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ACORN says workers conduct 'indefensible' (Suspends, plans audit, in wake of videos)
The Washington Times ^ | 9-16-2009 | Jeffrey H. Birnbaum

Posted on 09/16/2009 12:54:21 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly

UPDATED:

ACORN, calling the actions of some of its employees "indefensible," has suspended advising new clients as part of its service programs and is setting up an independent review to see what happened.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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Suspends operations. Hmm.
1 posted on 09/16/2009 12:54:21 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Thank you Glenn Beck, Brietbart, James O’Keefe & Hannah Giles!


2 posted on 09/16/2009 12:56:19 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
From a related article:

In addition, she said, "ACORN's independent Advisory Council will help select an independent auditor/reviewer no later than September 18th to review all of the systems and processes called into question by the videos." In early 2009, ACORN set up an independent Advisory Council to help put together a new management team under Lewis. Lewis was appointed to the job in the fall of 2008 after disclosure of a set of improper management decisions by the founder of the organization.

The Advisory Council includes John Podesta, president of the liberal Center for American Progress; Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, a former lieutenant governor of Maryland; Andrew Stern, international president of Service Employees International Union; Henry Cisneros, a former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development; John Banks, vice president of Government Relations Con Ed; and Eric Eve, senior vice president of Global Consumer Group, Community Relations, of Citigroup.

Gang of rogues & thieves.

3 posted on 09/16/2009 12:58:28 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Given that the fish rots from the head down, I’d say it’s probably time for Ol’ Bertha to decide to spend more time with her family.


4 posted on 09/16/2009 12:58:30 PM PDT by theyreallthesame
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To: Clinging Bitterly
Dear ACORN,

Here's what happened. You got caught.

5 posted on 09/16/2009 12:59:38 PM PDT by hometoroost (Torture? Would you rather do 5 years at Gitmo or 5 hours with the Muslims?)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
.... calling the actions of some of its employees "indefensible,".....

That's a curious statement after ACORN's leadership spent the last several days defending it employees.

6 posted on 09/16/2009 1:00:05 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

We all knew they’d try the “few bad apples” tactic.
That’s what they’ve always done.

Keep the vids coming.


7 posted on 09/16/2009 1:00:42 PM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
But the $$$$$$$ keeps a-flowin'.....

Are those brown lumps ACORNS or ......? Hard to tell.
8 posted on 09/16/2009 1:00:56 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
A quick reading of those names doesn't suggest independence. Mostly insiders.

That is unacceptable.

9 posted on 09/16/2009 1:01:33 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Who here is dumb enough to believe any of this? The 300 ACORN crime organizations will simply rename themselves, get new corporate charters, and go on as they had before.


10 posted on 09/16/2009 1:03:50 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Clinging Bitterly

ACORN investigating itself?

Sounds like.....Congress investigating itself...

Something tells me, nothing will come of their investigations. Pfffft

Can you say Fox guarding Hen House?


11 posted on 09/16/2009 1:04:09 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (America is at that awkward stage..2 late 2 work within the system, but 2 early 2 shoot the bastards)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Oh how responsible of this fine upstanding institution...


12 posted on 09/16/2009 1:05:26 PM PDT by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

I thought it was just suspending the new applicant’s for housing.

As I understood it, everything else was still a GO.

Am I wrong?


13 posted on 09/16/2009 1:07:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Hey, why don’t they throw Jamie Garelick in there for good measure! We can always count on her to get at the truth. /sarc


14 posted on 09/16/2009 1:07:25 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Clinging Bitterly

I thought they were going to sue Fox and everyone concerned?


15 posted on 09/16/2009 1:08:31 PM PDT by ontap
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Reposting from another thread:

This is the most important moment in this effort. Acorn is trying a desperate public relations strategy: “You see, we’re conducting an audit of ourselves, so you don’t have to have any other investigation by outside law enforcement or regulators”. The RATS will try like the dickens to help them in this.

It is important to keep the heat on and for Republican leaders to stay hot on the message that this organization needs a colonoscopy, defunding and, hopefully, permanent shutdown of all its entities, offshoots, subsidiaries and shell corporations. A lot of people should be going to jail over this, too.


16 posted on 09/16/2009 1:08:46 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Sucks to get caught, don’t it? I guarantee you there would be absolutely NO changes in operating procedure had it not been for these two brave young people, James and Hanna. God bless them.


17 posted on 09/16/2009 1:09:06 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Nah, scapegoats won’t do this time. Break up ACORN.


