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My advise to the Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley - TURN YOUR WATER ON!
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | September 17, 2009 | Jeff Head

Posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head

Here we go again.

I was watching Sean Hannity tonight (9/17/2009), and have been following loosely the situation in the San Joaquin Valley of California with their water crisis over the small Delta Smelt minnow and its endangered species listing.

The Farmers have water rights to that water. There is no legal water rights for that water for a minnow over the farmers. There is only a manufactured judicial legal decision by liberal judges based on junk science and the whims of administrators and bureaucrats that create these incidents based on the Endangered Species Act and a rabid environmental policy.

This is an illegal "taking", and it is unconstitutional on its face. And it simply cannot stand.

This sounds more and more like what happened in the Klamath Basin Water Crisis to farmers of Oregon and northern California in 2001. At that time, the magical fish was the sucker fish...and every farmer in that basin knew that the sucker fish was not endagered and that they did not need a "full" lake to survive. It was junk science being used to push an anti-American environmental agenda then...plain and simple...and it is the same today.

Here is my suggestion to the Farmers and their allies in the San Joaquin Valley.

You have the numbers...many more people actively engaged in the fight than we had in Klamath. In Klamath, there were many meetings with politicians...followed by meetings with "officials" of government agencies. In the end, the result was the same...the water stayed off.

It was not until a few farmers and their allies took control of the headgates and turned the water back on that things began to happen. In that case, only a dozen farmers and their allies were at the gates the next morning when 50-70 armed law enforcement officers came and took the head gates back and again turned off the water.

If we had had 1000 farmers and their allies there that morning, they would not have been able to do so.

As it was, we did not, and so those officers, who had reconnoitered our position through the night, turned the water back off...temporarily.

But that was the spark and by the next afternoon, the farmers and their allies gathered en masse and surrounded the law enforcement officers (most of whom absolutely did not want to be there) and made their life miserable over the course of many weeks.

Ultimately, after the farmers pumped the water in small quanitities, and then siphoned it in larger quantities around the headgates, at a later rally where many hundreds were present, the farmers crossed the line again and penned the government officers in.

Soon thereafter, legal decisions began to change and the crisis was ultimately resolved and returned to the status quo and the farmers got their water.

To this day the Klamath Basin has continued getting enough water to farm.

Now the fight has moved to the much larger and larger producing San Joaquin Valley.

In the end, my advise is simple.

STOP BEING GLAD HANDED BY POLITIICANS AND OFFICIALS.

FIND A WAY TO TURN YOUR WATER ON THEN STAND VIGIL BY THE THOUSANDS AND KEEP IT ON.

Your livelihood, your way of life...YOUR LIBERTY is worth the effort and the risk. And make no mistake, that is exactly what is at stake here.

And make no mistake the rest of America...YOUR livelihood, your way of life, and your liberty by extension is also at stake. For if they can do this to your neighbors there in California and get away with it...they can do it to you.

Once those lines are drawn, and you engage in civil disobedience in this fashion, people will flock to you by the tens of thousands and the administration will be forced to turn things around and magically find, as the Bush administration did before them, the "new science" to support a reversal of their current policy.

God bless you farmers there. God bless all who support you.

In the end, it is your decision. This advise is simply given from one who witnessed the same type of governmental infringement, the same unconstitutional and illegal takings, the same judicial and environmental tyranny that you are experiencing now...and stood with those who did something about it.



TOPICS: Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: cah2o; centralvalley; cvwatercrisis; deltasmelt; drought; endangeredspecies; endangeredspeciesact; environazis; esa; hannity; junkscience; nobama; obamatruthfile; standatklamathfalls; waronthewest; water; waterrights
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So, how's that HOPE and CHANGE working out?

Simple...

INDEPENDENT AMERICAN MOVEMENT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

1 posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:34 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Noumenon; joanie-f; Dukie; Squantos; JohnHuang2; RobFromGa; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; ...

FYI.


2 posted on 09/17/2009 8:26:51 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Bump!


3 posted on 09/17/2009 8:28:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Jeff Head

Bump to read later...


