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As cursive fades as a skill in school, parents fret, but experts are slow to worry
AP ^ | 9/19/09 | TOM BREEN

Posted on 09/19/2009 6:07:19 AM PDT by T-Bird45

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Charleston resident Kelli Davis was in for a surprise when her daughter brought home some routine paperwork at the start of school this fall. Davis signed the form and then handed it to her daughter for the eighth-grader's signature.

"I just assumed she knew how to do it, but I have a piece of paper with her signature on it and it looks like a little kid's signature," Davis said.

Her daughter was apologetic, but explained that she hadn't been required to make the graceful loops and joined letters of cursive writing in years. That prompted a call to the school and another surprise.

West Virginia's largest school system teaches cursive, but only in the 3rd grade.

"It doesn't get quite the emphasis it did years ago, primarily because of all the technology skills we now teach," said Jane Roberts, assistant superintendent for elementary education in Kanawha County schools.

Davis' experience gets repeated every time parents, who recall their own hours of laborious cursive practice, learn that what used to be called "penmanship" is being shunted aside at schools across the country in favor of 21st century skills.

The decline of cursive is happening as students are doing more and more work on computers, including writing. In 2011, the writing test of the National Assessment of Educational Progress will require 8th and 11th graders to compose on computers, with 4th graders following in 2019.

"We need to make sure they'll be ready for what's going to happen in 2020 or 2030," said Katie Van Sluys, a professor at DePaul University and the president of the Whole Language Umbrella, a conference of the National Council of Teachers of English.

Handwriting is increasingly something people do only when they need to make a note to themselves rather than communicate with others, she said. Students accustomed to using computers to write at home have a hard time seeing the relevance of hours of practicing cursive handwriting.

"They're writing, they're composing with these tools at home, and to have school look so different from that set of experiences is not the best idea," she said.

Text messaging, e-mail, and word processing have replaced handwriting outside the classroom, said Cheryl Jeffers, a professor at Marshall University's College of Education and Human Services, and she worries they'll replace it entirely before long.

"I am not sure students have a sense of any reason why they should vest their time and effort in writing a message out manually when it can be sent electronically in seconds."

For Jeffers, cursive writing is a lifelong skill, one she fears could become lost to the culture, making many historic records hard to decipher and robbing people of "a gift."

That fear is not new, said Kathleen Wright, national product manager for handwriting at Zaner-Bloser, a Columbus, Ohio-based company that produces a variety of instructional material for schools.

"If you go back, you can see the same conversations came up with the advent of the typewriter," she said.

Every year, Zaner-Bloser sponsors a national handwriting competition for schools, and this year saw more than 200,000 entries, a record.

"Everybody talks about how sometime in the future every kid's going to have a keyboard, but that isn't really true."

Few schools make keyboards available for day-to-day writing. The majority of school work, from taking notes to essay tests, is still done by hand.

At Mountaineer Montessori in Charleston, teacher Sharon Spencer stresses cursive to her first- through third-graders. By the time her students are in the third grade, they are writing book reports and their spelling words in cursive.

To Spencer, cursive writing is an art that helps teach them muscle control and hand-eye coordination.

"In the age of computers, I just tell the children, what if we are on an island and don't have electricity? One of the ways we communicate is through writing," she said.

But cursive is favored by fewer college-bound students. In 2005, the SAT began including a written essay portion, and a 2007 report by the College Board found that about 15 percent of test-takers chose to write in cursive, while the others wrote in print.

That was probably smart, according to Vanderbilt University professor Steve Graham, who cites multiple studies showing that sloppy writing routinely leads to lower grades, even in papers with the same wording as those written in a neater hand.

Graham argues that fears over the decline of handwriting in general and cursive in particular are distractions from the goal of improving students' overall writing skills. The important thing is to have students proficient enough to focus on their ideas and the composition of their writing rather than how they form the letters.

