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Yale tech's fiancee writes on MySpace: Don't judge
Associated Press ^ | 9/16/09 | Unattributed

Posted on 09/16/2009 9:40:29 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts

Edited on 09/16/2009 9:54:28 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

NEW HAVEN, Conn. — The fiancee of a Yale University animal research technician says on her MySpace page that she's not perfect, but cautioned people not to judge her.

"Who are you to judge the life I live? I know I'm not perfect and I don't live to be, but before you start pointing fingers make sure your hands are clean!!" writes Jennifer Hromadka, the 23-year-old woman engaged to Raymond Clark III.


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KEYWORDS: fianceemyspace; murder; raymondclark; yale
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1 posted on 09/16/2009 9:40:29 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Maybe she killer Le.


2 posted on 09/16/2009 9:42:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I read somewhere she posted ‘don’t judge’ last Friday.


3 posted on 09/16/2009 9:44:14 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: nickcarraway
That's what I suspect at this point. They took DNA from Clark to essentially clear him. Now the fiancee seems to be missing. Very suspicious. Could be she was jealous of Miss Le.

Hell, after all, holds no fury like a woman scorned.

4 posted on 09/16/2009 9:44:32 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: nickcarraway

she killed Le b/c her fiance was having an affair with Le?


5 posted on 09/16/2009 9:44:52 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

They have the “suspect” under watch. DNA testing needs 48-72 hours.
Nothing to conclude yet.

Other than this girl is whacky.


6 posted on 09/16/2009 9:48:24 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: Ravi; Bloody Sam Roberts

Or just because she had unfounded jealousy. Le was 90 pounds, so it is possible this woman could have overpowered her and moved her around.


7 posted on 09/16/2009 9:48:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

well then, we know that the White House has captured all of his information, so not to worry....


8 posted on 09/16/2009 9:54:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Is it just me and my old fashioned sense of things, or is the basis of support for things like MySpace, FaceBook and Twitter really from those in the populace who are either narcissists, or socially deprived in real life, or humongously insecure and in desperate need of attention, or just plane silly???
10 posted on 09/16/2009 9:58:24 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Clemenza

Does color really matter? Its a guy and a girl, what’s the issue?


11 posted on 09/16/2009 10:04:58 AM PDT by Enigo54 (Never back down, never surrender)
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To: Clemenza
Well... the Asian race is quite beautiful in general, especially the Japanese and Philippino.

Asian girls are very conservative in general, and many men want a loyal traditional wife and not a tomboy ERA man hater.

12 posted on 09/16/2009 10:07:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Clemenza

Who are you attacking?

White guys who dare find Asian girls attractive or Asian girls who dare exist?


13 posted on 09/16/2009 10:08:01 AM PDT by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: All

This is totally off-topic, but is anyone else getting a little tired of this “don’t judge me” mentality (this has absolutely nothing to do with the murder of the young lady)?
In theory, it’s great. In practice, it ain’t practical.
We ALL judge, every day and I’m sort of sick of people throwing out the only Bible verse they know in an effort to deflect criticism of their idiotic/antisocial behaviour.
It’s 3AM, you’re walking down the street and see a little old lady with a walker coming toward you. Feel nervous? Of course not.
It’s 3AM, you’re walking down the street and see a gang of young men with baggy pants, cursing and shouting, making idiotic shapes with their hands. Feel nervous? Of course.
Fact is, opposable thumbs and the ability to judge is what separates us from 99% of the life on Earth.
Of course we shouldn’t walk around as if our stuff don’t stank, but being afraid to “judge people” is what has this country in the mess it’s in now.


14 posted on 09/16/2009 10:09:08 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Nah, most Chinese, Japanese, and Korean girls are very materialistic IMHO.

FWIW: I am a white American guy who prefers Meds and Latins.

15 posted on 09/16/2009 10:09:53 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Nah, most Chinese, Japanese, and Korean girls are very materialistic IMHO. Most Asians also vote Dem, regardless of gender.

FWIW: I am a white American guy who prefers Meds and Latins.

16 posted on 09/16/2009 10:10:10 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Wuli

Yes...
We have a Society full of attention-starved narcissists who insist on fame or notoriety without having to do anything worthy of it.
I know too many people who have absolutely no talent whatsoever who tattoo their bodies and pierce their skin in a desparate attempt at trying to make themselves “unique” and cool. They crave the look, but there’s no “there” there...


17 posted on 09/16/2009 10:12:14 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: Clemenza

I’m a white American married to a Japanese woman. You have a problem with that?


