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Court Throws Out Indiana Voter ID Law
theindychannel.com ^ | September 17, 2009

Posted on 09/17/2009 7:47:19 AM PDT by Abathar

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To: Marty62; All

I read this the same way ... a lower court attempting to overthrow SCOTUS. I guess legal gridlock would favor the left, if it occurs.

So, the key question then ...

WAS THE 2008 ELECTION THE LAST FREE ELECTION IN THE US?

(secondary question, quite obvious, I will leave unstated)


41 posted on 09/17/2009 8:03:16 AM PDT by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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To: Nobel_1

Neutering ACORN might give us a couple more semi-legitimate elections.

Maybe that will be enough to turn things around.

If not, there’s always the “next box of liberty”.


42 posted on 09/17/2009 8:04:28 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: ArrogantBustard
How dare you question it, you ignorant peon?

Because I am just that! ;^)

43 posted on 09/17/2009 8:04:50 AM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: sitetest

Oops.
My bad.
You are correct. It was 7-2 and it was “decisive”.


44 posted on 09/17/2009 8:05:59 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Nobel_1

Obviously there is an open attempt to destroy ALL 3 branches of the American Contitutional Government.
Actually I now believe that this HCR is a diversion, the true goal may be the total destruction of the Constitution.
The three branches of Government are is serious jeopardy.


45 posted on 09/17/2009 8:06:52 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Abathar

What part of the constitution does this violate?!

No one knows who you vote for, just that you are who you say you are, and that you live in the district that you are voting in.

I need to present ID to get into a bar, and I’m in my 30s!


46 posted on 09/17/2009 8:07:14 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: Abathar
The decision comes after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the state's voter ID law in 2008, a week before the presidential primary, in a splintered 6-3 ruling.

A 6-3 vote is "splintered"?

47 posted on 09/17/2009 8:07:54 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: Marty62

The USSC rejected the original appeal on specific grounds (the grounds that were entered in the appeal).
The appellate court is using different grounds, this time.

This happens all the time.


48 posted on 09/17/2009 8:08:09 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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INDIANAPOLIS — The Indiana Court of Appeals has ruled that Indiana’s voter identification law is unconstitutional because of the way absentee voting handled.

In the unanimous, 29-page ruling, the court said it tossed out the law because in-person voters are treated differently than those who submit absentee ballots.

In-person voters are required to show a photo identification to prove who they are, but there are no requirements for an affidavit from mail-in voters.

“A less stringent requirement for absentee voters than for those voting in person would not be reasonable,” the court opined in its ruling.

The ruling cited “inconsistent and partial treatment favoring absentee voters who choose to mail their votes” as the primary reason for its decision.

The appeals court decision comes after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the state’s voter ID law in 2008, a week before the presidential primary, in a splintered 6-3 ruling.

Backers of the law said it curbs voter fraud. Those against the law contend that it keeps poor, older and minority voters from casting ballots.

The law passed in 2005 with the ardent support of Gov. Mitch Daniels and most other Republicans in state government.
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If I am reading this it seems they think the law is too lenient to absentee ballots, not too strict on in-person voters, their might be hope yet. If the state wants to make it harder to absentee vote I say go for it.


49 posted on 09/17/2009 8:09:47 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Ok, so the SCOTUS will have to decide again whether to take the case. Thanks for the clarification.


50 posted on 09/17/2009 8:11:51 AM PDT by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Abathar
It makes perfect sense.
After all, why should voters have to prove who they are, when the people running for office don't...
51 posted on 09/17/2009 8:12:04 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Abathar

I don’t understand this. Anyone have more information?


52 posted on 09/17/2009 8:13:09 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Liberals have an inability to value good character or to desire it for themselves.)
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To: Abathar

We have a winner !!!


53 posted on 09/17/2009 8:13:45 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: ConservativeMind

see #49


54 posted on 09/17/2009 8:14:01 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: brytlea
You wrote: I hate to have the Feds involved in things, but for national elections we need a federal law that requires voter ID. If the state doesn’t like it, fine, they don’t have to do it, and their votes will not be included in the tally. For their state elections, I guess they can do whatever stupid thing their citizens will allow.

Yes, I too hate to have the Feds involved ... from there we disagree. In our REPUBLIC the Feds have shown a consistent tendency to use any excuse to grab power from the states - I don't want to give them another one.

In my opinion this demonstrates the really remarkable foresight of the founders in creating the electoral college - it is not perfect, but it does somewhat limit the damage an individual state can inflict on the republic with lousy election laws. Although laws that enable fraud impact one state, we at least do not leave the fate of the republic totally in the hands of, say, California - where they could let illegals vote and overwhelm the rest of the country in the popular vote.

I say - leave the voting laws in the hands of the states. It is the right of the people of the several states to pass laws consistent with the Constitution. As long as provisions are made for those whose religious beliefs rule out photos, and photo ids are provided free to those who have no driver's license, there should be no constitutional issue - and paying for those IDs is a small cost compared to being effectively disenfranchised by illegal voting.

55 posted on 09/17/2009 8:14:22 AM PDT by In Maryland ("Impromptu Obamanomics is getting scarier by the day ..." - Caroline Baum)
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To: Abathar

Solution = eliminate absentee voting.


56 posted on 09/17/2009 8:14:42 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: Abathar
Those against the law contend that it keeps poor, older and minority voters as well as other Democrat "base" constituencies such as imprisoned felons, illegal immigrants, and the dead from casting ballots.

Fixed.

57 posted on 09/17/2009 8:16:18 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Abathar
Those against the law contend that it keeps poor, older and minority voters from casting ballots.

Hmmm. The universal death care package requires a health care I.D. card.

OMG! The health care agenda is unconstitutional, too! They'll need a card! What about the poor, older and minority people who want free health care? I guess they're screwed!!!

Someone call the White House!!

58 posted on 09/17/2009 8:17:42 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: allmendream
Judges have the responsibility of overturning unconstitutional laws.

I must have missed that every time I read the constitution. And so did the founders and everyone else for the first couple generations of the American republic.

Sorry, but your defense of this invented liberal usurpation of legislative power fails. Notice that you did not actually cite where this power supposedly lies. I'll answer it for you:

READ THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE BODY OF THE CONSTITUTION:

All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

That's Article 1, Section 1, Sentence 1. What part of "legislative powers" don't you understand?

59 posted on 09/17/2009 8:19:08 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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To: Abathar

November 26, 2007 — WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) today released the following statement on the Supreme Court amicus brief to challenge the constitutionality of the Indiana Voter ID Law currently before the Supreme Court, which he has signed.

The brief, originally filed by Congressman Keith Ellison and supported by the entire Congressional Black Caucus, argues that the Indiana law is unconstitutional because it is effectively a poll tax and therefore violates the 24th Amendment.

http://allamericanpatriots.com/48738002_barack_obama_barack_obama_indiana_voter_id_law_unconstitutional


60 posted on 09/17/2009 8:20:48 AM PDT by Haddit
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