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Tape shows beating on bus of Belleville West student (with video)
Drudge ^ | 9-15-09 | Leah Thorsen

Posted on 09/15/2009 6:23:49 AM PDT by blueyon

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To: Nevermore

Unless and until the stupid “hate crime” status is eliminated through repeal, we suffer an uneven playing field by shunning “hate crime” status for the epidemic of violent black-on-white crime. Until then, we have to fight fire with fire. “Hate crime” status brings enhanced sentencing, so it’s more than just “crap.” Until blacks are punished for attacking whites for their skin color, they aren’t going to get the message that they can’t attack whites for their skin color. I don’t care what their reasons are or how many excuses the sociologists make for them. They choose to violently victimize whites because they are white. This has happened in every African country where blacks have gained power and it’s happening here. Their reasons for victimizing whites, to the extent that they have any, irrational as they are, are completely irrelevant and of no interest to me nor should they be to anyone else.


151 posted on 09/15/2009 2:41:34 PM PDT by bustinchops (Teddy ("The Hiccup") Kennedy - the original water-boarder)
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To: DinkyJackson

Your Dad made just one mistake: He told the cops.


152 posted on 09/15/2009 3:30:40 PM PDT by HKMk23 (In the end, life contains only one tragedy: not to have been a saint.)
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To: lastchance

I’m not talking about the decent ones, there are many, of course. That goes without saying, or at least I thought it did.

The fact remains that if you allow yourself or your kids to get near groups of young, poor black kids you are asking for medical bills.

I’ve seen too many people get hurt.

There is battling racism, which I support wholeheartedly, then there is suicidal behavior.

Take my advice, or call me racist, I don’t care, really. But don’t call me or my kids layed-up in the hospital, or dead.


153 posted on 09/15/2009 3:36:28 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: blackminorca

The Davies J-Curve is an uncanny way of perceiving social movements: they are the result of empowerment rather than deprivation. Those supressed have no power to weild; as power is gained, impatience for desired outcomes increases, and power is wielded to obtain it. The Civil Rights movement was just so.

I’d say that any J-Curve we might be heading into now with the black community will be one with a conservative bent: expectations for the Obama presidency flatly and already fly far above reality, so whatever of his agenda he passes will not meet those expectations, and the J-Curve gap will explode.

Just think about the black middle and upper classes, and how much their daily expectations diverge from the socialist outcomes Obama is pushing. They will no more like the higher taxes, crappy health services, and flat or inflationary economy that Obama is pushing than conservatives.


154 posted on 09/15/2009 4:05:18 PM PDT by nicollo (you're freakin' out!)
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To: blueyon

If the races were truly “equal” the press would be calling this what it is: A HATE CRIME!


155 posted on 09/15/2009 4:13:57 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: American Silver Eagle
I have also taught in an large city public school where the majority of the student body was African-American but my experience was a bit different than the narrative link you provided. On the whole I found the narrative very stereotypically racist and offensive; HOWEVER, I will admit to you that there were some elements of truth to it.
To me, the problem is socio-economic class structure—whether it black or white students involved. Where there was parental involvement, strong spiritual guidance and nurture the black students I taught were very good ones. The girls weren't “fat” or constantly “seeking sex” and the boys weren't disrespectful juvenile trouble makers or gang members. The trouble was that they the ones resembling Steve Irkle were often dominated by bullies (usually the athletic jocks) and so were the girls.
I once had a bright young student named “Linda” and her Wexler must have been off the chart. I was teaching a freshman social studies class on world history (the Enlightenment) and she could actually anticipate the questions I was going to ask. Whether it was Harvey's discovery of blood circulation, Delacroix's paintings of the French Revolution, Diderot's encyclopedia, she knew the history behind it. However, she purposely failed the tests I would give. I called her aside one afternoon and asked her about the marks she made and she began crying...she told me “terrible things can go on in the girl's bathroom if you're acting ‘white!” I told her mother about it and she immediately withdrew her from school and got a scholarship to an Episcopal private school here in Virginia. (I bumped into her mom the other day in the grocery store and learned that Linda is in her second year of med school now.)
IMHO, many good African-American students fall prey to peers much the same way that many conservative college students do to liberal professors when they get to the university level. Just as conservative students are apprehensive about rocking the boat in class, the good African-American just wants to fit in. And who can blame them?
I also would like to point out that the lower class white student—the ones that look like they stuck their face in a tackle box and have more ink on their skin than they do in their ballpoint pens, are just as bad as the ‘hood black rapster and, in many cases, even worse!
156 posted on 09/15/2009 4:15:15 PM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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To: nicollo

Its ironic because whites for the past 40 years have had reduced expectations with the onslaught of quotas, affirmative action, and the belittling of western civilization in general.