4 posted on 09/17/2009 8:29:08 PM PDT by pollywog (staying...... " Under His Wings" Psalm 91:4)
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To: Jeff Head; CedarDave

Reminds me of the the Milagro Beanfield War.

F*** the feds. Use your land.


5 posted on 09/17/2009 8:30:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Jeff Head

America could be 100% self sustaining if we weren’t afraid of hurting the planet, which is of course a load of bull as the nations we trade with do more to harm the environment to meet our demands.


6 posted on 09/17/2009 8:30:11 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Jeff Head

Algore’s hippy, enviroloonies are afraid they’ll run short of anchovies for their pizzas.


7 posted on 09/17/2009 8:31:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans! "Behaving badly" since April 19, 1775!)
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To: Jeff Head; 1Old Pro; aardvark1; a_federalist; abner; alaskanfan; alloysteel; alfons; ...

Water Rights ping!


8 posted on 09/17/2009 8:32:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Jeff Head
It was not until a few farmers and their allies took control of the headgates and turned the water back on that things began to happen. In that case, only a dozen farmers and their allies were at the gates the next morning when 50-70 armed law enforcement officers came and took the head gates back and again turned off the water.

I remember this story well. The sheriff showed up and read the farmers a writ that said "In the name of the people of...", and the farmers replied 'We *are* the people.'

Sieze control of the valves, and blockade all access to the site. Riot when the law clamps down. Poison the damn fish if you have to.

9 posted on 09/17/2009 8:32:58 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Jeff Head

Same thought came to my mind - there are thousands of people directly affected by this. Do some disobedience and turn those valves on. I doubt the governator would send the National Guard to stop them (heck the Guard would probably help).


10 posted on 09/17/2009 8:33:34 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Jeff Head

I so agree. The Valley is the breadbasket of the world. Turn the water back on.


11 posted on 09/17/2009 8:34:13 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Jeff Head

bttt ,


12 posted on 09/17/2009 8:34:21 PM PDT by piroque
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To: Jeff Head

Now if you could just get this published in their newspaper.....


13 posted on 09/17/2009 8:34:48 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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To: Spirochete
Actually, Sheriff's deputies were with the first bunch of LEO's that came and diverted our attention while the Feds came in the back. I was there. Read about it: HERE

Later, after the outcry got big enough, the Sheriff rescinded his invitation to the Feds to intervene.

14 posted on 09/17/2009 8:35:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: piroque

Maybe they should save a few of those smelts, perhaps in liguid nitrogen. Just so they won’t be really extinct.


15 posted on 09/17/2009 8:35:31 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: LukeL

**America could be 100% self sustaining if we weren’t afraid of hurting the planet,**

sounds nice, but we are talking about KALIFORNEEYA!!


16 posted on 09/17/2009 8:36:28 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (If Policy disagreement is RACISM, You are NOT READY to have a MINORITY as President.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
With Obama and Holder...you never know what they might order.

And they do not know what the response might be.

The point is, unless rights are worth standing for and taking risks for...the libs/socialists/marxists will take them from us all, one group at a time.

17 posted on 09/17/2009 8:37:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

So what was that fisheries guy trying to say about the farmers selling their water to other areas?


18 posted on 09/17/2009 8:37:13 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Jeff Head

Bingo! Grab your torches and pitchforks. March en masse to the pump house. And turn that water on. Period. You've put up with more than you should have to.


19 posted on 09/17/2009 8:37:30 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Jeff Head
They need numbers of people behind them. The state of California should say to heck with the Feds.
Arnold could stay in office for the next 60 years if he went down and personally opened the water gates.
20 posted on 09/17/2009 8:37:33 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: LukeL

While Hannity was there with all the farmers and allies, I wonder if anyone suggested a big ol’ bus caravan of these farmers to DC to march on Congress and park outside the WH gates! How about a turn the water off sign for the WH and Shelly’s garden of produce...how would they like that?


21 posted on 09/17/2009 8:38:04 PM PDT by celtic gal (My Mob name is" Molly Maguire" per Hannity...we all need mob names !)
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To: Jeff Head

I agree, too. Cut that chain and turn that valve. Perhaps that’s where the next march should be.


