Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Helen Thomas: "When Governments Lie - Rep. Joe Wilson Has Become Celebrity Martyr For His Rudeness"
TheBostonChannel.com ^ | 16 Sep 09 | Helen "Infobabe" Thomas

Posted on 09/16/2009 5:00:33 PM PDT by seanmerc

WASHINGTON -- Do presidents and other public officials lie? Do birds fly?

That age-old question was recently evoked when Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., shouted "You lie" after President Barack Obama told a joint session of Congress that his national health care proposal would not cover illegal immigrants.

Wilson’s verbal attack was reminiscent of the back benchers in London’s House of Commons where rhetorical bombast is more frequent than in the halls of Congress.

Wilson apologized for his blast but that didn’t stop the House from voting 240-179 to rebuke him for a breach of decorum "to the discredit of the House."

Wilson has become a celebrity martyr to many conservatives for his rudeness to Obama, just as the Iraqi journalist who threw a pair of shoes at President George W. Bush during a Baghdad visit has become a homegrown hero in Iraq.

When it comes to governmental lies, the Bush administration is the 21st century’s trophy holder, at least so far.

Remember those blatant lies rolled out by Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney when they tried to justify an invasion of Iraq? Those lies have resulted in a very heavy human toll -- American and Iraqi-- in the war in Iraq.

Bush said Saddam Hussein, the president of Iraq, had weapons of mass destruction and ties to the al Qaida terrorist network. Not so. Bush also claimed that Iraq -- a third world country -- was a threat to the United States, the world’s only military superpower. Not true.

Unfortunately, we heard no shouts from members of Congress that would have disrupted Bush’s litany of lies to the House, the Senate and the American people. Why not?

Most Democratic and Republican lawmakers were spooked by evocations of the 9-11 catastrophe, a tragic image repeatedly conjured up by Bush and Cheney in their campaign to link the attacks to Saddam, even though no Iraqis were involved.

Here’s another fib: Bush said publicly on several occasions: "We do not torture." The president overlooked the fact that the CIA or its subcontractors inflicted waterboarding torture on detainees. During the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, President John F. Kennedy was making a speech in Chicago when he decided to hurry back to Washington. His aides put out the word that he had to rush home to the White House because of a bad "cold." They lied.

In the aftermath, Arthur Sylvester -- then the Pentagon spokesman -- caused a ruckus when he said the government had the right to lie in cases of a possible nuclear crisis. Few presidents are immune from telling tall tales. I have come to believe it goes with the turf.

There are clever end runs and linguistic dodges to avoid outright lies. A "no comment" was always an easy way to avoid the truth trap -- that is, until Kennedy’s press secretary, the late Pierre Salinger, admitted at a briefing that a "no comment" was tantamount to "yes."

The phrase "credibility gap" was coined during the presidency of Lyndon B. Johnson when he expounded on his budget and the Vietnam War.

Nazi propaganda guru Hermann Goebbels said that if you tell a lie often enough, people will come to believe it.

Franklin D. Roosevelt went to Pittsburgh before the start of World War II and promised that the U.S. would not go to war. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor -- when war became inevitable -- he asked his aides what he should say to the American people? They told him: "Say you were never in Pittsburgh."

Truth telling is easier on the conscience and much easier when it comes to keeping your story straight. As the venerable Sen. George Aiken, R-Vt., once said: "If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember what you said the last time."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; bho2009; bho44; democrats; dims; helenthomas; joewilson; liberalmeathead; obama; obamalamadingdong; obamarama; rats; senileoldbat
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last
Good evening!
1 posted on 09/16/2009 5:00:34 PM PDT by seanmerc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: beckysueb; DirtyHarryY2K; holly go-rightly; Jet Jaguar; Lauren BaRecall; LucyT; machogirl; ...
Pleasant dreams, Helen Thomas ping list members! FReepmail me if you'd like to be added to the list.
2 posted on 09/16/2009 5:01:41 PM PDT by seanmerc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

You didn’t post WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES ALERT!


3 posted on 09/16/2009 5:01:47 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

I know the Maureen Dowd rule, but what is the Helen Thomas rule?


4 posted on 09/16/2009 5:03:20 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD. (blood dripping letters here)


5 posted on 09/16/2009 5:03:47 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

6 posted on 09/16/2009 5:04:27 PM PDT by 50mm (AARP is a steaming pile)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Right_Wing_Madman

True; I had to choose between that and the subtitle of her article. Sorry!


7 posted on 09/16/2009 5:04:46 PM PDT by seanmerc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

Arg!!!!! Don’t DO that!


8 posted on 09/16/2009 5:04:58 PM PDT by Raebie (~Never go down with a loaded gun~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LukeL
what is the Helen Thomas rule?

Here it is, step right up!


9 posted on 09/16/2009 5:05:37 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: LukeL

10 posted on 09/16/2009 5:05:50 PM PDT by seanmerc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

LOL, this disgusting old skidmark is still beating the tired “Bush lied” drum!


11 posted on 09/16/2009 5:06:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

Not “for” his rudeness, but in spite of it. Sometimes speaking truth to power trumps decorum.


12 posted on 09/16/2009 5:07:00 PM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: paulycy

Ha! My five-year-old just looked over my shoulder and asked “who’s that crazy lady??” Didn’t quite know how to explain the thing to her...


13 posted on 09/16/2009 5:07:20 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

14 posted on 09/16/2009 5:07:58 PM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 50mm

15 posted on 09/16/2009 5:08:21 PM PDT by 50mm (AARP is a steaming pile)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

16 posted on 09/16/2009 5:08:55 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc
Thank you for posting that picture... NOT!

The sad part is that Helen is much more beautiful on the outside than she is on the inside.

17 posted on 09/16/2009 5:09:34 PM PDT by KevinB (Those who love sausage and respect the law should never watch either being made.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

Hey Helen what about your boy Klinton, “I did not have sex with that women”? That one has to be at least second to Obambi’s from the other night.


18 posted on 09/16/2009 5:09:59 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KevinB

Well, THAT’S a sad commentary, isn’t it?


19 posted on 09/16/2009 5:11:07 PM PDT by seanmerc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: seanmerc

Helen Thomas...proof positive that earlier generations of man engaged in sex with non-mammal species.


20 posted on 09/16/2009 5:11:15 PM PDT by RavenATB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-40 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson