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Will strategy of picking moderates prove successful?
Southern Political Report ^ | 9/19/2009 | John A. Tures

Posted on 09/19/2009 6:44:06 AM PDT by Saije

In the movie “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington,” the Montana Governor has a difficult time trying to pick a US Senate to appoint. He tries flipping a coin to decide. The coin lands upon its side.

Picking a Senate nominee may seem like that for Republicans. The last two election cycles have not been kind to the GOP. Not only did the party lose its clear majority, but it seems in danger of losing its ability to filibuster legislation. And the 2010 cycle may not be kind to the GOP, either, given the electoral map and the need to defend more seats...

To overcome this, National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) Chairman John Cornyn of Texas and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky are trying to pick candidates in primaries to support, who they think will have a better chance of winning in 2010. And it just so happens that several of them may be more moderate than conservative.

Josh Kraushaar’s Politico article “Conservatives Resent NRSC Nods” documents political insiders defending the Cornyn plan, noting Democrats employed such a similar winning strategy in the last two election cycles. “The job of the party committee is to help people with an ‘R’ next to their name; it doesn’t matter what their ideology is” said Carl Forti of the NRCC...

But conservatives are steamed that the NRSC appears to be “picking winners” in Florida, Kentucky, New Hampshire, Colorado, and California. Conservative State Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, who is being slighted in favor of the more moderate Hewlitt Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, said, “Under John Cornyn, the National Republican Senatorial Committee has racked up an impressive string of endorsements in support of nonconservative, unpopular, poorly vetted candidates across the nation. These candidacies have thus far gone on to flounder or implode.”....

(Excerpt) Read more at southernpoliticalreport.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; conservatives; cornyn; elections; moderate; moderates; nrscc; rmsp
This is why I've been saying no to GOP phone calls asking for money. Because I don't think the GOP gets it even now. Not to say that it should be fielding unelectable conservative candidates just because they talk the talk. But I'm not convinced that it's the "conservative" part that makes them unelectable.
1 posted on 09/19/2009 6:44:07 AM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije
No


2 posted on 09/19/2009 6:44:59 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Saije
Moderates tend to be appeasers, we have enough of those already. We need some street-fighter types than stand on priciple, not wave little worthless pieces of paper of compromise a la Chamberlain.
3 posted on 09/19/2009 6:47:42 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop
Amen!

A return to the roots of conservatism is all that's required.

The trouble is the stupid party is too stupid to figger that out.

4 posted on 09/19/2009 6:50:34 AM PDT by evad (Spending money that we don't have on something that won't work for a problem that doesn't exist)
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To: Saije
The ultimate pragmatic question:

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?"

- Jesus Christ

5 posted on 09/19/2009 6:51:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (It ain't how much lead you've got. What matters is how much lead you can put on the target.)
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To: brushcop

The GOP needs more young people, youthful types that can excite crowds and whip up the kind of enthusiasm that Sarah Palin has done, yuppie types who are successful in a variety of fields namely sports, business, professional avocations such as doctors and scientists, members of religious groups and organizations, church members, the entertainment industry, indeed from every walk of life and regardless of race or color or creed etc. but with one basic thing in common - a true commitment to moral, spiritual and conservative values, ideals and principles.


6 posted on 09/19/2009 6:54:27 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Saije
Josh Kraushaar’s Politico article “Conservatives Resent NRSC Nods” documents political insiders defending the Cornyn plan, noting Democrats employed such a similar winning strategy in the last two election cycles. “The job of the party committee is to help people with an ‘R’ next to their name; it doesn’t matter what their ideology is” said Carl Forti of the NRCC

That is the epitome of the GOP and why I don't support them. It is also exactly why the GOP has been moving steadily left for years/decades. They are as a big a problem as the Dem's. At least with the Dem's you know up front where they want to go and what they are. The Liberal GOP does much of it with a wink wink, apple pie and a belief that the populous will eat shit and like it because this IS the "conservative" party! What other choice do you have?

7 posted on 09/19/2009 7:02:26 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Saije
They followed this strategy with McCain, how did that work for them?
8 posted on 09/19/2009 7:13:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Carbon offsets? Sounds like the Environmental Church wants us to buy climate indulgences.)
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To: Saije

If conservatives participated more in the political process, then they can overtake the RINOs. Conservative apathy is what enables RINOs to win.


