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Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D. N.Y.) is ACORN/ Working Families Party Trojan horse very dangerous
The Collins Report ^ | September 17, 2009 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 09/17/2009 6:05:32 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Kirstin Gillibrand is ACORN’s Trojan horse. She is a hollow soulless being who will help America’s enemies destroy us to stay in power. Tuesday she proved she puts herself above our country.

When the Senate voted 83 to 7 to order HUD to cut off funding for ACORN two thoughts came to mind.

All the “Nos” were Democrats since Democrats are enemies of real America -no surprise to that.

Next there was a name that didn’t “seem” to fit among the “Nos.”

Of course Durbin and Leahy were there but Kirsten Gillibrand (D) NY?

What’s the story? Lurking just beneath the surface is Gillibrand’s connection to the most malignant force in New York and America’s politics, the Working Families Party (WFP).

Before being elected to Congress Gillibrand was a generally apolitical liberal working in Washington, and initially she tried being a Blue Dog, even voting correctly a gun rights issue.

Working Families is ACORN

Gillibrand’s Blue Dog days ended when her Senate seat was handed to her. She promptly sold her soul to the Working Families Party the anti American political arm of ACORN.

When she voted to continue funding ACORN, a group could end up being collapsed as a RICO organization, she was ORDERED to by the Working Families Party.

Gillibrand voted to give herself campaign money through the WFP.

This site warned about the Working Families Party two weeks ago explaining it has worked for ACORN to take over the NYC Council. In NYC’s Democrat primary Tuesday WFP backed candidates beat five incumbent Democrat Councilman. Now WFP owns the Council.

Now they want the United States Senate and they’re on their way. Remember this when a candidate steps up against Gillibrand next year. This woman has to be stopped.

(Excerpt) Read more at collinsreport.net ...


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; acorn; coi; corruption; democrats; gillibrand; kirstingillibrand; liberalfascism; marxism; newparty; workingfamiliesparty
The Working Families Party now owns New York City. They will destroy NYC to unionize every job at every level. Taking over Democrat infested cities will be their formula. Gillibrand is not their only purchase, just the first one we've found. Watch for them coming to your town and stop them when they do.
1 posted on 09/17/2009 6:05:33 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

Remember when she represented “conservative” upstate NY?
That’s what CNN was parroted when she was appointed by NY’s governor.

So much for strong 2A rights.
She caved immediately.

And now this.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 6:08:17 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: jmaroneps37
From this past June....

NY-Sen: NYSUT, ACORN PAC Endorse Gillibrand

3 posted on 09/17/2009 6:08:23 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Gillibrand is more proof of why Upstate needs it’s own state.


4 posted on 09/17/2009 6:08:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

...its...


5 posted on 09/17/2009 6:09:09 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: jmaroneps37

Wouldn’t a more descriptive name be the NONWorking Families Party?

It’s looking more and more like the main reason these outfits exist is to scam the system.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 6:12:24 AM PDT by randita (Release ALL the ACORN video now or risk having it deep sixed by Holder.)
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To: jmaroneps37

7 posted on 09/17/2009 6:14:45 AM PDT by blam
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To: jmaroneps37
Gillibrand co-sponsored banning gun registration & trigger lock law in Washington DC

Nothing in any provision of law shall authorize the Mayor, or any governmental authority of the District of Columbia, to prohibit possessing firearms by a person who is allowed to possess firearms under federal law.

Denies the District any authority to enact laws or regulations that discourage or eliminate the private ownership or use of firearms.

Repeals the ban on semiautomatic weapons.

Repeals the District's registration requirement for possession of firearms.

Repeals the trigger lock law.

Maintains the current ban on the possession and control of a sawed-off shotgun, machine gun, or short-barreled rifle. Eliminates criminal penalties for possessing an unregistered firearm.

Specifies exceptions to the prohibition against carrying concealed weapons in the District.

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand knows that in order to run a good Whorehouse, the proprietor needs to be able to protect his or herself from the rest of the neighborhood...Especially while they are burying or digging up the tin box in the backyard.

8 posted on 09/17/2009 6:19:30 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: jmaroneps37

WFP is another ACORN-leviathan, communist party front. And esteemed ‘conservative’ pundits like Charles Krauthammer say the communist threat is so passe as to be nonexistent anymore.


9 posted on 09/17/2009 6:25:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jmaroneps37

Remember John Edwards’ “two Americas”?

