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Irving Kristol, Architect of Neoconservatism, Dies at 89
The Washington Post ^ | September 18, 2009 | Adam Bernstein

Posted on 09/18/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by EveningStar

Irving Kristol, 89, a forceful essayist, editor and university professor who became the leading architect of neoconservatism, which he called a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been "mugged by reality," died Friday at the Capital Hospice in Arlington.

He spent much of his career in New York but had for the last two decades lived at the Watergate apartments in the District. He died of complications from lung cancer, said his son, William Kristol, the founder and editor of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: arlingtonva; gertrudehimmelfarb; himmelfarb; irvingkristol; kristol; neocons; neoconservatism; obituary
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1 posted on 09/18/2009 1:13:46 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Why, I think there’s a little tear streaming down my cheek...


2 posted on 09/18/2009 1:15:50 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: EveningStar
I should imagine that when he gets together with Bill Buckley, the conversation should be lively, civil, and very, very good.

No tears for a happy man.

3 posted on 09/18/2009 1:17:28 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: SandWMan

>>which he called a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been “mugged by reality,”

Shouldn’t that read “a political and intellectual movement for liberals to go underground and infiltrate real conservatism”?


4 posted on 09/18/2009 1:18:01 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: EveningStar

God Bless him. But whatever was Neo it was hardly conservative.


5 posted on 09/18/2009 1:18:36 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: EveningStar

As Mark Levin says “when libs say Neocon they really mean The Jews”


6 posted on 09/18/2009 1:21:40 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support Sarah. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/sarahpalin?ref=nf)
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To: ex-snook

The neocons have done a fine job of coopting conservatism, and bending anyone who might have conservative leanings to their point of view.

If only the beast he helped create would die with him.


7 posted on 09/18/2009 1:22:31 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: EveningStar

Was this man Bill Kristol’s father? Not the Harry Met Sally Billy Kristol; the Neo-Con in Washington, DC.

And is Bill Kristol’s mother’s name Gertrude Himmelfarb?


8 posted on 09/18/2009 1:29:35 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: Bryanw92

Yes! You nailed it! Vote Ron Paul!


9 posted on 09/18/2009 1:30:56 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Tucker39

Yes and yes.


10 posted on 09/18/2009 1:33:00 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
..."neoconservatism, which he called a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been "mugged by reality,"

Or as the later generation called it...'a political & intellectual movement for hippies that finally grew up'.smileys

11 posted on 09/18/2009 1:33:51 PM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: EveningStar

God bless and Godspeed, Sir!

His wit, intellect, and revolutionary anti-communist/leftist ideas left the liberals’ brains burnt out and jaws lying on the floor.


12 posted on 09/18/2009 1:34:03 PM PDT by Right-Wing Champion (God Bless the USA- Home of the free, because of the brave.)
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To: All

It looks like the Ron Paul freaks have invaded the thread. :(


13 posted on 09/18/2009 1:40:08 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Alouette; SJackson

ping


14 posted on 09/18/2009 1:41:13 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Irving Kristol was a great intellectual , his move to exposing Marxism and on world affairs.

His wife Gertrude Himmelfarb, another great mind.
Have three of her books.


15 posted on 09/18/2009 1:53:23 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Cinnamon Girl; Yaelle

ping


16 posted on 09/18/2009 1:53:32 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

My condolences to Bill Kristol. The good news is that his father lived a full and extremely productive life. That “been mugged by reality” line by Kristol, is one of the best ever.


17 posted on 09/18/2009 1:53:33 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: EveningStar

RIP Mr. Kristol


18 posted on 09/18/2009 1:54:05 PM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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To: EveningStar

RIP
one of the fathers of the Reagan Revolution


19 posted on 09/18/2009 1:54:21 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: Tucker39

Correct.


20 posted on 09/18/2009 1:54:31 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Bryanw92

Neoconservatism is a blight upon America. It is responsible for the shape we are in today.


21 posted on 09/18/2009 1:56:11 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: ari-freedom
Yes, his supply-side ideas were extremely important.

Why all the bitterness on this thread?

22 posted on 09/18/2009 1:58:12 PM PDT by what's up
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To: SandWMan

Spoken like a true Left Wing loon, newbee


23 posted on 09/18/2009 1:59:38 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

We have a bunch of them on this thread. :(


24 posted on 09/18/2009 2:01:40 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I am no fan of neocons, but if that’s as far as an ex-liberal can come, I’ll take him.


25 posted on 09/18/2009 2:01:51 PM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: what's up
Why all the bitterness on this thread?

Think of the term "neocon" as a vessel into which True Conservatives™ pour all of their frustrations, imagined or not.

As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.

26 posted on 09/18/2009 2:01:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: SoCalPol

No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.


27 posted on 09/18/2009 2:02:42 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: what's up
Why all the bitterness on this thread?

It's just the anti-neocon loons coming up for air.

28 posted on 09/18/2009 2:03:11 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: 1rudeboy
As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.