18 posted on 09/16/2009 1:09:15 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 50... 49... 48...)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Translation:

ACORN will hide all their activities even more in the future. These employees will be transferred to other locations, where we will pay all their relocation costs, and any other costs they might incur with the transfer.
America will continue to get screwed by ACORN and NObama.


19 posted on 09/16/2009 1:09:30 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Clinging Bitterly
Congratulations Glenn Beck!!
20 posted on 09/16/2009 1:09:49 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: JewishRighter

To late there are any number of people who are going to be all over them from here on and there are a lot of dems who are going to be tired of trying to explain this.


21 posted on 09/16/2009 1:11:41 PM PDT by ontap
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To: erkyl

Expect more rhetoric than anything else unless their feet are held close to the fire.


22 posted on 09/16/2009 1:13:39 PM PDT by ontap
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Sure they are. /sarc


23 posted on 09/16/2009 1:16:34 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

It is obvious that the videos shown so far are not just flukes, as it would be impossible for the video makers to have just randomly picked the only bad emploiyees out of the whole group. The thug mentality is inherent in this organization, and some of these fired employees are going to rear up and publicly spill the beans on how they were trained to think it’s OK to turn a blind eye to nefarious activities. Doesn’t excuse them in any way, but they are not all going to just go away quietly.


24 posted on 09/16/2009 1:18:00 PM PDT by Mjaye (If this is where we wanted to end up, we all did everything perfectly.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Is this the new ploy now to avoid RICO charges? “We’re trying to clean up our own mess...don’t hurt us poor ACORN workers!”


25 posted on 09/16/2009 1:19:41 PM PDT by mancini
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To: ontap
I thought they were going to sue Fox and everyone concerned?

That was 2 or 3 videos ago. And it was an idle threat even then.

26 posted on 09/16/2009 1:19:48 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Clinging Bitterly
new rule: pics of hannah on all relevant threads.


27 posted on 09/16/2009 1:22:23 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
If what these employees have done is "indefensible" then why did you TRAIN them to behave this way??

HMMMMMMM????????

28 posted on 09/16/2009 1:24:13 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
Suspends operations. Hmm.

Well yeah, they don't want any more investigative journalists busting them.
29 posted on 09/16/2009 1:24:32 PM PDT by BJClinton (Any "healthcare reform" without tort reform is a fraud.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The Advisory Council includes John Podesta, president of the liberal Center for American Progress; Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, a former lieutenant governor of Maryland; Andrew Stern, international president of Service Employees International Union; Henry Cisneros, a former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development; John Banks, vice president of Government Relations Con Ed; and Eric Eve, senior vice president of Global Consumer Group, Community Relations, of Citigroup.

HENRY CISNEROE is going to help investigate ACORN !!!

LOLOLROTFLMAO

The Henry Cisneros payments controversy was a lengthy investigation begun in 1995 into allegations that Henry Cisneros, United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development during the Presidency of Bill Clinton, had lied to the FBI background check investigators about payments he had made to his former mistress. Independent Counsel David Barrett was appointed to investigate the matter. In 1995 Cisneros was indicted; in 1997 he pleaded guilty to some of the charges against him but served no jail time; in 2001 he was pardoned by President Bill Clinton. The Independent Counsel investigation continued, however, focusing on allegations of obstruction of justice by the Clinton administration. It issued a final report, known as the Barrett Report, in 2006 that did little to resolve matters.

In March 1995, Attorney General of the United States Janet Reno secured the appointment of an Independent Counsel, David Barrett to investigate allegations that Cisneros had lied to FBI investigators during background checks prior to being named Secretary of HUD. He had been asked about payments that he had made to former mistress Linda Medlar, also known as Linda Jones. The affair had been 'public knowledge' for a number of years—during the 1992 presidential campaign, U.S. Treasurer Catalina Vasquez Villalpando publicly referred to Cisneros and candidate Clinton as "two skirt-chasers"—but Cisneros lied about the amount of money he had paid to Medlar. The investigation continued for three and a half years.

In December 1997, Cisneros was indicted on 18 counts of conspiracy, giving false statements and obstruction of Justice. Medlar used some of the Cisneros hush money to purchase a house and entered into a bank fraud scheme with her sister and brother-in-law to conceal the source of the money. In January 1998, Medlar pleaded guilty to 28 charges of bank fraud, conspiracy to commit bank fraud and obstruction of justice.