Data from the National Center for Education Statistics show that 26 percent of 12th graders lack basic proficiency in writing, while two percent were sufficiently skilled writers to be classified as "advanced."

"Handwriting is really the tail wagging the dog," Graham said.

Besides, it isn't as if all those adults who learned cursive years ago are doing their writing with the fluent grace of John Hancock.

Most people peak in terms of legibility in 4th grade, Graham said, and Wright said it's common for adults to write in a cursive-print hybrid.

"People still have to write, even if it's just scribbling," said Paula Sassi, a certified master graphologist and a member of the American Handwriting Analysis Foundation.

"Just like when we went from quill pen to fountain pen to ball point, now we're going from the art of handwriting to handwriting purely as communication," she said.


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Interesting article that presents both sides. One area that seems to be left out relates to fine motor skill development and how that is related to brain development and organization. For you homeschoolers, how much do you emphasize cursive writing skills?
1 posted on 09/19/2009 6:07:20 AM PDT by T-Bird45
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To: T-Bird45

“One area that seems to be left out relates to fine motor skill development and how that is related to brain development and organization.”

I wonder about this as well; any experts out there?


2 posted on 09/19/2009 6:14:52 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: T-Bird45

I think cursive should be modified to make it more of a speed writing script. At present, it has too many seemingly unnecessary squigglies.


3 posted on 09/19/2009 6:15:37 AM PDT by fso301
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To: T-Bird45

4 posted on 09/19/2009 6:16:33 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: T-Bird45

My 4th grader is in private school and they require “neat” cursive on all homework assignments.

I guess a thank you note is now outdated?


5 posted on 09/19/2009 6:16:35 AM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: T-Bird45

It isn’t just the kids. My handwriting used to be very good, but now (aside from my signature) its horrible. While some people might bemoan its loss, the truth is that ts an anachronism.


6 posted on 09/19/2009 6:16:54 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: T-Bird45; Tax-chick; Constitution Day

7 posted on 09/19/2009 6:18:22 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: T-Bird45

When I was homeschooling, sporadically, my children weren’t in the grades where it was an issue. I have a friend who taught their daughter a handwriting that wasn’t cursive, more of a calligraphy/printing, which was more legible and quicker than cursive. I can’t remember what it was called.


8 posted on 09/19/2009 6:19:57 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: paterfamilias

Yes, I probably qualify as reasonably expert in this area (school teacher who keeps up to date on a lot of areas, this one being a particular interest of mine).

There’s little inherent value in learning cursive as a way of writing. Most people are faster printing, most people’s printing is easier to read. Kids master printing earlier and if you are concerned about neat legible handwriting, repeated practice of printing will generally lead to better results in the long term.

But even if we’re not worried about cursive, even if we’re not particularly worried about the style at all, children do need handwriting practice of some sort - repetition of handwriting - to properly develop fine motor skill. Or something similar - colouring will do it as well, but the advanatge of doing it with handwriting is it normally allows for a wider range of other learning to take place at the same time (fine motor practice, while learning history for example).

Also, for some kids - kinaesthetic learners - handwriting greatly increases their skills in both spelling and in written expression far more than typing does. And as modern schools are quite often far better places for visual or auditory learners than they are for kinaesthetic learners, this is important. A lot of kinaesthetic learners are now winding up falling behind at school in comparison to other kids, far more often than they used to in the past. Part of that is probably down to reduced emphasis on handwriting - we’re using a way of teaching that worked for kinaesthetic learners less than we did in the past. That only matters for some kids, but it really does matter for them.


9 posted on 09/19/2009 6:28:47 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: rbg81

I agree with what you said. I only use cursive for my signature but print for everything else.

And, I am sure this argument has been going on for decades, if not centuries. Think of the lovely handwriting you see in museums. Cursive has been falling to the wayside for a long, long time.


10 posted on 09/19/2009 6:28:59 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: T-Bird45

“Experts” got us in the fix we’re in today.

Just saying.....