He is sort of right:

One America - Poor because of socialism
One America - Wealthy because of capitalism

(Star Parker-originator, I think)


10 posted on 09/17/2009 6:28:01 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: jmaroneps37

Keeping the voters uninformed seems to be the agenda of the media and not just in New York.

All our blue cities are lost and it would seem the federal government is well on it’s way to being lost to real America.

No thank you, Obama.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 6:30:15 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: jmaroneps37

>>> Working Families Party (WFP). <<<<

As an addendum, this is the group that organized and bussed its “members” for the harassment of AIG bonus recipients at their private residences in Connecticut.


12 posted on 09/17/2009 6:49:24 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

It all became about her, she got a taste of that money, power and prestige and wanted more.

It is human nature, that is why we need term limits with limits on lobbying too.


13 posted on 09/17/2009 6:50:49 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: 9YearLurker

“”WFP is another ACORN-leviathan, communist party front. And esteemed ‘conservative’ pundits like Charles Krauthammer say the communist threat is so passe as to be nonexistent anymore.””

We need to know all the affiliates of ACORN - I heard there are more than 200 of them.

I’m surprised at the comment by Krauthammer - seems to be the same position O’Reilly takes which is pretty naive - that is, when he takes a position on anything. We don’t see the threat coming from Russia - we see the threat of communism in our own country and congress. Why is that so implausible?


14 posted on 09/17/2009 6:53:41 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: 9YearLurker

>>> And esteemed ‘conservative’ pundits like Charles Krauthammer say the communist threat is so passe as to be nonexistent anymore. <<<<

The Soviet Union’s Communism is passe. The Peoples Republic Of China Communism is passe...

... but ...

The indigenous American Communism of Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Wade Rathke, ACORN, SEIU, WFP, Community Organizations International, Congressional “Progressive Caucus”, and 1,000+ related entities is alive and well and getting stronger (politically) every day.


15 posted on 09/17/2009 6:55:10 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: jmaroneps37

As long as “citizens” know they can vote money out of the govt till to their own advantage, they will. Let’s return to being a small govt republic with very little govt money to be suckled and these leaches will go learn a trade or die. Millions of illegals wouldn’t do whatever they could to sneak in if there wasn’t big money benefits (from their perspective) just waiting for the taking.

Don’t believe the malignant lie that taxes go to help poor people, taxes go to fund the destruction of Capitalism and American liberty.


16 posted on 09/17/2009 6:59:27 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the World Dances With You!)
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To: jmaroneps37

Aren’t most or all of the “no” votes Senators who are NOT up for re-election in ‘10?


17 posted on 09/17/2009 7:13:52 AM PDT by RockinRight (9/12/09 - the day the sh*t hit the fan)
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To: jmaroneps37

She must have ties to Steven Kest the former Director of ACORN in Brooklyn, and later ACORN Executive Director, who was the brains behind the creation of the Working Families Party in 1988. That party was an unabashed effort to create a party on the far left, and move the Democrat Party in that direction. It has done just that.


18 posted on 09/17/2009 7:22:45 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: jmaroneps37; All
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Obama, ACORN, the (Marxist) New Party and the Working Family Party (an Acorn front group)
numerous sources

Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 11:08:18 AM EDT by ETL:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2337249/posts

19 posted on 09/17/2009 7:54:04 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: angkor
The Soviet Union’s Communism is passe. The Peoples Republic Of China Communism is passe...

Bullsh*t.

20 posted on 09/17/2009 8:12:44 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: jmaroneps37

biggovernment.com has an article up on WFP that might interest you.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/17/working-families-party-acorn-what-will-ag-cuomo-do/


21 posted on 09/17/2009 8:20:59 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: ETL

Cool it with your profanity.


22 posted on 09/17/2009 8:31:27 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: angkor

Cool it with your ignorance. Some people here might actually believe that nonsense.


23 posted on 09/17/2009 8:40:09 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: angkor

I of course agree with you 100% on the rest of what you wrote:

“The indigenous American Communism of Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Wade Rathke, ACORN, SEIU, WFP, Community Organizations International, Congressional “Progressive Caucus”, and 1,000+ related entities is alive and well and getting stronger (politically) every day.”


24 posted on 09/17/2009 8:42:49 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

>>> Cool it with your ignorance. Some people here might actually believe that nonsense. <<<<

Man, you are completely obnoxious. And thick.

Are you like that everywhere? Or just when you’re hiding behind your keyboard?


25 posted on 09/17/2009 8:45:03 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: angkor
BTW: "Reverend" Wright is a revolutionary communist as well. See my FR Home page for all you'll ever need or want to know about his "Black Liberation Theology".

