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White House collects Web users' data without notice
The Washington Times ^ | 16 Sep 2009 | Audrey Hudson

Posted on 09/18/2009 12:11:01 PM PDT by Admiral_Zeon

The White House is collecting and storing comments and videos placed on its social-networking sites such as Facebook, Twitter and YouTube without notifying or asking the consent of the site users, a failure that appears to run counter to President Obama's promise of a transparent government and his pledge to protect privacy on the Internet.

Marc Rotenberg, president of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said the White House signaled that it would insist on open dealings with Internet users and, in fact, should feel obliged to disclose that it is collecting such information.

"The White House has not been adequately transparent, particularly on how it makes use of new social media techniques, such as this example," he said.

Defenders of the White House actions said the Presidential Records Act requires that the administration gather the information and that it was justified in taking the additional step of asking a private contractor to "crawl and archive" all such material. Nicholas Shapiro, a White House spokesman, declined to say when the practice began or how much the new contract would cost.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; biggovernment; facebook; freedomofspeech; myspace; obama; spy
Alot of attention got brought to the White House program to track dissent of Obamacare. This is far worse.
1 posted on 09/18/2009 12:11:01 PM PDT by Admiral_Zeon
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To: Admiral_Zeon

Maybe it is....
but just maybe the SHTF before he gets a chance to use the info.


2 posted on 09/18/2009 12:13:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

I await the so called media and the ACLU, to jump right on this

ARF

like they did with Van jones
Spending
ACORN
Miranda rights
dropping charges against black racists
etc
etc
etc

the so called media
ACLU
SPLC

have all lost their minds, even so far as going after a cross put up over 70 years ago in a desert to remember WW1 Vets
It is now being hidden by a piece of wood over it.

This is how pathetic they have become


3 posted on 09/18/2009 12:14:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

4 posted on 09/18/2009 12:14:20 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Admiral_Zeon

There’s a law requiring this kind of disclosure upon Federal paperwork, and I’d expect it to extend to the Web.


5 posted on 09/18/2009 12:16:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Unashamed Sarah-Bot.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Needless to say, it's not just "Facebook, Twitter and YouTube" --if they have the potential to do so they're raking info off yer shopping list on yer fridge door too!!!!!
6 posted on 09/18/2009 12:20:38 PM PDT by gunnyg (SUFFER NO FOOLS -Gunny G)
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To: Admiral_Zeon
Remember folks, this isn't just Obama (I think he's clueless about alot of things). It's the entire Government bureaucracy with tenured, stuck in place bureaucrats who want to control everybody and think they are better than everybody.

"The regular people just don't understand how we work."

Those are the people that need to be kicked out, and they will exist across any and all administrations. If a true conservative got in, they would have to expend a tremendous amount of political capital to clean house, but it needs to be done.

7 posted on 09/18/2009 12:32:34 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: Clock King

You can thank Obama’s Czars. Even Congress doesn’t know what they are doing.


8 posted on 09/18/2009 12:46:31 PM PDT by RC2
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To: OneWingedShark

With all the juveniles using those websites, coule a care for ‘gathering of porn material’ be pushed?


9 posted on 09/18/2009 12:47:15 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Admiral_Zeon

I don’t think you people read the article correctly. If you post a comment on the Whitehouse Facebook page or the Whitehouse Myspace page, you are sending a communication TO THE WHITEHOUSE. Its just like sending them a letter. I believe they are required to keep all communications directed to them. This is not a big deal.


10 posted on 09/18/2009 12:53:12 PM PDT by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: Admiral_Zeon

If he only collects stuff I put on facebook, he’s going to miss the far better (worse) words I send to my POS congresspuke (Driehaus D-rat Ohio) and my POS Senators (Brown D-rat Ohio and RINOVICH R-rat Ohio) on a weekly basis.


11 posted on 09/18/2009 12:54:44 PM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon
I can’t help but think this is a big nothingburger.

Please, someone who thinks this is a problem explain it to me.

The White House sets up an “official” account on youtube.com. They post videos of the President’s weekly addresses there, along with other video of the President an other high ranking officials. Should these postings by white house staff be archived in accordance with the Presidential Records act? If not, why not?

So you view one of these videos. You want to make a text comment, or perhaps you make a video response. You post this response in a public way on the Internet, on the YouTube web site. What level of privacy do you expect? And, is it wrong for the White House to archive correspondence it receives in this manner? You were responding to White House communications on an “official white house account.” Doesn’t the Presidential Records act require that communication to be archived?

Why is this a problem?

It seems they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t here. If they archive the messages received this way, privacy nuts feel it is some kind of invasion of privacy. And if they fail to archive these messages, and they disappear from the internet sites, and someone files a FOIA request for all correspondence and messages received by the white house on a certain topic, they will be screaming “coverup” if the white house officials responding to the FOIA request say, “we don’t archive messages received from youtube, twitter or facebook.”

Here is a clue for you privacy nuts. If you don’t want your communications archived, don’t post them on a publicly available web site.

One thing I would add, though. It would help if the white house placed some text on these official pages that make it clear that they are archiving information left through these channels in accordance with the Presidential Records Act. That way people can at least read what should be incredibly obvious to them if they just think a little bit.


From the desk of
cc2k:

12 posted on 09/18/2009 1:13:31 PM PDT by cc2k (Are you better off today than you were $4,000,000,000,000 ago?)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

I’m gonna hold my breath while the ACLU jumps on this with all fours. . . /sarcasm


13 posted on 09/18/2009 1:45:13 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: stylecouncilor

Whew! I’m safe.


14 posted on 09/18/2009 1:46:36 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: RatRipper

I sent the article to the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation), who knows they might nudge the ACLU /sarcasm


15 posted on 09/18/2009 1:48:45 PM PDT by Admiral_Zeon
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To: Admiral_Zeon

So if I post one of my home videos of my cats in response to a Whitehouse Youtube posting, my cat video will become part of the official government record? My cat videos will be cataloged and permanently stored on government computers? Historians and anthropologists may one day study my cat videos for insight into the prevailing socio-political mood?

Cool!


16 posted on 09/18/2009 2:00:45 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Admiral_Zeon

Thank you for doing that. I will sleep much better tonight. /sarcasm


17 posted on 09/18/2009 2:27:49 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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