In September 1999, Cisneros negotiated a plea agreement, under which he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of lying to the FBI, and was fined $10,000. He did not receive jail-time or probation. He was pardoned by President Clinton in January 2001 (see: List of people pardoned by Bill Clinton). The independent counsel investigation continued after the pardon focusing on alleged obstruction of justice. In May 2005, Senator Dorgan (D-ND) proposed ending funding for the investigation; negotiators refused to include the provision in a bill funding military operations in Afghanistan. The funding at that point for the investigation totaled $21 million.

According to a New York Daily News report on October 3, 2005, "lawyers are fighting to suppress a potentially embarrassing final report from the probe that found Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros lied to the FBI about paying $250,000 in hush money to his ex-mistress... Lawyers at the Washington firm Williams & Connolly who work for Cisneros and both Clintons have argued to judges overseeing the case that allegations of illegal activity, for which no charges were filed, should be snipped before the report is made public."[1]

On January 19, 2006, the New York Times reported that the independent counsel is finally closing his investigation with a report accusing the Clinton administration of thwarting the inquiry into Cisneros.[2]

An accurate title for the Report could be, What We Were Prevented from Investigating. After a thorough reading of the Report it would not be unreasonable to conclude as I have that there was a coverup at high levels of our government and, it appears to have been substantial and coordinated. The question is why? And that question regrettably will go unanswered. Unlike some other coverups, this one succeeded.[3]

The Independent Counsel's report has been a source of partisan bickering because it was heavily redacted with an estimated 120 pages removed by court order.[4]

Barrett wrote what was rumored to be a damning report. Release of the report was blocked for a time by parliamentary maneuvers by Clinton's personal attorney David Kendall.

Columnist Emmett Tyrrell wrote the following about the report: "When Barrett completed his report the Clintons' lawyers, led by that legendary Clinton pettifogger, David Kendall, tried to kill off the report either by gutting it with redactions or by getting it buried altogether. Kendall entered some 140 motions pursuant to this goal. The report has been ready for publication since August 2004, but Kendall's nuisance tactics have worked, and now what do we hear from the Clintonistas? They complain that Barrett has cost too much and taken too long. As they are themselves are the reason for much of the cost and delay, advocates of good government should be up in arms. This stratagem has been used too frequently by the Clintonistas to smear an officer of the court."

Prior to his appointment as White House Press Secretary, Tony Snow wrote, "By all accounts, the 400-page Barrett report is a bombshell, capable possibly of wiping out Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential prospects. At the very least, it would bring to public attention a scandal that would make the Valerie Plame affair vanish into comical insignificance."[5]

In April 2005, Senators John Kerry (D-Mass.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) and Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) tried to end the $22 million investigation, including $1 million for the first six months of 2005 - by cutting Barrett's budget, saying "it's a waste of money."[1]

Barrett's report was released in January 2006, but three judges -- David Sentelle (D.C.), Thomas Reavley (Texas) and Peter Fay (Florida) -- blacked 120 pages worth of redactions. Barrett's investigation was far and away the longest independent counsel investigation in history. After agreeing to permit Cisneros - the target of his investigation - to plead guilty to a misdemeanor with no jail sentence, Barrett thereafter spent six years investigating whether the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service had impeded his investigation.

Journalist Robert Novak reported on the release in his January 19, 2006 column: "The long-awaited final report by Independent Counsel David Barrett, to be released today [Thursday], was severely censored by court order but not enough to sufficiently obscure its importance. As long forecast, it alleges serious corruption in the Clinton administration's Justice Department and Internal Revenue Service (IRS). The question is what was contained in 120 pages removed by the judges."[6]

30 posted on 09/16/2009 1:29:10 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: ontap
I thought they were going to sue Fox and everyone concerned?

First they were going to sue.

Then they were just going along with the joke.

Now, they're going to investigate.

Question: Can ACORN use our taxes to pay for its investigation or was earmarked exclusively to fund prostitution?

31 posted on 09/16/2009 1:30:10 PM PDT by Kowdawg
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To: Clinging Bitterly

No mystery, the big dog stepped out on the WH porch and started woofin’. The small bitches at ACORN got the message.


32 posted on 09/16/2009 1:32:08 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Salvation

That’s right.

They’re just not advising new clients. Otherwise business as usual, they hope.

I hope not.


33 posted on 09/16/2009 1:33:50 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

I CALL BS!!!

Anyone who has ever dealt with organizations like this, knows that this is just how and who these groups are, from top to bottom. These are not isolated incidents, its fundamentally and structurally what and who they are.