Hint...

"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

26 posted on 09/17/2009 8:46:12 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Please don’t ping me in any more of your posts.

Ever.


27 posted on 09/17/2009 8:49:06 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: jmaroneps37
Careful everybody! She was appointed by Paterson.

Ergo, if you disagree with Gillibrand, you are a racist. It's obvious that you're only against her because she was appointed to the position by a black man.

Of course, you could get hit with a double-whammy. You could also be anti-women because you disagree with her.

My head's spinning...time for more coffee.

28 posted on 09/17/2009 8:49:47 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: angkor
The Peoples Republic Of China Communism is passe...

The ChiComs are far from done with Communism.

Communist Party goes modern
By Antoaneta Bezlova
Nov 16, 2002

BEIJING - China's Communist Party - the world's largest political movement, with 66 million members - has bid to cast off its harsh image as a revolutionary party committed to violent class struggle in favour of the more mellow image of a conventional ruling party.

At its week-long congress that ended on Friday, the Party redefined itself from the "revolutionary vanguard of the proletariat" to a representative party of the whole nation, embracing capitalists - the class enemies it loathed in the past - and electing a younger generation of leaders.

Hu Jintao, 59, an enigmatic party apparatchik who, under the outgoing party chief Jiang Zemin was deputy general secretary and vice president, heads the new party leadership.

The Politburo Standing Committee, China's highest ruling body, was expanded from seven to nine members, all men in their 50s and early 60s who are deeply committed to turning China into an aggressive, high-technology market economy.

Hand-picked by their elders for their manifested zeal in keeping the Communist Party in power, the new leaders pledged to adhere to Marxism, Leninism, Mao Zedong thought and Deng Xiaoping theory for "a long time to come".

But, added new party chief Hu Jintao, the new leadership will also work hard to "project a fine image of a party that advances with its times". ..."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/DK16Ad02.html

29 posted on 09/17/2009 8:58:23 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: angkor

When the hell have I once pinged you? I don’t even recognize your ID.


30 posted on 09/17/2009 8:59:24 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

To: angkor

26 posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:46:12 AM by ETL

Please stop. Do not type “angkor” into the “To:” box when posting anything.

Thank you.


31 posted on 09/17/2009 9:20:11 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: jmaroneps37

There is a whole network of ACORN, SEIU groups. Shadow government determined to change the face of America forever.


32 posted on 09/17/2009 9:21:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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The Soviet Union’s Communism is passe.

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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html


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Photos are from the 2008 "Victory Day" parade in Moscow:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22russia%22%22parade%22%222008%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2
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Russian nuclear bombers in Cuba?
July 23, 2008

The media has been abuzz today at the prospect of Russian nuclear bombers being stationed in Cuba if the US goes ahead with plans for missile defense bases in Eastern Europe.

The story has riled the US enough that a US general has been wheeled out to tell the world’s press that any Russian attempt to build another nuclear base in Cuba would cross US “red line”.

The story broke earlier this week, when Russian newspaper Izvestia quoted an un-named source from within the Russian military. He told the Russian daily:

“While they are deploying the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, our strategic bombers will already be landing in Cuba.”

The quote hasn’t been independently confirmed, but the Russian Defense Ministry added fuel to the fire when they refused to comment on the story.

The prospect of Russian nuclear forces being stationed in Cuba - which is, after all, only 90 miles from the US coast - would bring back some rather unpleasant memories for the US of the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, where the Soviet Union under Nikita Kruschev launched an audacious and foolhardy bid to station nuclear missiles on the Caribbean island.

http://www.siberianlight.net/2008/07/23/russian-nuclear-bombers-cuba/
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Russia and the ChiComs have been holding joint war games every other year since 2005. The latest apparently took place on July 22-27 of this year.

"Russia and China will hold their joint military exercise on July 22-27 on the territories of the two countries. About 3,000 military men, 300 units of military hardware, over 40 planes and helicopters will take part in Peace Mission-2009 drills. About 1,500 servicemen, T-80 tanks, BMP-1 and BTR-70 armored vehicles, 22 aircraft, including two Il-76 cargo planes, five Su-24, five Su-25, five Su-27 fighters and five Mi-8 helicopters will represent Russia in the drills."

http://www.russiansentry.com/?area=postView&id=1409
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Russia, China hold Peace Mission 2009 joint exercise

The exercise involves about 3,000 Russian and Chinese servicemen, nearly 300 units of army military equipment and over 40 fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters. Photo: BMP-86A infantry fighting vehicles of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) of China.

http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090724/155604547.html
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[2009] Russia, China plan new joint military exercises

By MARTIN SIEFF, UPI Senior News Analyst
Published: March 26, 2009

WASHINGTON, March 26 (UPI) -- The continuing tensions over Russia's refusal to sell its state-of-the-art land warfare advanced weapons systems to China hasn't interrupted the rhythm of major joint military exercises between the two major land powers on the Eurasian landmass. The latest in the regular, biennial series of exercises between the two nations has been confirmed for this summer.

