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Suit Alleges Trusted Blacks Drew Minorities to High-Rate Loans
Washington Independent ^ | 9/17/2009 | Mary Kane

Posted on 09/18/2009 8:54:15 PM PDT by Saije

As the housing market began booming in mid-2000, Wells Fargo & Co. teamed up with prominent African American commentator and PBS talk show host Tavis Smiley and financial author Kelvin Boston, the host of “Moneywise,”...to host something called “Wealth Building” seminars in black neighborhoods.

Smiley was the keynote speaker, and the big draw...Smiley would charge up the audience — and rattle the Wells Fargo executives in attendance — by launching into a story about how he hated banks, and how they used to refuse to lend him money for his real estate projects in Compton, Calif., and elsewhere. After Hurricane Katrina, Smiley also emphasized the importance of building assets and wealth, saying those who had done so were able to leave New Orleans, while people with nothing had to stay behind, Boston said...

The Illinois lawsuit against Wells is one of many such actions winding their way through the court system around the country, offering more details of alleged discriminatory tactics by lenders during the height of the subprime boom.

In a city of Baltimore lawsuit against Wells, former employees charged that Wells Fargo loan officers referred to minority borrowers as “mud people” and called subprime mortgages “ghetto loans.” But some prominent black bloggers find the “wealth building” seminars just as egregious, and question why Smiley, Boston, and anyone else who participated in them hasn’t been called on further to account for their actions.

“If Tavis Smiley was white, Wells Fargo and ‘Ghetto Loans’ would be front page news,” wrote Genma Stringer Holmes, a Nashville, Tenn., business owner and blogger who has blasted out several posts on the seminars.

Holmes said Smiley should speak out more against discriminatory subprime lending practices – but he hasn’t been forced to, because the black media has been silent on the issue, she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonindependent.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; baltimore; blacks; ghettoloans; lawsuit; loans; minorities; mortgage; pbs; smiley; tavissmiley; wellsfargo
Kind of amusing that Smiley would encourage people to borrow money from the bank by telling the audience how much he hated banks. Maybe that made him feel better about being a shill.
1 posted on 09/18/2009 8:54:16 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

Everyone needs an excuse for their own stupidly.


2 posted on 09/18/2009 8:57:13 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama should resign out of guilt for what he is doing to this once great country.)
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To: Saije
So, they're going to sue someone for giving them loans that they wanted. They used to sue them for NOT giving them loans that they wanted.

Stop making everyone else responsible for bad decisions.

3 posted on 09/18/2009 9:01:18 PM PDT by McGavin999 (How's that change old Hopey Dope promised you working out?)
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To: Saije
"Kind of amusing that Smiley would encourage people to borrow money from the bank by telling the audience how much he hated banks."

Maybe that was his way of saying, 'I hates da man but I likes da money."

4 posted on 09/18/2009 9:02:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

better yet sue ACORN and Clinton for this mess.


5 posted on 09/18/2009 9:04:17 PM PDT by lmarie373 (These little guys might look cute and cuddly, but trust us: they will kill you.-on emanuel brothersl)
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To: Saije

To be fair, why should Mr. Smiley be blamed for the lack of due diligence engaged in by the plaintiffs of this suit? The way I see it, he was simply advertising services just like any other spokesperson.


6 posted on 09/18/2009 9:04:55 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Saije

The “soft bigotry of lowered expectations” rears its ugly head yet again. I think non-blacks are supposed te be happy that Tavis didn’t do something violent, and just leave it at that...


7 posted on 09/18/2009 9:08:24 PM PDT by Carlos Martillo II (Guernica was a work of art...and I don't mean the painting.)
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To: pnh102

“To be fair, why should Mr. Smiley be blamed for the lack of due diligence engaged in by the plaintiffs of this suit?”

I think anyone who promotes a service or product is putting his name and reputation out there. People assume it must be a good thing if someone who’s trustworthy pushes it. Doesn’t excuse a person from looking into it for themselves but it is understandable.


8 posted on 09/18/2009 9:08:34 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

Oh man... then anyone who makes any ad could be subject of a lawsuit!


9 posted on 09/18/2009 9:10:24 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Saije

Franklin Raines didn’t earn double digit millions in bonuses from Fannie/Freddie for nothing.


10 posted on 09/18/2009 9:13:44 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: pnh102

Well Smiley wasn’t just making an ad. He was also getting financial support from Wells Fargo for those “State of the Black Union” forums he does every year, according to the article.

Doesn’t mean he knew anything about the loans or the bank’s practices. But he was benefiting in more than one way.


11 posted on 09/18/2009 9:13:48 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

Once a victom, always a victom.


12 posted on 09/18/2009 9:14:59 PM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.)
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To: Saije
But some prominent black bloggers find the “wealth building” seminars just as egregious, and question why Smiley, Boston, and anyone else who participated in them hasn’t been called on further to account for their actions.

Uh, because the scumbags always go after "deep pockets"?

Anyway, Wells Fargo deserves whatever it gets because, after all, the bank was extorted into making all these ghetto loans by Senator Dodd and Barney Frank and the rest of the pandering Democrat quota kings in Congress and... uh...

13 posted on 09/18/2009 9:15:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Saije
PBS talk show host Tavis Smiley

Kind of says it all...

14 posted on 09/18/2009 9:16:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“Anyway, Wells Fargo deserves whatever it gets because, after all, the bank was extorted into making all these ghetto loans by Senator Dodd and Barney Frank and the rest of the pandering Democrat quota kings in Congress and... uh...”

And because the banks were making a ton of money off these loans...and got bailed out when it all went bad...no heroes in this story that’s for sure.


15 posted on 09/18/2009 9:17:29 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije
And because the banks were making a ton of money off these loans...

Who can blame them? If somebody (the pandering Democrat quota kings in Congress who demanded the easing of prudent underwriting standards so their constituents could get loans they didn't deserve, for example) throws a suitcase full of thousand-dollar bills at your feet, you pick it up.

16 posted on 09/18/2009 9:30:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“Who can blame them?”

Apparently nobody. But we taxpayers and responsible borrowers are the ones paying for it now.


17 posted on 09/18/2009 9:32:16 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

And how many borrowers rolled over those mortgages again and again, sucking out equity in the boom.

Now in the bust they’re back in apartments but they still have the Escalade.


18 posted on 09/18/2009 9:36:40 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Saije

every level of corruption and it’s all about the money.

Who ya gonna trust these days?


19 posted on 09/18/2009 9:36:41 PM PDT by swheats (Time is the greatest equalizer. Seek God in America Again.)
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To: swheats
Who ya gonna trust these days?

No one will convince me that Tavis Smiley had no idea that people were being encouraged to do thinks outside their best interests.

Doesn't necessarily make him responsible, but it does make him a scumbag.

20 posted on 09/18/2009 10:06:23 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Saije

It’s not surprising that Smiley worked to harm the Black and Hispanic poor at all. Leftist shake down artists, I mean community activists, explain why things never get better for the poor people they claim to represent.

The Blacks and Hispanic who bit on the fishing line are not innocent victims, either. They are corrupt enough to fall for the “scam the banks” with bad loans bait. Unfortunately, George Bush celebrated the race quota improvement of home ownership in the underclass areas of the country.


21 posted on 09/19/2009 11:19:44 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Saije; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

“Mud people???” Didn’t people sling that term around in Nazi Germany?

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


22 posted on 09/19/2009 2:03:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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