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UPDATE: Police captain backtracking on whether attack was racially motivated
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH ^ | 9-15-2009 | Leah Thorsen and Nicholas J.C. Pistor

Posted on 09/15/2009 12:46:57 PM PDT by anonsquared

BELLEVILLE -- A Belleville police spokesman now says an incident where a white student was beaten by teen black assailants on a bus “may not be racially motivated.”

“It was premature on my part,” said Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax. “It was my personal and emotional comment after only seeing the video briefly.”

Sax said police interviewed the 17-year-old Belleville West High student. However, he said he was unaware of what the student told police.

Some of the students on the bus yesterday during the incident cheered the beating, the video shows.

Sax said a formal statement would be made available later today.

“After having reviewed the video, it doesn't strike me nearly as racially motivated,” Sax said.

The about-face came this morning as the story made national headlines. Although, Sax said it was purely his review of the video that changed his mind.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barbarians; beating; getwhitey; hatecrime; racism
“After having reviewed the video, it doesn't strike me nearly as racially motivated,” Sax said.

After a phone call from the White House?

1 posted on 09/15/2009 12:46:58 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: anonsquared

I’m going to take the boys out for a beer and talk it over!


2 posted on 09/15/2009 12:48:23 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: anonsquared

The story was the white kid was told not to sit next to them, then the fight started.

Post racial period is over.


3 posted on 09/15/2009 12:48:34 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: anonsquared

“Belleville has had a long history of racial turmoil, with a past that includes police harassment of black motorists, cross burnings and discrimination in city hiring.”

The white kid got what was coming to him?


4 posted on 09/15/2009 12:49:34 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: anonsquared

I guess the policeman does not want to go to the White House for a beer.

Of course it was flat out racism.


5 posted on 09/15/2009 12:50:06 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: anonsquared

Gutless PC moron.


6 posted on 09/15/2009 12:50:23 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: anonsquared

No, but Joe Wilson says “You Lie” and that’s somehow racist.


7 posted on 09/15/2009 12:50:40 PM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is a trojan horse designed to infiltrate and bring down Western civilization.)
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To: anonsquared

Looks like somebody enlightened the Captain regarding what “hate crimes” laws are all about.


8 posted on 09/15/2009 12:51:20 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: anonsquared

Is the mayor up for reelection??


9 posted on 09/15/2009 12:51:45 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: anonsquared
When the president lies to you, and you respond with "You lie!" -- that is racist.

When a couple of black kids beat up a white kid, while other black kids laugh and cheer -- well, there's probably no racial component to it.

10 posted on 09/15/2009 12:52:14 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: Tarpon

The “post-racial period” was an illusion,
and a lie sold by the media and 0bama.

This guy has a “get whitey” agenda and he’s implementing it.


11 posted on 09/15/2009 12:52:14 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: anonsquared

Far different than if it was some white kids beating up a Black...then there would be no question of racism and Sharpton would already be there leading the protests.


12 posted on 09/15/2009 12:52:26 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Tarpon
It is time that whites get to the back of the bus or we (crackers) will get our a** kicked.

Obama is now in control and we must submit!

This country is getting uglier and uglier by the day!

13 posted on 09/15/2009 12:53:01 PM PDT by purpleporter
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To: anonsquared

Two high school boys get into a fight while all the kids around chant “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.” I think this has happened in schools every since they made schools. This wouldn’t be news worthy except that the two kids were of a different race.


14 posted on 09/15/2009 12:54:34 PM PDT by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: Interesting Times

*Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax. “It was my personal and emotional comment after only seeing the video briefly.”

Sax appeal.


15 posted on 09/15/2009 12:56:10 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: anonsquared
A Belleville police spokesman now says an incident where a white student was beaten by teen black assailants on a bus “may not be racially motivated.”

You lie.

16 posted on 09/15/2009 12:56:23 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: political1

“two kids were of a different race.”

Two. You are a hoot.


17 posted on 09/15/2009 12:56:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: political1

Damn that Drudge, making trouble again.


18 posted on 09/15/2009 12:57:47 PM PDT by BilLies
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To: anonsquared

Either repeal existing hate laws (preferable), or pass another batch of them that apply to crimes against whites too.


19 posted on 09/15/2009 12:59:38 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: anonsquared

After having reviewed the video, it doesn’t strike me nearly as racially motivated,” Sax said. ....