The next ten years will be interesting.


157 posted on 09/15/2009 4:50:27 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: Marty62

The Police are trying to prevent a riot, so they changed their story and say it was not racially motivated. Although everyday, the blacks on the bus won’t let this white kid sit on the bus. What do you expect from animals!


159 posted on 09/15/2009 4:53:47 PM PDT by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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To: Morgana

Is that you buckwheat?


160 posted on 09/15/2009 4:55:13 PM PDT by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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To: meandog

Your generalizations are not borne out by the facts.

Crime, single mom families, welfare dependency,failure rates are heavily skewed minority on a per capita basis.

Some is racial (a few percentage points) but the big problem is that the nanny state has bred blacks to expect failure, to admire the gangsta ethic instead of the work ethic, and to partayyyyyy instead putting away for a rainy day.


161 posted on 09/15/2009 4:55:15 PM PDT by blackminorca
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To: blackminorca

Your check is in the mail....


162 posted on 09/15/2009 4:58:12 PM PDT by 57Chevy (Freedom is not Free!)
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To: Halls

This recently happened in Bowie, MD. Blacks jumped a little white kid out riding his bike and beat him to death. The story was quickly hushed up and nary a cry of racism from the local media.


163 posted on 09/15/2009 5:04:56 PM PDT by upstanding
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To: b4its2late

Looks like someone got to the captain....


164 posted on 09/15/2009 5:24:56 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: blackminorca

Great point. And, indeed, interesting times await us.


165 posted on 09/15/2009 5:50:44 PM PDT by nicollo (you're freakin' out!)
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To: blueyon

Happens ever day.

And it doesn’t have to be racial.


166 posted on 09/15/2009 6:10:02 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: blueyon

When Malcom X, I mean, Obama, gets his civilian paramilitary comprised of the youth of this nation which is just as large, just as well-funded and just as well-armed as the military what will he make of these angry children? Angry youth with a ready-made paramilitary peer group indoctrinated into Marxist/Leninist/Communist groupthink with access to weaponry and empowered to quell opposition to Malcom X, I mean, Obama? Or, are we looking at the next generation of ACORN/Community Organizers International? We need to stop excusing this kind of ‘reverse racism’ because it excuses criminal behavior based upon race.


167 posted on 09/15/2009 6:19:15 PM PDT by tokerinchiefisanacornamerican (Tokerinchiefisanacornamerican)
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To: Nea Wood

I saw and felt it to in the 80’s. In a new school and got attacked in a crowded hallway. Attacked from behind without provocation and did not know the boy who did it. That boy just hated whitey and I was happy to have gotten away as quickly as I did. I was always aware of my surroundings after that.


168 posted on 09/15/2009 6:54:50 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Boucheau

I did or do not think you are racist. I was just concerned that these thugs were being seen as typical of all Blacks. And I agree with your points.


169 posted on 09/15/2009 7:14:38 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: meandog

It’s good to know you had a bright student who was able to get out of the quagmire and into a private school.

Your description of her experience in the public school and her torment by other blacks does little to dispel the stereotypes you find racist and offensive.


170 posted on 09/15/2009 7:20:33 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: TXDuke

You’re not a racist & you’re 100% right. 0bozo has accelerated black/white/hispanic racial tensions 1000 fold. He is the epitome of racism & hatred. The kids on the bus doing the beating & harassing of the lone white kid, should literally have the stuffings kicked out of them...and I hope they do some day. We are fast approaching this day of reckoning in Amerika. Be ready to protect & defend yourself with all available means.