9 posted on 09/19/2009 7:15:43 AM PDT by DanZanRyu (Hannah Giles is proof that Evangelicals make America great!)
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To: Saije

Constitutionalist conservatives will win everywhere.....bible-thumping evangelical conservatives get most of the country alarmed....


10 posted on 09/19/2009 7:19:33 AM PDT by mo
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To: Saije

Nope.


11 posted on 09/19/2009 7:26:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Saije

The Republicans are in trouble now because of the RINO’s.


12 posted on 09/19/2009 7:28:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: DanZanRyu
If conservatives participated more in the political process, then they can overtake the RINOs. Conservative apathy is what enables RINOs to win.

Where does this apathy come from?
13 posted on 09/19/2009 7:28:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Saije
"In the movie “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington,” the Montana Governor has a difficult time trying to pick..."

I don't recall the state in this movie being Montana. In fact I don't think the state he is from is ever actually stated in the movie. Am I mis-remembering? I've got the movie recorded on DVR and have watched it several times.

14 posted on 09/19/2009 7:28:27 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: mo

RE: #10 I agree. I see it all the time in Oregon. Fiscally conservative originalist guys don’t stand a chance of getting nominated by the state GOP leadership. Only evangelicals need apply and most of them are big spending “compassionate conservatives”.


15 posted on 09/19/2009 7:35:06 AM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tailback
Fiscally conservative originalist guys don’t stand a chance of getting nominated by the state GOP leadership. Only evangelicals need apply and most of them are big spending “compassionate conservatives”.

You can't blame that on evangelicals. The blame for that goes to big spender RINOs who want more big spenders no matter who they are.

My former congressman was a baptist minister who was about as fiscally conservative as you'll ever find. In 17 years in the state senate he never once voted for a new tax and was a founding member of the "no caucus".

In the last election the GOP backed him right up until he spoke out against the big bank bailout then they suddenly decided he was a lost cause and stripped him of money. He lost by %2 and now we have a pelosi finger puppet in his place.

"Moderates" and RINOs are bottom feeding lying scum who will happily hand a seat to the democrats if they think they can use fear to put it back in RINO hands in the future. It didn't work last time and it isn't going to work this time but have no fear, they won't be to blame. They never are.
16 posted on 09/19/2009 7:51:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Saije
They'll never learn.

Moderates are why they lost elections.

If we wanted to vote for Democrats, we would just vote for Democrats.

What we see at TEA parties, town halls and recent marches is what we need to see in candidates.

If they want no part of our stand, we want no part of them.

17 posted on 09/19/2009 7:57:12 AM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: Saije
"The job of the party committee is to help people with an ‘R’ next to their name; it doesn’t matter what their ideology is” said Carl Forti of the NRCC...

This is a stunning admission. Is Carl Forti mentally handicapped, or intellectually and morally bankrupt, or both? What an utterly revealing statement. Forti has spilled the beans on who he is. If Forti isn't out on his ear by Monday, the party leadership will have spilled the beans on themselves, too.

News flash, Forti: ideology does matter. The R after the name is supposed to stand for something. If it doesn't, then there's no point in having it. Maybe it means nothing to you, but it does--or at least, used to--mean something to American voters. If William Ayers or Jeremiah Wright stuck an R after their names, their ideology would be immaterial? Good grief, Forti. Check out a long-term care facility, stat, before the dementia progresses any further.

18 posted on 09/19/2009 7:58:21 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: DakotaRed
Moderates are why they lost elections.

They are lukewarm. People spit them out.

19 posted on 09/19/2009 8:02:19 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: cripplecreek
The economy and health care are two issues that effect people in personal ways. Thus people are motivated to act. In order to motivate people, conservative leaders need to personalize issues.
20 posted on 09/19/2009 8:04:02 AM PDT by DanZanRyu (Hannah Giles is proof that Evangelicals make America great!)
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To: Ev Reeman

Agreed, wholeheartedly. And we’ve been saying this for so long, I’ve said it to every GOP fundraiser caller, had some agreement from those younger folks making the calls too, which was encouraging.


21 posted on 09/19/2009 9:18:15 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: mo

Constituional Conservatives and
“bible-thumping evangelical conservatives” can be one and same such as I..


22 posted on 09/19/2009 9:55:52 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Saije

moderates.

sheep in wolves clothing


23 posted on 09/19/2009 10:21:13 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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This is why I continue an interest in a third party. IMO, it should stand for fiscal conservatism, upholding the constitution and individual liberty, and accept that candidates will range on social issues- within reason.


24 posted on 09/19/2009 2:31:06 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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