You mean after a call from the White House?....


20 posted on 09/15/2009 12:59:41 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: political1

Two high school boys did not get into a fight. One boy was targeted and beaten by two others and only tried to protect himself.


21 posted on 09/15/2009 1:00:09 PM PDT by anonsquared (DEFUND HUD!)
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To: political1

“This wouldn’t be news worthy except that the two kids were of a different race.”

You left off the sarcasm tag...


22 posted on 09/15/2009 1:00:11 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Integrity is the lifeblood of democracy. Deceit is a poison in it." - Ted Kennedy (D-HELL)
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To: misharu
Belleville has had a long history of racial turmoil, with a past that includes police harassment of black motorists, cross burnings and discrimination in city hiring.

Perhaps not as cheery as you thought.

23 posted on 09/15/2009 1:01:09 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: anonsquared

Root beer summit coming up?


24 posted on 09/15/2009 1:01:21 PM PDT by maggief (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: anonsquared; All

In the words of the black school security guard who forced a healthcare reform protester to take down a sign that was not on school property, “This ain’t America no more!”


25 posted on 09/15/2009 1:01:35 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: anonsquared

the quickest way to tell if something is racist is to reverse the rolls.


26 posted on 09/15/2009 1:01:36 PM PDT by envisio (Wanna understand all the problems with this country? Google "Kanye West".)
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To: beethovenfan

“Gutless PC moron...”

Your right we need to start calling what it is and by its real name: “Political Corruption” or “Politically Corrupt”!

Political Corruption is when someone else can dictate what you can think, say and do; overriding free thinking, common sense, lawful behavior and your First Amendment freedoms.


27 posted on 09/15/2009 1:03:09 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: anonsquared

If it had been a bunch of white kids beating the crap out of a black kid, the Department of Justice would have already announced a federal investigation into how the civil rights of the black kid were violated, the white kids would be pilloried in the media, Revvum Jackson and Al SharpTON would already be checked into the nearest Hilton near Belleville and holding press conferences demanding more legislation both federal and state to prohibit ‘hate crimes’, and candlelight vigils would be taking place throughout the region with loud mournful wails of ‘weeee shallllll overrrrrcommmmmmeeeee’...


28 posted on 09/15/2009 1:05:28 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: anonsquared
The gentleman on the right is the Chief of Police, thus Don Sax's Boss. He was appointed in 2007.


29 posted on 09/15/2009 1:06:36 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: anonsquared

This cop was apparently made aware of the fact that whites CANNOT BE the victims of racist attacks. Only blacks, latinos, Muslims...well, anybody but whites. He was also made aware of the fact that should he draw any other conclusion, he would be pounding a beat in downtown Detroit, by “special request” of the Whitey House!


30 posted on 09/15/2009 1:08:38 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: political1
Two high school boys get into a fight while all the kids around chant “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.”

It wasn't one-against-one. It was multiple against one.

31 posted on 09/15/2009 1:10:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: anonsquared

I predict this year will be the bloodiest school year on record - elementary, senior, and college/university.


32 posted on 09/15/2009 1:10:57 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: anonsquared
The victim eventually returned to his seat, but another student began taunting him a few minutes later. The victim was then struck in the face.

It was unclear what, if anything, the bus driver did to stop the attack. At one point, before the second attack, a man shouts, “Sit down guys.”

What is standard operating procedure when something like this happens? Continue as if nothing happened? Was the bus driver black also?

33 posted on 09/15/2009 1:12:13 PM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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To: envisio

So true. A little old lady who lives down the street had an interesting comment about the news of late including the Kanye West dustup. “Black folks better shape up before whites find out that the Saudis will pay $1000 a head for slaves and decide to sell us back.” Yes, she is black. She also told me not to blame her for Obama because she didn’t vote for him! She had me in stitches with her commentary on ACORN which I cannot reprint here.


34 posted on 09/15/2009 1:13:12 PM PDT by anonsquared (DEFUND HUD!)
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To: anonsquared

What’s next? Have the white kid apologize?


35 posted on 09/15/2009 1:19:16 PM PDT by Brownie63
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To: anonsquared

It might well have been racially motivated, but I don’t like when it is assumed that race was the motivation whenever blacks beat up whites, or whites beat up blacks (of course the assumption is much more commonly made in the latter case than the former.)