171 posted on 09/15/2009 7:43:14 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: karnage

No, actually there is such a thing as hate crimes, but they are covered under laws already existing for rape, murder, assult, etc. In reality the overwhelming majority of “hate crime” assults, rapes & murders, are perpetuated almost entirely by hate-filled black racists against white people. It is time for whites to stand up and fight back with any & all means.


172 posted on 09/15/2009 7:55:56 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: blueyon

Is this what the liberals call “white privilege?”


173 posted on 09/15/2009 8:17:22 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: fujimoh

of course its not racial.....


174 posted on 09/15/2009 10:49:12 PM PDT by cherry
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To: blueyon

after watching that bunch of animals attack the lone kid and the bus driver simply telling them to stop...those parents ought to sue the pants off the kids and the school district....that kid will be wealthy...


175 posted on 09/15/2009 10:54:16 PM PDT by cherry
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To: rcrngroup

Something is either a crime, or it is not. Hate is both irrelevant and not a legal term.


176 posted on 09/15/2009 10:59:11 PM PDT by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: lastchance
where are these law abiding blacks?....I mean, shouldn't they be speaking out and holding marches and prayer services for this poor white kid?...

where is the leadership?...

177 posted on 09/15/2009 11:05:57 PM PDT by cherry
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To: meandog

the difference between white animals and black animals is that the blacks attack in packs.......thus, much more dangerous....


178 posted on 09/15/2009 11:10:15 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Maverick68

“The last few months, we have been witnessing the face of black racism and rage, all the while proclaiming their victimhood...”

In the cities you mean? Out here in the country, we will stick to our guns, and if they show up with all their angst and hate, well..if they step foot on my property I will introduce them to Mr. Smith and Mrs. Wesson. Dont care how many of em there are.


179 posted on 09/15/2009 11:37:27 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: cherry

“the difference between white animals and black animals is that the blacks attack in packs”

- And hence, the extreme inter-dependence on the Democrat Party.


180 posted on 09/15/2009 11:38:24 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: DinkyJackson

Nowadays people realize that they don’t have to do anything; everyone knows where “they” are, and all commerce has naturally migrated away to safer areas/neighborhoods (while you can completely avoid the “bad” areas). Urban blacks have been reduced to the status of “trading post Injuns”, dependent on the good graces of others for the most rudimentary existence while watching the world (and numerous incoming waves of immigrants) pass them by.

However violent Africa may seem at times, I must say that the people involved see a world in which they intend to play a part.


181 posted on 09/16/2009 3:37:27 AM PDT by Carlos Martillo II (Guernica was a work of art...and I don't mean the painting.)
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To: Morgana

We have to update the lyrics on the song you posted:

“The white man is my master
but Jesus is my Lord
The White man talks all day
Oh Lord do I get bored!”

Updated for 2010

The black man is my dictator
but Jesus is my Lord
The black man talks all day
Oh Lord do I get bored!


182 posted on 09/16/2009 4:28:23 AM PDT by glassylassie
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To: coon2000
time to use their tactics.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Use their own rules against them. ( Saul Alinsky)

183 posted on 09/16/2009 4:58:19 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: blueyon

I guess the kid deserved it, since whites are inherently racist, according to “Newspeak”.


184 posted on 09/16/2009 5:03:08 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: blueyon

Some schools in the U.S. are so morally corrupt that it would be better for a child NEVER to attend! I **really** mean this!

Even if the child were to remain illiterate and innumerate, this is a better situation for them than to ever step foot in some of the schools the government runs. I *seriously* mean it.

I have witnessed young people and adults arrive at the community college with less than third grade reading and math skills. Many held graduation diplomas from the local high schools. By attending remedial courses at the community college, I have personally seen how motivated adults can learn in 2 years what their government schools failed to teach them in 13. These are the same kids who just weeks or months earlier were attending a government school. The community college taught them but the government school didn’t.

So....Yes, I **seriously** mean it. There are schools that are so dangerous and morally corrupt that it would be better for the child to **never** attend. If they are motivated ( and chances are better that if they don’t attend they will be better motivated) they can always find an education if they want one.


185 posted on 09/16/2009 5:33:35 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Morgana
"WTF is a blue tail fly????"

Tabanus atratus

186 posted on 09/16/2009 5:46:28 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: blueyon
I too went through similar experiences as a kid growing up on the Southeast side of Houston.

