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Pay With a Wave of Your Hand?
MSN Money ^ | 9/11/2009 | CreditCards.com

Posted on 09/19/2009 5:16:32 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

An implantable chip could allow you to charge purchases or even start your car. It'd be convenient, to be sure. But would it be too creepy?

It's a simple concept, really: You inject a miniature radio frequency identifier the size of a grain of rice between your thumb and forefinger and, with a wave of your hand, unlock doors, turn on lights, start your car or pay for your drinks at an ultrachic nightspot.

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Where have I seen this mentioned before?
1 posted on 09/19/2009 5:16:32 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I cannot, and will not take the mark.


2 posted on 09/19/2009 5:18:12 PM PDT by SandWMan ( A riot ist an ugly sing, und, I sink it's about time zat ve had vone!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

hmm....Something about a mark of a something or other.....


3 posted on 09/19/2009 5:18:25 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
But would it be too creepy?

It wouldn't be creepy at all, if it weren't for the whole Revelation thing. That shifts it form "That might be cool" to "Aw, hell no!"

4 posted on 09/19/2009 5:19:07 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (They pour flaming jet fuel on people to please their god. How shall we respond?)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

What happens if someone drains your account while pretending to shake hands with you?


5 posted on 09/19/2009 5:19:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Cannot buy or sell except they have the mark of the beast.....No thanks I die on my feet thank you very much.

They can also track you where ever you go, it is the reason they did away with analog TV.


6 posted on 09/19/2009 5:20:20 PM PDT by stockpirate (Joe Wilson Truth Czar for a Free Republic!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

all the more reason for thieves to just whack your hand off at the wrist and then run around town charging things


7 posted on 09/19/2009 5:20:25 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Where have I seen this mentioned before?

Oh, ya know...your Bible.....

8 posted on 09/19/2009 5:22:01 PM PDT by Brad's Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
a miniature radio frequency identifier the size of a grain of rice between your thumb and forefinger

I'd be for it if it was between my second and third finger. That way, I could live long and prosper.


9 posted on 09/19/2009 5:22:57 PM PDT by edpc (Spay and neuter your liberals)
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To: Cicero

What happens if someone drains your account while pretending to shake hands with you?
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LOL Good one.


10 posted on 09/19/2009 5:23:27 PM PDT by unkus
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To: edpc

I have a finger for it but won’t say which in polite company.


11 posted on 09/19/2009 5:25:07 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: edpc

mork says “nanoo, nanoo”


12 posted on 09/19/2009 5:25:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Talk about complaints...Portnoy could go into a pay toilet and run up a $5000 tab....just sayin’


13 posted on 09/19/2009 5:26:25 PM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Just wave your hand and say, “Make it so!”


14 posted on 09/19/2009 5:28:39 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
I never thought I'd be making 90% of my purchases with plastic either.

While I doubt these will be implanted, I can certainly envision having RFID in my wallet to pay for my groceriesas I walk out the door, to log into my PC, to open my house when I get home or to start my car as I approach it.

The technology is here. Now it's just a matter of selling it to the public.

15 posted on 09/19/2009 5:30:07 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

You could be buying stuff a hundred times a day and not know it.

16 posted on 09/19/2009 5:30:12 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Cicero
What happens if someone drains your account while pretending to shake hands with you?

Or chops off your hand so they can steal your car or access your bank account.

17 posted on 09/19/2009 5:31:26 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
PhotobucketAnd Big Obama's tracking stations would record your every move as you went about your day.


Photobucket You wouldn't need this anymore.

18 posted on 09/19/2009 5:32:12 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

19 posted on 09/19/2009 5:33:01 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Early tests of the product revealed a problem where the sensors were just too darned sensitive. Two Italians having an argument just outside the door of the store drained their bank accounts in a matter of minutes ...


20 posted on 09/19/2009 5:34:28 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

If we forget about the whole bible thing for a moment...this is still a bad idea. The economic crises we are currently in should be a lesson to us. What we DO NOT NEED is INTANGIBLE MONEY. That will only worsen our economic plight.

