buying into GM and Chrysler...

3 posted on 09/14/2009 5:54:28 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: jazusamo

The miserable young fools, probably brought up on radical ideology by parents and teachers will eventually end up in prison. Then, they will realize they only thought they hated modern society.


4 posted on 09/14/2009 5:57:56 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: ThunderSleeps

I hear what you’re saying but it’s standard procedure for the FBI to get involved in any suspected eco-terrorist act. This has been going on in WA, OR, CA, CO and other states for 15 or so years.


5 posted on 09/14/2009 5:58:49 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Jacquerie
That was exactly the case with some in the group known as "The Family" who were busted and sentenced a couple years back, the Northwest was their primary target.

Thirteen members of The Family previously sentenced.

Stanislas Gregory Meyerhoff - (5-23-07) - 13 years
Kevin Tubbs ----------------- (5-24-07) - 12 years, 7 months
Chelsea Dawn Gerlach ------- (5-25-07) - 9 years
Darren Todd Thurston---------(5-29-07) - 3 years, 1 month
Suzanne Nicole Savoie--------(5-31-07) - 4 years, 3 months
Sarah Kendall Tankersley-----(5-31-07) - 3 years, 10 months
Joyanna Lynn Zacher---------(6-01-07) - 7 years, 8 months
Nathan Fraser Block----------(6-01-07) - 7 years, 8 months
Daniel Gerard McGowan-----(6-04-07) - 7 years
Jonathan Paul--------------------(8-01-07) - 4 years, 3 months
Briana Waters-------------------(6-19-08) - 6 years
Jennifer Kolar-------------------(7-18-08) - 5 years
Lacey Phillabaum--------------(8-19-08) - 3 years

6 posted on 09/14/2009 6:03:32 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Yes - I would expect the FBI to get involved due to the circumstances. I'm just saying that with GM being part government owned, wags could now raise the question of is this the Feds looking out for their own interests.

Back when I was a COTR (contracting officer's technical representative) and DoD employee we had strict guidelines. Obviously, we couldn't play favorites when evaluating contract proposals. But going further, we had to studiously avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Government ownership in GM makes that just about impossible in cases like this, even if we trust that this is an entirely normal investigation.

7 posted on 09/14/2009 6:04:08 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: jazusamo; Pistov Elf
Pistov Elf?


8 posted on 09/14/2009 6:05:15 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: jazusamo

“”The Humvee has become sort of this symbol of our culture in general,” said PSU Sociology Professor Randy Blazak. “It symbolizes conspicuous consumption, environmental degradation, it symbolizes the war.””

Only to demented, whacked out class envy folks with a Marxist bent.


9 posted on 09/14/2009 6:05:46 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: jazusamo

Perhaps someone unsatisfied with the ‘Cash for Clunkers’ deal?


10 posted on 09/14/2009 6:07:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: jazusamo

Just imagine how mad the elf idiots would be if they couldn’t access their web site.


11 posted on 09/14/2009 6:07:32 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Maybe it’s just a bunch of people trying to get Nancy Pelosi’s approval. She’s a big fan of disruptors.

Wonder why she and Joe didn’t share a beer after Obama’s lie-fest to Congress.


12 posted on 09/14/2009 6:10:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mylife

LOL! He looks pistov.


13 posted on 09/14/2009 6:10:43 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Does that mean if I buy an Obama Motors car, and it gets stolen, it’s a Federal Offense?


14 posted on 09/14/2009 6:15:57 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama gonna take care o' me!")
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To: Jacquerie
end up in prison. Then, they will realize they only thought they hated modern society.

Number 47 said to number 3...

15 posted on 09/14/2009 6:20:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: jazusamo
FBI stepping in

I guess, now that GM is owned by the Federales, any crime against them must be a Federal offense.

ML/NJ

16 posted on 09/14/2009 6:33:16 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: jazusamo

Crazy liberals. Consider this: Those SUVs that have been vandalized will be repainted.

That entails, sanding and/or stripping the paint, refinishing, and all of the supplies and chemicals that are used in those processes.

Not to mention all of the paint fumes that will enter the air.

Mission accomplished for the enviro-whackos I guess. ;-)


17 posted on 09/14/2009 6:34:37 PM PDT by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10

You’re right on all points, especially the crazy liberal part. These ELF people are real whack jobs and the last group preferred arson, think of the damage to the environment from that. LOL!


18 posted on 09/14/2009 6:40:09 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

What’s even funnier is that the damaged vehicle pictured is the “small” Hummer, with the straight-six. It gets reasonable gas mileage, and like most modern cars, emits few pollutants that in some cities it could be said to leave the air cleaner than it found it. Had it been the H2, or the H1 (though those are rare on the ground), it might be more understandable, but going after the H3 for being an afront to nature is like criticizing small bow-rider ski boats for polluting the ocean.


19 posted on 09/14/2009 6:40:14 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Salvation

Oregon...