The next in the now well-established series of exercises called Peace Mission 2009 will be carried out in northeastern China, the Russian Defense Ministry announced March 18, according to a report carried by the RIA Novosti news agency.

The first bilateral Peace Mission maneuvers -- described at the time as counter-terrorism exercises -- were held in Russia and the eastern Chinese province of Shandong in August 2005. As we reported at that time, they were a lot bigger than mere counter-terrorism exercises. Warships, squadrons of combat aircraft and more than 10,000 troops were involved carrying out landings against hypothetically hostile shores. The maneuvers also involved large-scale paratroops drops. The scale and nature of those exercises suggested a trial run for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan with Russian support. ..."

http://www.upi.com/Security_Industry/2009/03/26/Russia_China_plan_new_joint_military_exercises/UPI-25021238094858/
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Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
August 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
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War Games: Russia, China Grow Alliance
September 23, 2005

In foreign policy it’s critical to “know thine enemy.” So American policymakers should be aware that Russia and China are inching closer to identifying a common enemy — the United States.

The two would-be superpowers held unprecedented joint military exercises Aug. 18-25. Soothingly named “Peace Mission 2005,” the drills took place on the Shandong peninsula on the Yellow Sea, and included nearly 10,000 troops. Russian long-range bombers, the army, navy, air force, marine, airborne and logistics units from both countries were also involved.

Moscow and Beijing claim the maneuvers were aimed at combating terrorism, extremism and separatism (the last a veiled reference to Taiwan), but it’s clear they were an attempt to counter-balance American military might.

Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed092605a.cfm
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Venezuela Set to Develop Nuclear Power With Russia
September 29, 2008
CARACAS, Venezuela — President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that Russia will help Venezuela develop nuclear energy — a move likely to raise U.S. concerns over increasingly close cooperation between Caracas and Moscow.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,429441,00.html
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Venezuela's Chavez welcomes Russian warships
Nov 25, 2008
LA GUAIRA, Venezuela – Russian warships arrived off Venezuela's coast Tuesday in a show of strength aimed at the United States as Moscow seeks to expand its influence in Latin America. The deployment is the first of its kind in the Caribbean since the Cold War and was timed to coincide with President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to Caracas — the first ever by a Russian president.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22Venezuela%27s+Chavez+welcomes+Russian+warships%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

More Yahoo search results for Russia and Venezuela connections:
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu_X30pZJCJEAfCtXNyoA?p=Russia+Venezuela+bombers+tanks+arms&y=Search&fr=404_news
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html

33 posted on 09/17/2009 9:26:07 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: angkor
Do not type “angkor” into the “To:” box when posting anything.

I didn't "type" your name in as in pinging you from one thread to another. I responded to one of your post here on this thread. No need to type anything in the To field to do that. I was simply trying to educate you a bit on Wright's "Black Liberation Theology". You apparently didn't know much about it since you left Wright off your list of commies linked to Obama.

34 posted on 09/17/2009 9:41:47 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

For the third time, please stop.


35 posted on 09/17/2009 9:51:15 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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Good friggin grief...


36 posted on 09/17/2009 9:54:27 AM PDT by ETL (ALL the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: jmaroneps37

bttt


37 posted on 09/17/2009 10:00:13 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: mewzilla
I agree.

But I thought Hillary ran as their senator on the promise to save upstate NY? Gee, that didn't work out? /sarc

38 posted on 09/17/2009 11:30:55 AM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: jmaroneps37

btt


39 posted on 09/17/2009 10:14:27 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: jmaroneps37

Bookmark


40 posted on 09/17/2009 10:16:29 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: ETL
Good friggin grief..
The cluemeter is reading zero... :-)
41 posted on 09/18/2009 6:57:20 AM PDT by PrairieDawg (I wonder - do the dead voters from NYC outnumber the upstate voters...?)
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To: PrairieDawg

Lol! Less than zero - negative!


42 posted on 09/18/2009 7:02:38 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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