11 posted on 09/19/2009 6:32:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: T-Bird45

Well I can identify with this article. I am left handed and when it came to cursive handwriting in school my teachers said in effect that “Well you are left handed just do the best you can”

My son is using a combination cursive-print for his signature.
The authors are clearly right on one issue-our kids are getting exposure to cursive in only about grade three and then for a very short period of time.


12 posted on 09/19/2009 6:33:12 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: fso301

The point is made by the first paragraph. How do you sign documents without cursive? Printing a signature is not allowable and if we all write like 3rd graders how do you sign something that is actually unique to you. Cursive should be taught and utilized in schools it is a skill that needs to be maintained. As far as I am concerned it is just part of the dumbing down of America.


13 posted on 09/19/2009 6:35:07 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
You are possibly thinking of italic handwriting which I am trying to teach myself at present.

My opinion of looped cursive has been well stated by another:

Cursive

14 posted on 09/19/2009 6:35:21 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (If we can't get good government, then I want as little government as possible.)
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To: T-Bird45

I’m going to push cursive with my kids. My Grandpa, who was not a particularly educated man, had a very elegant hand. I wish I had learned to write in that style. My cursive is an amalgamation of two or three different styles taught during my early public school days, and I hate it.


15 posted on 09/19/2009 6:37:50 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (It takes a Viking to raze a Village!)
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To: BunnySlippers

I’ll admit it... I can’t even write cursive anymore...

I was given awards in early grade school for cursive handwriting skills...

I don’t even do my signature in cursive anymore... I haven’t for decades... It isn’t block, but it isn’t cursive either...


16 posted on 09/19/2009 6:38:52 AM PDT by DB
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To: T-Bird45

Cursive, worthless
Basic math, worthless
Spelling, worthless
Queer history and inflated self-importance...$10,000.00 per student.
Anti-American indoctrination...priceless


17 posted on 09/19/2009 6:39:25 AM PDT by steve8714 (There's a straight line from John Wilkes Booth through Paul Robeson to Sean Penn.)
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To: T-Bird45
"...it looks like a little kid's signature."

My sons have far better cursive handwriting than I do. And, no, my signature doesn't look like a kid's signature - it's more like chicken-scratch.

18 posted on 09/19/2009 6:39:44 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: calex59

“Printing a signature is not allowable”

That simply isn’t true.


19 posted on 09/19/2009 6:39:56 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB

I love it when a form insists that you PRINT your signature ... then WRITE your signature right next to it. And they are both alike. :)


20 posted on 09/19/2009 6:40:44 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: DB

I love it when a form insists that you PRINT your signature ... then WRITE your signature right next to it. And they are both alike. :)


21 posted on 09/19/2009 6:40:49 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

It’s called D’Nealian handwriting, and I hate it as “cursive.” Works OK for a kind of italic look.

My kids learned a more formal cursive in (Catholic) school, and I taught them to pretty it up a bit with some good, old-fashioned Palmer, which is what I learned.

As for handwriting being an anachronism...well, homework still needs to be in script, and they still need to write thank-you notes and send birthday cards to their grandparents. They still need to take notes in class, and script is much faster than printing.

I’m glad they learned it in school and that it is still required of them to be neat about it. They even get points for penmanship.

Regards,


22 posted on 09/19/2009 6:41:44 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Grab your gun and bring in the cat.)
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To: naturalman1975

I interview and hire dozens of people a month in my business. I don’t like to hire morons. Guess how I weed them out?


23 posted on 09/19/2009 6:42:17 AM PDT by steve8714 (There's a straight line from John Wilkes Booth through Paul Robeson to Sean Penn.)
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To: T-Bird45

We homeschooled, met MUCH resistance/ tears/ holes in paper in 3rd grade from cursive, and decided that keyboard skills would suffice, until later. Looking back, tho, I am not so sure. Sure, my son, now 23, can write cursive (maybe I should check) and is sailing through college. However, I wonder if there isn’t an element of orderliness in the brain that cursive adds, much as practicing music does. Depending on a computer is no safer than depending on a calculator for math — batteries die, you are out of luck.