18 posted on 09/16/2009 10:13:02 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Tolkien
I am not attacking those folks who have an attraction to other races (I myself have a GF who is nonwhite), but the level of effete metrosexual white guys with slant-eyed girlfriends is excessive compared to other couplings. To each his own I guess. I just find it odd that it has become so common in the past decade. You don't see too many Asian men with white women.

I also find it particularly odd as Asians are less culturally compatible with white Americans than (most) Latinos and Europeans. This is another one of those American cultural trends that I just don't understand. I guess some men are not threatened by boyish, quiet women...

19 posted on 09/16/2009 10:13:43 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Poundstone

Not at all. :) Read my last post, its (the white boy/Asian girl thing) is just a trend that I find odd.


20 posted on 09/16/2009 10:14:47 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
When I said conservative I didn't mean politically, I was speaking about how they treat their husbands and how they fill the role of a traditional wife who likes to cook and keep house ect, which can be very difficult to find these days.
21 posted on 09/16/2009 10:17:26 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Clemenza

So far you have called them douches and effete. But you don’t have a problem at all.


22 posted on 09/16/2009 10:19:12 AM PDT by pas
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

So far this is all speculative, but I think it’s her fiance who is the suspect, not this girl. And maybe her friends are giving her grief because she’s engaged to the suspect. And maybe the suspect was playing around with both girls.

Not really enough to go on, but that seems likelier than that she did it.


23 posted on 09/16/2009 10:19:28 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Enigo54

The issue is when it seems 30-50% of the couples I see in Manhattan these days are white men/Asian women, even though Asians are a small % of the population relative to blacks, Latinos, and whites, and that an Asian man/white woman is rarer than a black swan. “Color blindness” is a myth, and the relationships in question prove it.


24 posted on 09/16/2009 10:21:48 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza
I think certain interracial matches are more common than others because many people feel most comfortable in a relationship where the male is dominant and the female is submissive.

Certain races seem to have either ultra-macho men or ultra submissive women.

25 posted on 09/16/2009 10:32:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Clemenza

I can easily see what men see in oriental women, what I can’t see is how the women could be attracted to the scummy white guys they are with.


26 posted on 09/16/2009 10:32:49 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

From the article. ***Clark and Hromadka were both animal research technicians in the lab where Le worked. Her body was found stuffed behind a wall in the laboratory Sunday.***

I am reminded of the two monsters: Homulka who helped her boyfriend drug and kill her own sister and that nasty Knox animal!!!!

Over the past several decades, we have seen horrific instances of some very brutal behavior in our young women. I hope this is not another.


27 posted on 09/16/2009 10:32:55 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Nail on the head.

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but this is an issue that I haven't been able to discuss elsewhere (DAMN political correctness!).

While I am far from being Tuco Ramirez, the Italian half of me makes me a bit too congenitally macho (yet conversely overly sentimental) for either American feminists or Bourgeois Asians, the latter of whom seem to prefer metrosexuals and yuppies. I'm happy with my Brazuca myself after a long search.

Now, back to talking about this poor girl's murder. Looks as though it may have been a classic crime of passion/obsession. All too common, I am afraid.

28 posted on 09/16/2009 10:36:12 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Wuli
Is it just me and my old fashioned sense of things, or is the basis of support for things like MySpace, FaceBook and Twitter really

I don't analyze it; who knows why people flock to sites like that. But I'm single and relatively young, yet haven't a presence at any of those sites. Nor any intention of signing up. OTOH, some friends of mine who are authors with books to publicize, use these sites.

Old-fashioned? Yep. So retro, I'm unlisted in the phone book!

"A lady's name should appear in publication only three times in her life: when she's born, when she weds, and when she departs." :)

29 posted on 09/16/2009 10:36:25 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

BTW, looks like they released the cause of death: traumatic asphyxiation.


30 posted on 09/16/2009 10:40:43 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Why couldn’t they just say strangulation?


31 posted on 09/16/2009 10:43:03 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: calex59
It's because race still carries a degree of power whether we like it or not, or care to admit it.

Many women are attracted to powerful males, but power can take many forms, one of them being race.

A woman who has no chance of marrying a truly rich or powerful man, may consider marrying a man of another race that is perceived to be better and thus more powerful (just her perception) if that is the best she thinks she can do. Men on the other hand are not generally attracted to powerful women and prefer to be the ones in charge, so the same phenomenon occurs but in reverse.

32 posted on 09/16/2009 10:43:41 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: calex59

“...due to neck compression.” Maybe strangulation sounds too layman-ese.


33 posted on 09/16/2009 10:44:57 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Asian girls are very conservative in general, and many men want a loyal traditional wife and not a tomboy ERA man hater.