Society is the enemy, do whatever you want, use and abuse it however you want, laws are for whitey, etc etc etc.

This is systemic not only of ACORN but of all these types of groups.


34 posted on 09/16/2009 1:34:00 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Elle Bee
"Prior to his appointment as White House Press Secretary, Tony Snow wrote, "By all accounts, the 400-page Barrett report is a bombshell, capable possibly of wiping out Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential prospects. At the very least, it would bring to public attention a scandal that would make the Valerie Plame affair vanish into comical insignificance."

It is so sad that one as good as Tony had to be taken from us.

35 posted on 09/16/2009 1:37:00 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
Suspending operations = another definition of COVERUP!!

Demand RICO Investigation of ACORN!

36 posted on 09/16/2009 1:37:36 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: JewishRighter

Nah. If they really want to clean house they need Sandy Berger!


37 posted on 09/16/2009 1:38:01 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: JewishRighter

Defunding. They can do what they want, get out the vote (real votes, that is), whatever. But not with taxpayer money or other non voluntary sources (like union dues - hopefully the next shoe to drop).


38 posted on 09/16/2009 1:45:07 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Who is going to do the audit, SEIU and Charlie Rangel?


39 posted on 09/16/2009 1:45:39 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The Advisory Council includes John Podesta, president of the liberal Center for American Progress; Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, a former lieutenant governor of Maryland; Andrew Stern, international president of Service Employees International Union; Henry Cisneros, a former Secretary of Housing and Urban Development; John Banks, vice president of Government Relations Con Ed; and Eric Eve, senior vice president of Global Consumer Group, Community Relations, of Citigroup.

Dems, unions (SEIU), bailout recipients (Citigroup).

40 posted on 09/16/2009 1:46:03 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Note the tagline.

At this point, only a full-bore repudiation of Malcom “X” will do.


41 posted on 09/16/2009 1:52:02 PM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary" apparently includes pimping sex slaves, and lying about the income.)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

SEIU is on the Advisory Board.


42 posted on 09/16/2009 1:52:05 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Clinging Bitterly

Even Jon Stewart is embarrassed!
http://freedomlibertyshow.com/2009/09/even-jon-stewart-is-embarrassed/


43 posted on 09/16/2009 1:59:35 PM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (0BAMAC0RN)
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To: Clinging Bitterly

“Suspends operations”

No, “suspends advising new clients.” After all, new clients now equals sting operations for the foul organization.


44 posted on 09/16/2009 2:00:01 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Pride in the USA

Acorn will temporarily suspend advising new clients (cuz you never know who they might be and you could get caught!)and audit themselves (hoping that way no one else will order an external audit cuz you could get caught!).

This is so fun!!


45 posted on 09/16/2009 2:20:08 PM PDT by lonevoice (This tagline is identical to the one you are reading)
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To: lonevoice

we need to send some black undercover teams out and see what they get!


46 posted on 09/16/2009 2:21:31 PM PDT by tioga (Drip, Drip, Drip.......the ACORNS are falling.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
I got this from Foxnews on BREAKING NEWS email:

ACORN TO LAUNCH 'INDEPENDENT REVIEW' AFTER VIDEOS EXPOSE WORKERS ADVISING FAKE PIMP AND PROSTITUTE ON HOW TO LIE TO GET LOANS

The fox will investigate the chicken coup!

47 posted on 09/16/2009 2:33:12 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! The "other" Jim Thompson)
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To: HamiltonJay

Read this:

Anatomy of a Shakedown (ties between ACORN and SEIU)
Anita Moncreif
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/09/09/anatomy-of-a-shakedown/?print=1

A quote:

“Current and former Acorn employees say the problems in Kansas City and St. Louis are no accident. ‘There’s no quality control on purpose, no checks and balances,’ says Nate Toler, currently head organizer of an Acorn campaign against Wal-Mart in Merced, Calif. In 2004 he worked on an Acorn voter drive in Missouri, and says Acorn statements aren’t to be taken at face value: ‘The internal motto is “We don’t care if it’s a lie, just so long as it stirs up the conversation.”


48 posted on 09/16/2009 2:33:29 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: 5thGenTexan
SEIU is on the Advisory Board.

And your point is? /just kidding/

49 posted on 09/16/2009 2:36:32 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Clinging Bitterly
Now the LameStream Media will "discover" the story, and talk about how fine and upstanding the leaders of ACORN are, to put a stop to these shenanigans.

Don't it just make ya sick? ;-)

50 posted on 09/16/2009 3:15:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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