20 posted on 09/14/2009 6:41:29 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: jazusamo
"The Humvee has become sort of this symbol of our culture in general," said PSU Sociology Professor Randy Blazak. "It symbolizes conspicuous consumption, environmental degradation, it symbolizes the war."
BETTER CHECK HIS WHEREABOUTS, HIS STUDENTS AND ANYONE AFFILIATED WITH HIM...
21 posted on 09/14/2009 6:43:36 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Little Pig

That’s a good point. I saw some video earlier from a TV station and the damage shown on this vehicle is minor compared to others.


22 posted on 09/14/2009 6:44:01 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You’ve got that right. He has to be a flaming lib being a sociology prof from PSU.


23 posted on 09/14/2009 6:45:47 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

BTW, thanks for pinging Sal, I meant to and forgot it.


24 posted on 09/14/2009 6:47:48 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

If it were not for the fabricated fraud of Global Warming, there would be no foundation or basis of these crimes.

Consider the following:

VIDEO Joe Bastardi of Accuweather.com in debunking blame of CA fires on Global Warming, debunks GW
Accuweather.com ^ | 9/10/09 | PRO1

Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:02:57 PM by PRO 1

Joe Bastardi of Accuweather.com on Accuweather’s website and again on Bill O’Reilly’s show 9/9/09 presents irrefutable evidence which debunks claims by environmentalists that California’s wild fires were caused by Global Warming. In a few short minutes and with just a few graphics of charts and images He debunks contemporary claims of Global Warming entirely.

Certainly, many far better than myself, have refuted the false claims of Global Warming and the so called human cause of it. But for obvious reasons, those who’s attempts to do so have been thwarted by a biased agendized media, disinterested and dishonest politicians, and an ignorant distracted public.

Few of us were of the scientific background to immediately refute or take the time or expend the resources to independently research the topic entirely to where we would be fully informed. Combing the volumes of research data where deep within lay the truths that would expose the fraud has been something inaccessible to most Americans.

This is how they fooled and/or silenced most of us. Not because we were stupid but because we lacked the “at finger tip” tools to refute the liars as they told their tale.
Here is a tool. Here is a very simple, easy to replay, irrefutable presentation that is for even the layman (which most of us are) to comprehend and understand.

Not being a skilled poster I apologize in advance. I’ve always sought a simple brief presentation (which I knew would come along eventually) that I could show people I know which would prove Global Warming to be a fraud, or at a minimum, show it to be highly suspect.

Think for a moment of all the billions if not trillions of dollars which has been stolen from the American taxpayer to prop up a complete fraud. Because if it indeed is a fraud, then every action based on that fraud that has been taken is equally fraudulent also. The list includes; Greenhouse Gasses, Cafe Standards, all “green” initiatives (Fed,State,Local), “Green” related products, bogus research grants, all related taxes, all government legislation and bureaucracies, Climate Change, Oil consumption and exploration restrictions, and all other actions taken in response to a completely false and unsubstantiated premise called “Global Warming”.

All the fraud, all the wasted energy, all the wasted tax and business expenses would end if we can just reach everyone with the truth.

Link:
http://www.accuweather.com/video-on-demand.asp?video=37129475001


25 posted on 09/14/2009 7:08:24 PM PDT by PRO 1 (POX on posters who's political bent causes them to refuse to be confused by the FACTS!!!!!!)
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To: kingpins10
They didn't destroy the vehicle in a way that made them undrivable, so it didn't accomplish the goal of getting rid of SUVs. It does affect the dealership, but at a dollar value that there is now a bounty on their heads with rewards (by the dealership). ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
26 posted on 09/14/2009 7:20:41 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: jazusamo

2009 HUMMER H3T

Cash for Clunkers - Eligible New Cars

http://www.edmunds.com/cash-for-clunkers/new-car-candidates.html


27 posted on 09/14/2009 10:05:17 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; jazusamo; Salvation
Oregon

Texas:

Activist admits keying Hummers in Southlake Video

SOUTHLAKE - A 72-year-old man caught on camera keying a teen's Hummer admitted to police it wasn't his first time.

James Jeppe said he has keyed four other Hummers over the last four months, according to an arrest warrant.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa0809022_mo_hummers.a0ce3f9c.html

28 posted on 09/14/2009 10:39:18 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: jazusamo

ELF, I bet!


29 posted on 09/14/2009 10:45:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jazusamo; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
Oregon Ping

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.

30 posted on 09/14/2009 10:46:49 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Now, why would KATU immediately interview a liberal professor about auto vandalism? To justify the act.


31 posted on 09/15/2009 6:48:01 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: jazusamo

Inside job? Insurance scam?


32 posted on 09/15/2009 6:50:33 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: george76

Thanks, George. That sure shoots down the enviros hate for the Hummer.


33 posted on 09/15/2009 7:44:12 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: dragnet2

I’d forgotten about that old hypocrite that was keying the Hummers, and he drove a BMW that was a gas hog.


34 posted on 09/15/2009 7:48:13 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Salvation
ELF, I bet!

Wouldn't surprise me at all, it fits their twisted agenda.

35 posted on 09/15/2009 7:49:40 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
A sociology professor at Portland State University said there are plenty of reasons that could have motivated the vandals to do all of this damage.