22 posted on 09/17/2009 8:38:16 PM PDT by mancini
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To: Jeff Head
I am so sick of hearing Gov. Schwarzenegger claim “If I could I would turn the water back on...”

It's really simple, dispatch the National Guard to the valves, turn the water back on, and keep them their until the feds give up.

Pelosi wants this law, let her enforce it!

23 posted on 09/17/2009 8:38:30 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Jeff Head

My thoughts on the water shortage, is that southern California has the responsibility to become more self-reliant. Placing a few nuclear reactors on So-Cal beaches or close by, would provide power for now and the future, and a by-product of millions of gallons of desalinated water.

It angers me that our city planners don’t do any forward thinking whatsoever these days.


24 posted on 09/17/2009 8:38:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Wearing neck brace in commemoration of Ted Kennedy's contribution to our society.)
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To: celtic gal

I like the idea of just taking the pumps by force and forming a people’s army to guard the gate.


25 posted on 09/17/2009 8:39:35 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Jeff Head

Well said!

If the farmers and people supporting them don’t take action the enviro-nazis and the judges in their pockets will win this war as they are with other enviro issues.


26 posted on 09/17/2009 8:39:58 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I do not know all the details on this one. I do know that the farmers have some water rights to the water coming down from the mountains...but those rights are divided up several ways. I am nit sure if it is as clear cut as the farmers in Klamath.

But for the rights they do have, they must stand. The minnow does not have legal rights to it. only judicial decisions based on...in all likelihood and if experience and history serves as any precedent...junk science.

27 posted on 09/17/2009 8:40:17 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

I think Obama, Holder, et al are cowards. Look at how Obama backs down when challenged on anything....Wright, Ayers, Van Jones, etc. He’s a street thug with no leadership abilities and I think his support is getting to be very thin.


28 posted on 09/17/2009 8:40:52 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NewHampshireDuo

That needs some research. So the fishermen are having problems! I wish he would have had the chance to explain from that point of view what that has to do with the farmers not having water.
I wish, too, that Hannity would have pressed him about the water sale to SOCAL.


29 posted on 09/17/2009 8:41:32 PM PDT by celtic gal (My Mob name is" Molly Maguire" per Hannity...we all need mob names !)
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To: Jeff Head

I think the water in the delta is controled by the state water agency.

The water that was shut off not only feeds the farmers but the domestic water supply for all of Southern California.

It’s a hugh pumping system that feeds a canal as big as most rivers.

I doub tthat anyone in a state agency would have the balls to turn on the system against a federal judges order.


30 posted on 09/17/2009 8:41:42 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I doubt Arnold will do anything so couragous. JMHO. But these farmers already have the numbers behind and with them. They are a far, far larger population of individuals than the 1500 farming families in the Klamath Basin. They could organize and have thousands on hand.


31 posted on 09/17/2009 8:41:52 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, Thanks for the article and ping. I drove past this area two weeks ago and was shocked to see what is normally a lush green landscape this time of year...brown with small patches of green...dry dirt brown. There were groves of trees parched and dead or dying...hundreds of acres...many hours of driving. Words don’t adequately describe.

Does remind me of Klamath Falls all over again.


32 posted on 09/17/2009 8:42:35 PM PDT by amom
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To: HereInTheHeartland
And the Hispanic farm worker's union would back him, because without water, there are no farm jobs. ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
33 posted on 09/17/2009 8:44:15 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: Jeff Head

I agree with you 1000%

Massive resistence. Law enforcement doesn’t have the personnel or the funding to deny everybody in the country water for the food we eat, and the San Joaquin Valley supplies a large portion of it.

Not only farmers should be involved. Everyone who buys agricultural products should be there in force.

Whoever controls the water, controls the food. Hope and change isn’t going to fill your belly.


34 posted on 09/17/2009 8:44:59 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Placing a few nuclear reactors on So-Cal beaches or close by, would provide power for now and the future, and a by-product of millions of gallons of desalinated water “

LADWP had plans for 10 reactors on the coast in the 60s anf the environmentalists shut them off then.

If they couldn’t get them approved 50 years ago there’s no chance today!


