First U.S. H1N1 vaccines will be nasal spray: CDC

reuters ^ | 9/18/09 | Maggie Fox

[dangerdoc]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The first roll-out of vaccines against the new swine flu virus will be 3.4 million doses of MedImmune's needle-free nose spray, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on Friday. The CDC's Dr Jay Butler said the vaccines would be distributed the first week of October. "Initially we anticipate that 3.4 million doses of vaccine will be available," Butler told a telephone briefing. "We estimate that the amount of vaccine that will be available will increase through October." He said eventually delivery would rise to about 20 million doses a week. The United States has ordered 195 million doses of H1N1 swine flu vaccine from five companies -- MedImmune, a unit of AstraZeneca, Sanofi-Aventis, Australia's CSL, GlaxoSmithKline and Novartis.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Flu snorts

[the anti-liberal]

"MedImmune's needle-free nose spray"

Somebody's making some dough off of this.

Does the spray come with a martial law order?

[Talisker]

The first vaccines are the hardest to get people to take. After that, why, people will just look more and more forward to the absolute joy of receiving that which makes everything - absolutely everything - seem so much better and under control, and clear and defined, and correct and obedient, and comfortably compliant, and instructive, and may I have my next vaccine now?

[BuffaloJack]

> Does the spray come with a martial law order?

NO, snort first. Martial Law later, when we all get sick.

[netmilsmom]

Before they shove it up my nose, they can shove it where the sun don’t shine.

[La Enchiladita]

Just say No. Don’t do it, either via nose or needle.

This is not an extraordinary flu strain, just the usual, according to several medical and scientific sources.

[the anti-liberal]

Actually, that’s very plausible. Scary.

[mysterio]

I’m sure the anti-vaccine zealot nutball woo-woos will be just as afraid of the inhaled vaccine.

[the anti-liberal]

Especially scary is how they want to reduce population size in order to save the planet.

Wouldn't surprise me if "something goes wrong" with the vaccine, causing deaths.

Martial Law for 0 would just be his icing on the cake.

[verity]

“Before they shove it up my nose, they can shove it where the sun don’t shine.”

Does this mean you will be receiving yours up your anal orifice?

[dangerdoc]

Now that’s just crazy talk.

[dangerdoc]

I was curious.

[the anti-liberal]

It is crazy talk - but with this administration, crazy happens every day.

[dawn53]

I hope they make it clear to those taking it that the mists are “live” virus forms of vaccine. I have MS, and the NMSS definitely warns against taking a live virus vaccine. The killed vaccines are okay.

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/news/news-detail/index.aspx?nid=147

[goodwithagun]

You aren’t concerned that they haven’t released the ingredient list? For example I can’t have MSG, and that is in some brands of flu shots. It is important to know what they want to inject/spray into us.

[mysterio]

I get the flu shot every year. The main risk is one GBS case per million doses. Compared with 34,000 deaths and 200,000 hospitalizations per year from flu, the risk is acceptable.

You can't have MSG? That's not just the flu shot; that's a LOT of different foods as well. How much MSG sets it off?

The H1N1 vaccine is being tested now, and it is being made in the same manner as the standard shot. Had it appeared several months earlier, it would have just been another component of the standard shot. If you've had the regular flu shot before, the H1N1 should be about the same for you.

[La Enchiladita]

People still have a choice as to whether they take vaccines or not. Do you want the flu vaccination to be mandatory and forced? That’s scary.

I have never taken a flu shot in my life and don’t plan to. I like having the freedom to make the choice.

[taxcontrol]

I am very pro-vaccine but will not be taking this one until a few million others have tried it first and we have seen some of the results.

[goodwithagun]

Yes, for me it causes heart a-fib. It has to be in high doses, like Chinese food and broths/stocks from the grocery store. However, the MSG would be put directly into my bloodstream with a shot. I’m not willing to take that chance. I’m getting over the flu now. I’ve had it for 24 hours and I’ve successfully fought it off with probiotics and hydrogen peroxide laced nasal rinses.

[mysterio]

Do you want the flu vaccination to be mandatory and forced?

No.

I have never taken a flu shot in my life and don’t plan to.

Cool.

[mysterio]

I am very pro-vaccine but will not be taking this one until a few million others have tried it first and we have seen some of the results.

That's reasonable. However, the only difference between this vaccine and the regular one is the strain of dead virus. Or attenuated virus in the case of the inhaled version.

[mysterio]

Hope that you feel better soon.

[netmilsmom]

LOL!
I guess I did word that wrong.

I think I’ll skip it all together.

[netmilsmom]

>>I’m sure the anti-vaccine zealot nutball woo-woos will be just as afraid of the inhaled vaccine.<<

Which “anti-vaccine zealot nutball woo-woos” are you talking about?

Your words sure open the debate! /s/

[Raebie]

24 hours? You’re very lucky. I’ve had it for a week now and still feel like total crap.

[The Comedian]

Up your nose with an untested, undocumented, mandated hose.

[Alter Kaker]

Wouldn't surprise me if "something goes wrong" with the vaccine, causing deaths.