They might have beat him up because he was white, or maybe simply because they are violent, little thugs. I’d think if they interview the victim and the witnesses, it could be determined, farily easily, whether race was the motivation.

At any rate, whatever, their motivation, the little thugs who did this deserve to be locked up, in adult prison, for several years. The little thugs’ parents should be sued and pay around 20% of their earnings to the victim for the next 30 years or so. The bus driver, at a minimum, should be fired and perhaps charged with endangering the welfare of a child.

The kids who cheered them on, should all be expelled from school for the year, be forced to repeat the grade they are in next year, and be required to clean the school’s toilets all of the next school year, if they wish to be reinstated.

Of course, none of this will happen, but it should.


36 posted on 09/15/2009 1:24:41 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: anonsquared

I find little old black ladies to be quite full of common sense. Especially the ones that have really seen the hard times that the younger folk claim they have seen.


37 posted on 09/15/2009 1:27:24 PM PDT by envisio (Wanna understand all the problems with this country? Google "Kanye West".)
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To: anonsquared

Also... there was a 75yo black lady telling my wife how to improve her batter on her fried chicken. My wife did not think the lady’s technique would work.

I told my wife: for future reference, when a 75yo black lady tells you how make fried chicken, you’d best listen.


38 posted on 09/15/2009 1:35:41 PM PDT by envisio (Wanna understand all the problems with this country? Google "Kanye West".)
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To: envisio

My neighbor is a real sweetie. I have never asked her age, but she has loads of common sense. Most mornings when I go for my walk she comes out to walk with me. She is getting a little unsteady, yet still wants to get out and about. I lend her my arm and get so much more in wisdom back from her. America needs to listen to her oldsters!


39 posted on 09/15/2009 1:42:46 PM PDT by anonsquared (DEFUND HUD!)
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To: anonsquared

I would love to see the victim sue the perps’ families right out of their ACORN housing.


40 posted on 09/15/2009 1:42:54 PM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: DuncanWaring

Well, I live on the other side of the river in far West St. Louis County, but I have some friends who live over there. I guess they are in the “good” part of town?


41 posted on 09/15/2009 1:49:40 PM PDT by misharu (US Congress = children without adult supervision)
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To: misharu

Could be.


42 posted on 09/15/2009 1:53:48 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: political1
"...Two high school boys get into a fight while all the kids around chant “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.” I think this has happened in schools every since they made schools..."

This was no fight. It was not one but two racial attacks on the same non-combatant boy. He was not fighting. He spent most of the video getting beat and never made an aggressive move.

43 posted on 09/15/2009 2:02:09 PM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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Of course it wasn’t racism. Black kids spontaneously erupt in violence all the time, doesn’t matter who is sitting next to them. That is why zero tolerance laws against violence in schools are racist, as reverend jackson so eloquently explained.


44 posted on 09/15/2009 2:02:58 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: anonsquared

White males are the new Jews.


45 posted on 09/15/2009 2:02:58 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Conservatism seduces the mind while Liberalism enslaves the body.")
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To: anonsquared
I'm confident that he would have reached the same conclusion if the races were reversed.

A group of white kids pounding the crap out of a black boy for sitting in the wrong seat on the bus would clearly not be racially motivated.

Why are some people so cowardly!?

46 posted on 09/15/2009 2:05:19 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: anonsquared

That’s why “hate crimes” legislation was a bad idea. It was never going to applied uniformly. Black on White violence wasn’t going to be characterized as “hate crime” even if it obviously was. Everybody pretty much knew this when the legislation was debated, but in a lot of places it passed anyway.


47 posted on 09/15/2009 2:07:06 PM PDT by x
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To: anonsquared

Would it be racist to ask the race of the police chief? The first responders?


48 posted on 09/15/2009 2:44:59 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: political1
I think this has happened in schools every since they made schools. This wouldn’t be news worthy except that the two kids were of a different race.

That would be a cutesy PC response, but only if it agrees with the initial report.
It was not one on one; more like 4 or 5 on one.

Thugs don't know nothing about fairness. How about you?

49 posted on 09/15/2009 2:47:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: anonsquared

I saw the video. If that were a group of White thugs cheering on one of their own against a Black kid, the Justice Department would’ve sent a SWAT team to Belleville.


50 posted on 09/15/2009 4:09:39 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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