Agreed. They're smart too. I'm partial to the Vietnamese and the Thais. They are very sweet tempered (for the most part).

34 posted on 09/16/2009 10:49:10 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

After learning that the young male lab technician is also engaged to be married, it’s possible that he and Annie may have been just very close, platonic friends. I have had work colleagues who were ‘hugging’ types. Perhaps his fiancee saw them together, misjudged their affectionate relationship and just ‘lost it’.

Now he may be trying to cover for her.


35 posted on 09/16/2009 10:54:06 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: Clemenza

Dunno, could it be that Asian girls do not have the “attitude” many “feminist” white girls have?

I live out here in “fly-over-land”, so haven’t the opportunity to scan the crowds looking for such pairings. But, I have sons, and before they married, felt some concern that they would marry young women who were so ignorant of what it takes to make a marriage work.


36 posted on 09/16/2009 10:54:28 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej
Look at it this way.

Imagine there is a macho scale ordered by race. In descending order from most macho to least.

Blacks
White
Hispanic
Asian

Men will tend to marry women from their level of macho or lower, while women will tend to marry from their level or macho or higher. The end result is that you hardly ever see a black woman married to anyone but a black man or a Asian man married to anyone but a Asian girl. (Extreme wealth or power can however overpower these tendencies)

37 posted on 09/16/2009 11:05:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Clemenza
Um, your narrow-eyed comment is narrow-minded.

And the fascination with Asian girls is that most men assume they will:

Do everything they are told

Are great in bed

Will cook, clean, etc. and never question them

Will be subservient.

Look at the comments on FR alone from the men who 'got Asian girls as wives'.

38 posted on 09/16/2009 11:08:41 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: Clemenza
I swear, half of the couples I see in NYC are douchy white yuppies with Asian girlfriends.

Prolly due to the fact that liberal women aren't all that fun to be around and have forgotten (or never learned) what it's like to be a lady. Most of the Asian women I know absolutely revel in their femininity. Now why the Asian girls would want to be with a sissy lib metro I don't know. Maybe it's about money.

39 posted on 09/16/2009 11:08:51 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
By the way I don't believe that these differences are in-coded into the different races DNA, it is simply a result of the culture they are brought up in affecting how masculine or feminine they express themselves.
40 posted on 09/16/2009 11:10:19 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: rintense

Again, these men are afraid of women with “fire.” This seems to be the case with many (hopefully not most) American men these days. Wussified by feminism, they seek the only race of women who would submit to them. Its fine and dandy, until they see how much little Lie Chen is charging on the Amex...


41 posted on 09/16/2009 11:12:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: romanesq

No conclusions at this point. Just suspicions.


42 posted on 09/16/2009 11:22:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Medical Examiner: Murdered Yale Graduate Student Strangled

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The New Haven Independent reported that Clark had a romantic interest in Le, but it wasn't reciprocated. He lives in his apartment with fiancee Jennifer Hromadka, whom he plans to marry in December 2011, according to the couple's wedding Web site.

...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,550740,00.html

Guess we're NOT supposed to “judge” this either!

LOL!

I am so tired of this selective “judgment” calls.

43 posted on 09/16/2009 11:24:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nickcarraway
Maybe SHE was jealous of Clark's romantic interest in Le and wanted her out of the picture permanently?
44 posted on 09/16/2009 11:25:27 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; SilvieWaldorfMD; All

This just in....

“My boyfriend, Ray, if you don’t know him, has no interest in any of the other girls at YARC as anything more than friends,” Hromadka wrote, referring to the Yale Animal Resources Center. “To anyone that thinks otherwise, you might be a bit dillusional and may need to take some medication for it.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/09/16/2009-09-16_person_of_interest_raymond_clarks_fiance_jennifer_hromadka_has_defended_him_befo.html#ixzz0RIMhx1KE


45 posted on 09/16/2009 11:25:40 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Heck, maybe SHE killed Le out of jealousy.

How are HER grades?

Le may also be more accomplished than she is too.


46 posted on 09/16/2009 11:26:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Here's a picture of them both:


47 posted on 09/16/2009 11:28:44 AM PDT by inflorida
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Interesting. Then I say it’s 2-1 odds that forensics already has a clue as to whether they are looking for a man or a woman based on ligature marks. That’s if it was done with the hands.


48 posted on 09/16/2009 11:28:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Clemenza
What is up with this weird fetish that white AMERICAN guys have for narrow-eyed women?

racial...

49 posted on 09/16/2009 11:28:57 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: inflorida
She's definitely guilty.
Guilty as hell.
50 posted on 09/16/2009 11:29:54 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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