I attended a Jr. High School for a year before my dad moved us out to the country.

It was freakin horrible.

The school was about 65% black, approx 15 to 20% white.

I didn't even know what racism or prejudice was, until I went to that school.

I grew up knowing that black people hated white people...not the other way around.

Took many years to work through that and to realize the truth about what was going on.

To watch that dorky little white kid get savagely beaten by a “crowd” of blacks....just brought those emotions back to the surface.

Man that pisses me off.

Anyone gotta cigarette.

187 posted on 09/16/2009 6:17:04 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: cherry
the difference between white animals and black animals is that the blacks attack in packs.......thus, much more dangerous....

Just where do you come up with this nonsense? Both science and Scripture agree that all of humankind comes from the same single source of two original parents; so human race, if we are to stick to the animal kingdom as you suggest, can be said to be like breeds of dogs--as like humans, they come in different shapes, sizes and colors BUT ALL SHARE THE SAME KIND OF DNA.

188 posted on 09/16/2009 6:44:30 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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To: blackminorca; ladyjane
Your generalizations are not borne out by the facts. Crime, single mom families, welfare dependency,failure rates are heavily skewed minority on a per capita basis. Some is racial (a few percentage points) but the big problem is that the nanny state has bred blacks to expect failure, to admire the gangsta ethic instead of the work ethic, and to partayyyyyy instead putting away for a rainy day.

I don't disagree with a lot of what you've pointed out, however it should be emphasized that where there are strong two-parent nuclear families involved and parental interest in their children's education, that race really doesn't matter much when it comes to achieving success.

My experience with high achieving African-American students found them to mostly be involved with their churches (in choirs, youth groups, etc.) and in school activities which promoted good citizenship (junior ROTC, etc.).

Low-achieving African-American students mostly came from large single-parent, non-involvement families where drugs and violence were often occurring. So, IMO, it had nothing whatsoever to do with race and everything to do with socio-economic class.

189 posted on 09/16/2009 6:53:35 AM PDT by meandog (GWB IS the reason for BHO!)
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To: blueyon

It’s a hate crime. Where’s Janet? And Holder? What’s Maureen Dowd hearing - “fair or not” on this issue? Eff the biased hateful liberals.


190 posted on 09/16/2009 7:04:31 AM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - a scam that would make Madoff blush...)
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To: blueyon

hate crime bump


191 posted on 09/16/2009 9:35:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (ObamaCare - a scam that would make Madoff blush...)
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To: blueyon

I’m glad that isn’t my kid and if it was, he would be riding the bus the next time with a .45 hidden under his shirt. Chicken shits. One of one they run like little mice eee eee ee eee. Let the get 4-5 against one and they are real bad asses. They will be damn lucky if that kids father or one of his relatives doesn’t catch them out one night and show them what a baseball bat can do.


193 posted on 09/16/2009 6:53:54 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mazda77

Indeed, too bad that kid wasn’t carrying. One bang and they would have run like the chicken sh*t they are.


194 posted on 09/16/2009 6:56:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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195 posted on 09/16/2009 7:03:13 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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196 posted on 09/16/2009 7:05:00 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: TXDuke

Yes, they do and they are getting out of control I’m really not liking their snotty as+ attitude. One came in and applied for a job last week. Sent him right back out the door. He has an attitude and I’m not even putting up with that crap. No damn way!


197 posted on 09/16/2009 7:07:16 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: RedMonqey

Political correctness is over! OVER! I will appease no one. We had the nicest black guy that worked for us. He was married to a white girl, a Jehova Witness white girl. He was a nice looking guy, strong, well spoken(none of the ebonic crap), a really nice guy. They came to company parties, we had them over for dinner, a very nice couple.

However, I can assure you racism is alive and well. First we got a call, ready for this? from the president of a local bank. He said don’t send him to the bank of to my home. The receptionist asked why. She thought maybe he had done something wrong. The bank president said tell the owner to call me. When I called, he said, “No offense but wrong color”. I could make an issue out of it and lose a good client or just send one of the other guys, which I did. It irked me no end, because we all really like him, but whatever. A motel manager did the same thing. I guess 2 out of the 6 years he worked for us isn’t that bad.


198 posted on 09/16/2009 7:17:15 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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