“Investigative” reporting leads you to interview a sociology professor?
36 posted on 09/15/2009 7:54:03 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The custodian at the elementary school wasn’t available.


37 posted on 09/15/2009 7:56:10 AM PDT by MaxMax (Don't stop them when they're imploding, just step out of their way)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The prof was probably one of the reporters idols in college.


38 posted on 09/15/2009 8:15:49 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
They did that several years ago in Eugene, torched 30 some cars & trucks at the local Chevy dealer. These were total burnouts, with all the melted plastic, fluids, etc. mixed with the thousands of gallons of water from the fire hoses, all flowing downhill - right into the river.

In that little burst of "activism" going on at the time, the same bunch tried to blow up a local oil company's tank farm. Who know how big a mess that would have made.

If these people really thought they were saving the environment by destroying property they'd be idiots. Whatever they destroy gets repaired or rebuilt - so whatever "harm" was caused by their target is effectively doubled.

Of course they're just communist tools, out to destroy the evil that is wealth and property.

39 posted on 09/15/2009 8:17:43 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
Of course they're just communist tools, out to destroy the evil that is wealth and property.

I agree, that's exactly what it's about with them.

40 posted on 09/15/2009 8:22:51 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Little Pig

It’s been my understanding that the Hummer is more eco-friendly, from “cradle to grave,” then the Prius (nickle in the battery, multiple cross-oceanic transport in construction of battery, etc).


41 posted on 09/15/2009 9:11:55 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: jazusamo

Move Alog!
Nothing to see here!
Just ‘Tea Baggers’ protesting ‘Government Motors’!
/sarc


42 posted on 09/15/2009 9:19:30 AM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (In the name of diversity, we are all becoming exactly the same.)
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To: jazusamo

One point on the bright side: We know that Chrysler dealers who supported Republicans got put out of business. So that means this dealer supports Democrats, which means he’ll have less money now to donate to the allies of ELF!


43 posted on 09/15/2009 10:50:42 AM PDT by Twotone
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Looks like it was ELF>
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ELF website says Vic Alfonso vandalism was eco-saboteurs

by Bryan Denson, The Oregonian
Tuesday September 15, 2009, 12:47 PM

The Earth Liberation Front press office has posted news of this week's vandalism at a Northeast Portland auto dealership, saying the attack appears to be the work of eco-saboteurs.

As many as 15 vehicles -- most of them Hummers -- were damaged in the incident. But so far, the vandals who poured acid on the vehicles at Vic Alfonso Cadillac Hummer have yet to claim responsibility. The dealership is in the 600 block of Northeast 12th Avenue.

Police were alerted to the crime at 6:12 a.m. Monday. Central Precinct detectives are investigating and the FBI is assisting.

Typically in such an attack, underground saboteurs strike out at enterprises they accuse of profiting from despoiling the natural world, such as auto dealerships that sell large sport utility vehicles and trucks that produce more air pollution than smaller cars.

They then send a message to the Earth Liberation Front press office, which publishes the so-called "communiques."

Sometimes, vandals tag the scene of the crime with "ELF" or other graffiti.

"As far as I know, there was no tagging" at Vic Alfonso, said Beth Anne Steele, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Portland, which has stepped in to assist police in their vandalism investigation.

The FBI, which describes the Earth Liberation Front as a leading domestic terrorist group, has spent much of the last decade poring through the wreckage of car dealerships across the United States struck by eco-saboteurs.

In March 2001, a cell of ELF arsonists struck Romania Chevrolet in Eugene, setting a lot full of SUVs ablaze and causing $1 million in damage.

That attack was dwarfed on Aug. 22, 2003, when arsonists struck several auto dealerships in the Los Angeles suburbs. In a single night, they caused $2.5 million in damage.

The next morning on a lot full of smoldering, $50,000 Hummer H2s in West Covina, investigators found spray-painted slogans that included "SUVS SUCK," "FAT LAZY AMERICANS," and -- as elsewhere across the nation -- the ubiquitous "ELF."

Detective Mary Wheat, Portland police spokeswoman, said anyone with information concerning this incident should contact Detective Matt Horton at 503-823-0268.


44 posted on 09/15/2009 4:28:50 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: All; Twotone; ThunderSleeps; Jacquerie; mylife; Rebelbase; UCANSEE2; KosmicKitty; ...

UPDATE: Post #44 Ping!


45 posted on 09/15/2009 4:29:14 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: All

Link to post #44

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2009/09/elf_website_says_vic_alfonso_v.html


46 posted on 09/15/2009 4:30:53 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Vandalism ping for those afraid of vandals


47 posted on 09/15/2009 5:07:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Ya'll best stay put, or get ready to run again, or else be Californicated. Ah mean it.)
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To: jazusamo
To the eco-terrorists out there:

As Jeff Dunham's Walter would say, "Way to go, dumba##!" Good job releasing acid and dissolved paints and finishes into the environment. Don't even try to say the ends justifies the means. You're simply mean, angry people with an axe to grind but no real concern for the environment or being responsible citizens of the world. Hypocrites.

48 posted on 09/15/2009 7:37:11 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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