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Hawaii businesses to be hit with soaring unemployment tax
Source cannot be posted | September 18, 2009

Posted on 09/18/2009 5:52:49 PM PDT by Lorianne

Unemployment insurance payment of $90 surging to at least $1,040 per worker


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; bluestates; layoffs; taxincrease

1 posted on 09/18/2009 5:52:49 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

See how productive liberalism is?


2 posted on 09/18/2009 5:54:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Lorianne

Wow... it’s like cap and trade, only for employment.


3 posted on 09/18/2009 5:54:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Lorianne

Hey Hawaii! How’s that hope and change thing workin’ out for ya?


4 posted on 09/18/2009 5:54:58 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Americans! "Behaving badly" since April 19, 1775!)
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To: Lorianne

Why can’t the source be identified?


5 posted on 09/18/2009 5:55:29 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Lorianne

Welcome to liberal land.

Wonder when they’ll figure out that it’s those “common folks” who actually create the wealth.

I’ll trade all the Harvard/Yale/cookie cutter lib arts grads for a few hundred creative, clever, tech and business types.


6 posted on 09/18/2009 5:55:52 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Lorianne

Good for Hawaii! They deserve it.


7 posted on 09/18/2009 5:55:55 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Lorianne

Does Hawaii still have a Republican governor, and if so, what is she thinking?


8 posted on 09/18/2009 5:56:04 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Lorianne

Cloward-Piven Hits Hawaii first. The most Liberal State. Soon in a State near you.


9 posted on 09/18/2009 5:56:38 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Lorianne

Hey Hawaii look on the bright side you still got Islam Day enjoy.


10 posted on 09/18/2009 5:57:51 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Lorianne

Should be higher. At least $45,000 per worker!

That’ll get the Hawaiian economy into high gear. Uh huh, it sure will!


And they should impose a 3000% tax on new vehicles to save our precious Mother Gaia from the evil, rapicious homo sapiens.

Then we’ll all be living it an earthly paradise!


11 posted on 09/18/2009 5:58:25 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Lorianne

12 posted on 09/18/2009 5:59:00 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Read article here http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090918/NEWS01/909180371?source=rss_localnews


13 posted on 09/18/2009 5:59:56 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: freedumb2003

The typical lib-commie will see nothing wrong with it and want more.


14 posted on 09/18/2009 6:00:25 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: rawhide

Thanks, Rawhide.


15 posted on 09/18/2009 6:01:17 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: Lorianne
The average is $90 today to jump to $1040 starting next year. That does not seem right, but here is the chart in the article.


16 posted on 09/18/2009 6:02:38 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

17 posted on 09/18/2009 6:04:22 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: screaminsunshine

I remember not long ago reading where Hawaii was buying air tickets for the unemployed to get them to another state...


18 posted on 09/18/2009 6:05:29 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Lorianne

19 posted on 09/18/2009 6:06:36 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Lorianne

Just think of it as a hiding a non-existent birth certificate tax. HI can go to h8ll.

I will never go there and yes I can afford it.


20 posted on 09/18/2009 6:07:29 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Lorianne

Holy COW!


21 posted on 09/18/2009 6:13:34 PM PDT by A. Morgan (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. Lawrence)
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To: Brilliant

She’s thinking she’s outgunned by the overwhelmingly Democrat legislature ... as it has been forever.


22 posted on 09/18/2009 6:20:15 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Lorianne: I’m unaware of any rule that forbids you providing a link to the story. Excerpting it may be a different matter, but posting about an article you can’t even link to is essentially a vanity post.


23 posted on 09/18/2009 6:20:22 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Lorianne

GOOD, Maybe they will cough up Dear Leaders BC, or the Lack thereof information.


24 posted on 09/18/2009 6:20:30 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: Lorianne

Hawaiian official says, “Our hands are tied.”


25 posted on 09/18/2009 6:21:48 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ConorMacNessa; All

“Why can’t the source be identified?”

I do not know for sure.
All I know is everytime I try to post anything from the Honolulu Advertiser, it gets shot down.

Gannett or something.

Here’s the link:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090918/NEWS01/909180371&s=d&page=1


26 posted on 09/18/2009 6:22:09 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Cicero
Hawaiian official says, “Our hands are tied.”

If only.

27 posted on 09/18/2009 6:23:37 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Lorianne
Thanks, Lorianne - they are true scuzzbuckets who can't stand the light of truth!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
28 posted on 09/18/2009 6:24:43 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: BfloGuy

You’re right, but I forget to provide the link.

I can’t keep all the different rules straight for each resticted source, so I usually just post the link in my first post ... but I forgot this time.

Thanks


29 posted on 09/18/2009 6:24:59 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: windsorknot

giggle


30 posted on 09/18/2009 6:25:25 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Higher prices and more layoffs on the way. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.


31 posted on 09/18/2009 6:25:48 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: rawhide; screaminsunshine
Thanks for the link rawhide.

Cloward-Piven Hits Hawaii first.

Agreed scream, having just learned about Cloward-Piven from Beck, it was one of the first things I thought of as well.

Instigating collapse is all that I can see here. Unemployment rises, raise unemployment tax, more people lose their jobs because of the high tax, raise the unemployment tax, system and private sector collapses under its own weight.
32 posted on 09/18/2009 6:26:59 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Cicero

Hey, you pineapples, in the only state that OFFICIALLY enshrines racism and declares that `pure native Hawaiians’ enjoy special privileges denied to the rest of us “haoles”? Or is it “malahinis”?