35 posted on 09/17/2009 8:45:45 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: gwilhelm56

The endangered species act is FEDERAL, not state, but I quess you don’t know that.


36 posted on 09/17/2009 8:45:55 PM PDT by mefistofelerevised
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To: Jeff Head

Was it my imagination, or did the crowd boo every time the RAT congresscritter tried to speak?


37 posted on 09/17/2009 8:45:55 PM PDT by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: editor-surveyor; Jeff Head; AuntB; SierraWasp; hattend; amom
Thanks editor-surveyor for the ping. I remember well the days at the headgate. People have to move on this issue! The government is not your friend! You will have to fight for what is rightfully yours. Enviro-whacko's dont give a damn about the environment, nor have they ever. The only thing they care about is control!

STOP BEING GLAD HANDED BY POLITIICANS AND OFFICIALS.

FIND A WAY TO TURN YOUR WATER ON THEN STAND VIGIL BY THE THOUSANDS AND KEEP IT ON.

Your livelihood, your way of life...YOUR LIBERTY is worth the effort and the risk. And make no mistake, that is exactly what is at stake here.

And make no mistake the rest of America...YOUR livelihood, your way of life, and your liberty by extension is also at stake. For if they can do this to your neighbors there in California and get away with it...they can do it to you.

38 posted on 09/17/2009 8:48:14 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: Jeff Head

This is just like the 2001 water crisis. The government taking water that doesn’t belong to them.

Thanks for the thread, Jeff.


39 posted on 09/17/2009 8:48:38 PM PDT by JustAmy (Republicans think everyday is July 4th. Democrats think everyday is April 15th.)
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To: Jeff Head
“They could organize and have thousands on hand.”

Do that and turn the valves on with a huge crowd around. The Feds then move in to stop them. All the while the media is covering the growing scene.

Obama seems to cave when his actions are exposed to masses of Americans.
It might work.

40 posted on 09/17/2009 8:48:51 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: dalereed

Dale, I think it’s time the power utilities use some of their millions and beat these idiots to a pulp in court. We need power. We need water.

The left can go —— themselves.


41 posted on 09/17/2009 8:49:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Wearing neck brace in commemoration of Ted Kennedy's contribution to our society.)
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To: Jeff Head
Are these farmers liberals?

42 posted on 09/17/2009 8:50:44 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks for the ping.

Turn the water on!!!

Food grows where water flows.


43 posted on 09/17/2009 8:51:22 PM PDT by JustAmy (Republicans think everyday is July 4th. Democrats think everyday is April 15th.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Is it possible, that applying the same type of pressure that was used for the Acorn and Van Jones issues would work?
(calling congressmen, twittering, emails, Fox News coverage- and fringe media maybe - I bet Lou Dobbs would cover it.)

One of the things that was very impressive about exposing Acorn was the website created - big government. There must have been an effort by bloggers out there to write on their blogs about it too.

Maybe those other groups that were involved in the DC march like Freedom Works, etc, could be contacted to join in the effort.


44 posted on 09/17/2009 8:51:23 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: HereInTheHeartland; Issaquahking
OBAMA - THROW THE MINNOW UNDER THE BUS!
45 posted on 09/17/2009 8:52:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Issaquahking

Pass it around Rocky. Use your contacts and lets get the network going.


46 posted on 09/17/2009 8:52:56 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: gwilhelm56
“sounds nice, but we are talking about KALIFORNEEYA!!”

You do realize it's the Feds imposing this idiocy on the good people of California against strong resistance??

47 posted on 09/17/2009 8:52:56 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: Whenifhow

It worked in Klamath.


48 posted on 09/17/2009 8:53:48 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: freespirited

They did boo everytime the RAT spoke. I thought the guy in the middle was having a hard time to keep from bursting out laughing.


49 posted on 09/17/2009 8:55:46 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I DON”T SEE SACRAMENTO bringing in the NATIONAL GUARD.. KALIFORNEEYA IS just as Culpable as the FEDS


50 posted on 09/17/2009 8:56:08 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (If Policy disagreement is RACISM, You are NOT READY to have a MINORITY as President.)
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