And usually it will all lead back to one thing......'The Joooooooos.'

29 posted on 09/18/2009 2:03:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SandWMan; SoCalPol
No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

You mean an isolationist?

30 posted on 09/18/2009 2:05:03 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

For my clarification, neocon = RINO?


31 posted on 09/18/2009 2:05:04 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Tucker39
It's Bill Kristol and actor Billy Crystal
32 posted on 09/18/2009 2:06:00 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: mwl8787

It’s good that you made that Kristol Klear. :)


33 posted on 09/18/2009 2:07:03 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: DogBarkTree
As Mark Levin says “when libs say Neocon they really mean The Jews”

Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.

A neoconservative was originally a term used for pro-war liberals, like Joe Lieberman or Rudy Giuliani, who wanted wars for democracy and nation-building. The term has since evolved to basically mean anyone who supports pre-emptive wars.

34 posted on 09/18/2009 2:07:27 PM PDT by GoldStandard
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To: 1rudeboy
As an experiment, try to get them to define it--you'll get a hundred different answers.

Don't ask me to define it. Can't do it.

35 posted on 09/18/2009 2:09:05 PM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: SandWMan
No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?

36 posted on 09/18/2009 2:09:15 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: EveningStar

“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

You mean an isolationist?”

Though the term is generally meant as an insult...yes. But it’s much more than that.


37 posted on 09/18/2009 2:10:34 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: GoldStandard
Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.

That, or maybe Mark Levin still reads Pat Buchanan's work.

38 posted on 09/18/2009 2:10:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

That’s not true. The late IK said

“QUOTE: ‘Ever since I can remember, I’ve been a neo-something: a neo-Marxist, a neo-Trotskyist, a neo-liberal, a neo-conservative; in religion a neo-orthodox even while I was a neo-Trotskyist and a neo-Marxist. I’m going to end up a neo-that’s all, neo dash nothing.’”

And Ron Paul is very explicit and precise in his prescient 2003 critique of neoconservatism:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2970178683925412799&hl=en&emb=1#


39 posted on 09/18/2009 2:12:03 PM PDT by Palin Republic (Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
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To: 1rudeboy

“No, spoken like a true conservative...a real, “old right” conservative.

The ones that favor bigger government and higher taxes?”

No, the ones who favor an almost non-existent government (compared to the behemoth we have today), and lower taxes...preferably no direct taxes at all.


40 posted on 09/18/2009 2:12:40 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: ari-freedom
There is only one FATHER of the Reagan Revolution.

That would be, Ronald Reagan himself!

Irving Kristol was the FATHER of the neoconservative movement. A movement more progressive, aka. liberal, in its nature than conservative.

41 posted on 09/18/2009 2:13:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Palin Republic

Ron Paul? He’s the shrimp-subsidy guy, right?


42 posted on 09/18/2009 2:17:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: GoldStandard
"As Mark Levin says “when libs say Neocon they really mean The Jews”

Sounds like his version of the left's race card: saying something automatically makes you racist/anti-semite.

Precisely!

A friend of mine wrote an article the other day mentioning the Bilderbergers. The editor cut that portion of the article out saying that "ANY mention of the Bilderbergers was anti-Semitic". As my writer friend said, the only Jewish Bilderberger he even knew of was George Soros, so that's a non-starter.

43 posted on 09/18/2009 2:17:10 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: EveningStar; djsherin; bamahead; Bokababe; dcwusmc; Favor Center
...a political and intellectual movement for disaffected ex-liberals like himself who had been "mugged by reality"...

More like a movement for liberals who wanted to pretend they were conservative without actually giving up their statist, quasi-fascist, Big Government tendencies.

44 posted on 09/18/2009 2:19:11 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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To: EveningStar

Sorry, never heard of him.

But Billy and Weakly Standard are not particularly helpful to The Movement, IMHO. Pinkshirts. They represent precisely 17 “republicans” in DC & suburbs.


45 posted on 09/18/2009 2:19:17 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: EveningStar

He should be proud of what he has left behind -
Wm F Buckley, not so much....


46 posted on 09/18/2009 2:19:35 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: EveningStar

RIP, and prayers for the Kristol family. Great minds.


47 posted on 09/18/2009 2:22:28 PM PDT by freedom_is_earned
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To: SandWMan

Oh, GO AWAY - and how shameful to crash a thread dedicated to the passing of a great man and thinker - you POS...


48 posted on 09/18/2009 2:22:32 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: rabscuttle385

You mean, like McCain supporters?


49 posted on 09/18/2009 2:23:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

He is more well known for his bestselling books and insurgent campaign to audit the Federal Reserve.

Did you see the ‘Audit the Fed Hits 290 Co Sponsors’ thread?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2342245/posts

That was a nice surprise for Constitution Day!


50 posted on 09/18/2009 2:25:50 PM PDT by Palin Republic (Palin - Bachmann 2012 : Girl Power!)
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