24 posted on 09/19/2009 6:42:33 AM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: martin_fierro

This is a pet peeve of mine. My husband and children have such bad printing (don’t even mention their “cursive”) that they can’t right their own last name clearly enough for it to be read. And it’s not something like “Smith” that a person seeing it could guess; each of the possible translations of the scribbles is equally likely, to a non-family member.

(Tax-chick uses *her* parents’ last name *and* has neat handwriting.)


25 posted on 09/19/2009 6:43:30 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When my mothership lands, you're all toast.)
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To: T-Bird45

I really struggled with cursive. I managed to get into the “good writers club” for one month but I think the teacher was just being kind to me. If I need to be understood I print (or preferably type). If I need to take handwritten notes I use some sort of blend of cursive and print that pretty much only I can read. And that’s questionable.


26 posted on 09/19/2009 6:43:57 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: T-Bird45
...the graceful loops and joined letters of cursive writing in years.

Graceful loops?

My signature looks more like this: //// /////////

27 posted on 09/19/2009 6:44:12 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: calex59
I'll add that I haven't signed my name in cursive for at least 30 years... Your mark is your mark. It doesn't much matter what it is or if it is even vaguely legible as long you are somewhat consistent and you don't deny it is your mark.
28 posted on 09/19/2009 6:44:56 AM PDT by DB
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To: PeteB570

Thank you note? You’ve got to be kidding.

We used to send birthday cards to young relatives with some bills tucked in them. After years of never getting an acknowledgement we finally stopped.

If they don’t have the time or social grace to reply, even with one or two sentences, we don’t have the time to send a card to them.


29 posted on 09/19/2009 6:45:56 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: BunnySlippers

I add a little “character” to my signature printing...


30 posted on 09/19/2009 6:46:15 AM PDT by DB
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To: steve8714

You do? Weed them out by their hand-writing? well, for heaven’s sake. Hmmm.


31 posted on 09/19/2009 6:46:19 AM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: Tax-chick

And I can’t even spell right-write-wright today, even using the computer. Ne zot!


32 posted on 09/19/2009 6:46:39 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When my mothership lands, you're all toast.)
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To: DB
Testing


33 posted on 09/19/2009 6:46:59 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: steve8714

Are you saying that cursive is a measure of intelligence?


34 posted on 09/19/2009 6:48:16 AM PDT by DB
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To: T-Bird45

Another negative of cursive is that there are differences in national handwriting styles that make them hard to read for persons not of that particular group. Take a look at a letter written by a European, for example; and within Europe, there are significant differences in the cursive style from country to country.

I think a clear, speedy form of more universally legible printing should be developed.

Or maybe I’m defensive about the fact that my own handwriting has become completely illegible over the years (and wasn’t great to begin with!).


35 posted on 09/19/2009 6:49:09 AM PDT by livius
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To: T-Bird45

texting and email do not take good handwriting....


36 posted on 09/19/2009 6:49:51 AM PDT by tioga (Drip, Drip, Drip.......the ACORNS are falling.)
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To: listenhillary

What?


37 posted on 09/19/2009 6:49:56 AM PDT by DB
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

Here is a website where you can buy handwriting lessons and books that teach the Italic style mentioned by other posters:

http://www.handwritingthatworks.com/


38 posted on 09/19/2009 6:50:23 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: DB

Just testing cursive fonts. Sorry!


39 posted on 09/19/2009 6:50:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: steve8714

Well, judging from what I see of kids with neat cursive, what you’ll get if you’re using that as your benchmark is nice compliant types who aren’t particularly imaginative. Which would be great for quite a few businesses, I suppose.

The kids who come out of school with the neatest cursive tend to be the teacher pleasers. That’s not necessarily the group that includes the smartest kids, although they’ve generally got a decent work ethic, which is certainly not a bad thing.