Enjoy the fruits of your native liberalism and I’d rather be a tourist in Timbuktu than Honolulu.

“Pidgin To Da Max!”

;^)


33 posted on 09/18/2009 6:37:32 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are lubricated in pig grease!")
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To: Lorianne

Hey, no make mention brudda. Jus go surf Makapu. One good time.


34 posted on 09/18/2009 7:13:55 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Lorianne

I looked at that article and it didn’t state all that I had read in my local paper this morning. I looked at the various web sites to try to find the article,(Hawaii Tribune Hearald, AP, Honolulu Advertiser, Star Bulletin) so I could post the source url, and it is nowhere to be found. It had the name By Mark Niesse and Associate Press under the title “Business tax rises 1,156%”. At any rate, what struck me as typical of most Hawaii residents attitudes was the following quote from the article:


Those benefits are not at risk, even though the states unemployment fund is projected to be depleted by the end of next year. When that happens Hawaii government leaders plan to seek a loan of some $61 million from the federal government.
“They print money, right?” said Darwin Ching, director for the state Department of Labor and Industrial Relations. “We’ll be insolvent, but we won’t be bankrupt.”


The above is bad enough but what intrigues me is the fact that I cannot find the article or the quote from Darwin Ching anywhere on the net even thouth it is right in front of me in the newspaper.


35 posted on 09/18/2009 7:17:08 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: elcid1970
Hey, you pineapples, in the only state that OFFICIALLY enshrines racism and declares that `pure native Hawaiians’ enjoy special privileges denied to the rest of us “haoles”? Or is it “malahinis”?

In the 1980's, being in Hawaii as a white sailor was like being a negro in 'Jim Crow' Mississipi.

36 posted on 09/18/2009 7:22:32 PM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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To: Lorianne
The headline is wrong.

The workers will pay for this, not the employers.

37 posted on 09/18/2009 7:33:02 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

If you mean the workers will pay for this by losing some jobs, you are exactly right. It is a tax paid by the employers but will come off the top of the payroll figure allocated for employee positions.


38 posted on 09/18/2009 7:43:10 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: elkfersupper

yup! with their lost jobs!


39 posted on 09/18/2009 7:47:46 PM PDT by hotshu (Keep the Faith, that will be the only thing 0bama doesn't try to steal from us.)
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To: hotshu
Or just lower take-home pay.

Governments have been running this scam for so many years that employees no longer have any idea what their employers are paying for them to be there.

40 posted on 09/18/2009 7:52:30 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Lorianne

So instead of laying people off they will now fire them outright in order to keep from having to pay. Either that or they will simply shut down, re-organize and open again with far fewer employees. Government is simply bad for the people, all but the barest minimum should be done away with. The founders didn’t go far enough in limiting the power of government.


41 posted on 09/18/2009 7:56:35 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Lorianne
this almost sounds like "from each according to his ability to each according to his needs"

I know where this is going (the race to have no ability, but a lot of need) and I wanna play too.... I have a wife two kids, two dogs, a horse with a broken leg, and AND, I suffer from a condition in my brain that deprives me the motivation to work. Therefore, I think this new tax should be $95 in order to incorporate (and pay for) my needs.

42 posted on 09/18/2009 8:00:36 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Lorianne
Here's a liberal's idea of a perfect world(believe it or not a liberal described this to me once):

All businesses will be shut down, the government will simply print money and send every adult person over 18 a check(the amount to be determined later). The check will be taxed at a specific rate for everyone, this way the government will be able to increase their revenue. We will import all of our goods from some other country, including food, using the money the government prints for us.

Ok, for those of you who didn't read my first sentence, this is what a liberal told me once(quite recently)with a straight face and couldn't understand why I was staring at her like she was a lunatic. The above aren't my words or my ideas!

43 posted on 09/18/2009 8:03:57 PM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: calex59

I wonder how many employers will just pay under the table??


44 posted on 09/18/2009 8:18:53 PM PDT by Beamreach
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To: calex59

I totally believe it. I’ve hear similar proposals from liberal acquaintances.


45 posted on 09/18/2009 9:01:30 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: elkfersupper

Exactly right.


46 posted on 09/18/2009 9:02:57 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Another Democrat paradise overachieves.


47 posted on 09/18/2009 9:03:52 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: calex59
Here's a liberal's idea of a perfect world

LOL! I was talking to my lib cousin once about not having incentive to work if one is overly taxed. She asked,"But who would WANT to stay home all day?"

I was a stay-at-home-mom at the time.

A couple years later she was laid off and took a part-time, no benefits job and was fairly content being poor as dirt because of all the time it gave her.

48 posted on 09/18/2009 10:47:06 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Lorianne

Keep voting Democrat schmucks.


49 posted on 09/19/2009 4:11:45 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Lorianne

Over 50% of the employees in Hawaii are government employees of one sort or another. So, the tax increase is really no big deal unless the prices go up on everything, which they will or until it comes time to donate to the democraps. And then they want all the businesses to pony up. What happens if there are no private businesses left? It is so sad for the “greedy” businesses to try to even make a profit since every time they get ahead the tax man cometh. This state is unbelievable.


50 posted on 09/19/2009 8:17:18 AM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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