Flu vaccines come out every year. Nobody dies. You're a little paranoid, I'm afraid. People DO die from the actual flu, however.

[Alter Kaker]

People still have a choice as to whether they take vaccines or not. Do you want the flu vaccination to be mandatory and forced? That’s scary.

Not for H1N1, but for a more serious pandemic, absolutely. We used to quarantine people with communicable diseases -- you simply do not have a right to infect and possibly kill other people. Typhoid Mary went to jail, as she should have.

[goodwithagun]

Probiotics. They are expensive but very worth the price. I take them daily and then increase the amount when I start feeling poorly. This is the first time in two years that I have been sick. I swear by probiotics.

[dangerdoc]

It may be too late for me. Woke up not feeling great. Upset stomach when I post the article. Nasal drainage, and body aches kicking in now.

We’ve been seeing flu here for a couple of weeks.

I’d much rather get the vaccine than the flu.

[the anti-liberal]

I didn’t say something will go wrong, merely that it wouldn’t surprise me if something did - a snide remark on my opinion of the fascist in chief.

[The Comedian]

I’d much rather get the vaccine than the flu.

I'd much rather get the flu than Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

[rigelkentaurus]

I’m getting the regular flu shot this year, like I do every year. But, I am not on board with the H1N1 vacine - not taking it.

Don’t trust the government, feel it has been rushed, and there is not a pressing need for me to avoid H1N1.

[dangerdoc]

“I’d much rather get the flu than Guillain-Barre Syndrome.”

I’ve never seen Guillain-Barre. We just had a healthy 20 year old die of the swine flu today.

Go figure.

[mysterio]

Which “anti-vaccine zealot nutball woo-woos” are you talking about?

The ones who come onto every thread with BS like "I'm just going to get the flu, that vaccine is deadly!"

And their immunology background consists of .

[mysterio]

I'd much rather get the flu than Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

Lucky you. You're much more likely to.

[Scythian]

Don't Inject Me

[The Comedian]

I’ve never seen Guillain-Barre. We just had a healthy 20 year old die of the swine flu today.

I'm sorry to hear that. Engineered bio-weapons tend to be nasty that way.

Vitamin D3, garlic, 2 grams of vitamin C, and echinacea, every day. And have plenty of Benadryl on hand to fight hypercytokinemia.

[dangerdoc]

“I’m sorry to hear that. Engineered bio-weapons tend to be nasty that way.”

I’m sorry do you want to rephrase that?

May I be bold enough to ask who you think did the engineering?

[netmilsmom]

>>The ones who come onto every thread with BS like “I’m just going to get the flu, that vaccine is deadly!”

So if a person says that he/she doesn’t want a vaccine, you label them?

[Kakaze]

The ones who come onto every thread with BS like "I'm just going to get the flu, that vaccine is deadly!"

Get injected with whatever you choose too.

my personal experience, 3 flu shots in the Air Force and I never have been sicker in my life.

If, which is rare I get anything I burn a fever for 12 hours, sleep through it and its gone.

I'm just going with my own personal experience.

[mysterio]

So if a person says that he/she doesn’t want a vaccine, you label them?

No. It's your decision to get the shot or not get the shot.

If that person tries to convince other people not to get the vaccine using misinformation, however, they are one step closer to being labeled a woo-woo.

[mysterio]

my personal experience, 3 flu shots in the Air Force and I never have been sicker in my life.

Are you allergic to eggs? Were the three shots given over the course of three flu seasons? Detail the symptoms and the course of the illness(es) that you experienced after the flu shot.

[Kakaze]

No allergy to eggs, 3 flu seasons and told to get in line and get a shot.

I have no idea what was really in the vile, I just know it knocked me off flight status,sick as a dog for a week ( '89, 90 91 ) and as a kid never sick ( as in flu ) or since never sick, rarely I get a high fever burn it off over night and go on.

So you can see my aversion to the shot.

[dangerdoc]

I’ve taken about 24 consecutive flu shots. A little muscle soreness but otherwise fine.

That being said, I recieved vaccinations in the service that knocked me on my butt. Are you sure you weren’t getting cholera, yellow fever, dengue or other vaccine? I have had chills and sweats for days after some of those shots.

The military will often give you the entire slated list of vaccines when they have a group corraled.

[Kakaze]

I don't know I was 23 and wanted to fly jets .....

They called them flu shots but you never know all what is in the gun.

My symptoms were classic flu....maybe I am a unique situation but that is what happened.

[dangerdoc]

You didn’t piss off the corpsman did you, no telling what you got if you did. ;)

[mysterio]

So you say you got "sick as a dog" for a week after each flu shot. Symptoms?

What you describe is impossible if you're not allergic to egg albumen. Dead flu virus cannot make you sick.

[Kakaze]

You didn’t piss off the corpsman did you, no telling what you got if you did. ;)

Nah lol I got along with them just fine :)

Whatever I was given 3 years straight was not good for me,then again who knows ?

My grandmother always called my dad and myself carriers, we to this day get sick, burn it off with high fever and move on. The only time I ever got layed up in bed besides knee surgery was after those shots.