One more thing that occurs to me - being a teacher, I see a lot of teachers handwriting. The teachers with the neatest cursive, in my view, tend to have the most juvenile looking handwriting. It looks like they’ve never developed a style of their own, and though it’s a bit unfair to say it, it makes me feel that they are also the ones who’ve never developed a thought of their own either - a bit unfair, because it’s not true of all of them. It is true of a lot of them, though.


40 posted on 09/19/2009 6:51:04 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: listenhillary

I was joking... ;-)


41 posted on 09/19/2009 6:51:23 AM PDT by DB
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To: T-Bird45

I could not speak with my mother via telephone because of my severe hearing loss so I loved receiving her letters (written in cursive even when she was in her advanced 80s). It’s the one thing that still brings tears to my eyes ... going out to the mailbox and knowing there won’t be another letter from her.


42 posted on 09/19/2009 6:51:23 AM PDT by mlizzy (Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration Chapels Everywhere spells P.E.A.C.E.)
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To: Maine Mariner
I am left handed and when it came to cursive handwriting in school my teachers said in effect that “Well you are left handed just do the best you can”

Your teacher was an idiot. Teachers teach "right handed cursive" and can't grasp the simple concept of turning the paper to the opposite angle to accommodate lefties.

Look at the top of your writing paper. It's probably angled at about the 11:00 o'clock position. That's all well and good for right handers but that's what causes lefties to do that bent wrist upside down thing. Merely turning the top of the paper to a 1:00 position will eliminate all of the wrist problem. It doesn't elminate all the left side to right side writing where lefties' hands might cover up their writing but merely re-positioning the paper solves 90% of the over all problems.

43 posted on 09/19/2009 6:51:49 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: DB

I did learn that there is no HTML for cursive fonts. Sigh!


44 posted on 09/19/2009 6:52:29 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: ladyjane; PeteB570

That’s another issue and a pet peeve of mine.

I gave a young man a Waterman pen for his graduation. No note. And a co-worker a Tiffany glass bowl for her wedding. No note.

Thanking the gift-giver is necessary, but apparently falling out of favor.


45 posted on 09/19/2009 6:54:54 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: steve8714
Classic.

I'm probably one of the few who's cursive is much neater and more legible than my printing. I also practice it a lot more. Interestingly enough, I do have to "warm-up" when I haven't written in a while. All the small muscles need ongoing exercise and attention.

46 posted on 09/19/2009 6:55:12 AM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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To: T-Bird45

I’m an “old guy” but my parent’s generation, as a rule, had beautiful handwriting and I’m talking about men as well. My partner in LE (a man, why do we have to qualify every darn statement?) had a flowing hand, it was fascinating to watch him write a report in cursive, very readable, straight lines on unruled paper.

He also was a logical, critical thinker, I agree with your statement about fine motor skills and brain development, I believe it’s all tied together.


47 posted on 09/19/2009 6:56:14 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: T-Bird45

Did cursive writing originate from using feathers cut to a point for writing?

Using a flowing writing without picking up the tip from the paper would seem to prevent ink blobs when touching the tip to the paper for each letter.

Maybe if we regress to using turkey feathers to write with, I’ll relearn to write cursive.


48 posted on 09/19/2009 6:57:12 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: DB
I'll add that I haven't signed my name in cursive for at least 30 years... Your mark is your mark. It doesn't much matter what it is or if it is even vaguely legible as long you are somewhat consistent and you don't deny it is your mark.

Uh, what's the name of your bank again?

49 posted on 09/19/2009 6:59:03 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Tax-chick
My husband and children have such bad printing (don’t even mention their “cursive”) that they can’t right their own last name clearly enough for it to be read.

Are they ambidextrous? My brothers are all pretty ambidextrous and their writing has always been pretty bizarre. Funky handwriting seems to be a feature.

50 posted on 09/19/2009 6:59:47 AM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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