I’m starting to think an outright ban on all credit cards is a good idea, and maybe even paper money. Only metallic coin money from now on. bring back the eagles and double eagles and eisenhower dollars.


21 posted on 09/19/2009 5:35:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: sionnsar

Have you stayed at the De Luxe Hotel too?


22 posted on 09/19/2009 5:35:53 PM PDT by Global2010 (Strange We Can Believe In)
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To: Mr. Silverback

I agree, no. Besides the biblical implications, this would be asking for some bizarre mutilation crimes.


23 posted on 09/19/2009 5:37:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Yep pretty much there now. Just don’t have the implant. Drive through toll devices with automatic billing, swipe your debit/credit card for payment, read your finger/hand print for access, telecommunications keep you connected, etc. etc. etc.


24 posted on 09/19/2009 5:38:17 PM PDT by deport
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To: Mr. Silverback

25 posted on 09/19/2009 5:39:17 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: mamelukesabre

The government’s anti-terrorism people would groan. Right now if you walk into an airport and smack down cash you will be refused a ticket even if you show ID.


26 posted on 09/19/2009 5:39:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

27 posted on 09/19/2009 5:39:49 PM PDT by seawolf101
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Pay With a Wave of Your Hand?

... Or maybe someone elses!


28 posted on 09/19/2009 5:41:16 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
It makes me wonder if The Mark is going to truly stand out or if it'll be something like this. On the face of it, I like this idea, but the possible Biblical implications make me hesitate to embrace the idea.

Will we know for sure when we see The Mark?

29 posted on 09/19/2009 5:42:19 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Pay With a Wave of Your Hand?

Sometimes I have to smile and wink too.

30 posted on 09/19/2009 5:43:16 PM PDT by Miss Behave (i wuv u. i bam bam bam u wiff muh paw now.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’m starting to wonder if the government is not terrorists themselves. I can’t believe I just said that.


31 posted on 09/19/2009 5:46:06 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

Their aspirations are not as radical as the Taliban, but some of them seem to be as easily offended as the Taliban.


32 posted on 09/19/2009 5:48:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: sonofagun
"The technology is here. Now it's just a matter of selling it to the public."

My 10 year old car has this technology. Whenever I walk near the car (carrying the keys) it unlocks. Whenever I walk away, it locks.

This feature is a royal pain in the butt! I never know for sure if it is working unless I also activate the blow horn when locking feature, and it is always beeping when I walk around the house, or outside. Fortunately, it has an off switch, so I never use it.

It has one interesting feature. In order to save battery life, the key shuts off after it stops moving around for 20 minutes. It wakes up when it starts moving again. This means that if I accidental lock the keys in the car it can be opened again in 20 minutes. I just wait until the key shuts off and then shake the bumper. The key 'wakes up' and turns on. The car says: 'My master just arrived, unlock the doors'!

33 posted on 09/19/2009 5:48:35 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Seems to me it’s got to be something rather obviously anti-christian. Otherwise how could we be damned for accepting it?

But what do I know? I don’t even understand the concept of the holy trinity. I’ve decided we’re all just stumbling around in the dark when it comes to religion.


34 posted on 09/19/2009 5:49:08 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: deport

A grocery nearby me had a “touch to pay” system for a while. I don’t recall complaints that it didn’t work, but it went away.


35 posted on 09/19/2009 5:50:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Thanks. Now I know how easy it is to steal your car.


36 posted on 09/19/2009 5:51:01 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think that has more to do with them not wanting to have a cash drawer, which I can understand.


37 posted on 09/19/2009 5:56:25 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

And for those folks who have no limbs, they can have the ID device implanted in their HEADS! What a great idea!

It can all be based on the new internet protocols, IP 6! That way you can literally have billions of IP addresses for each individual and all their internet appliances!


38 posted on 09/19/2009 5:58:14 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: Future Snake Eater
God tells us that the mark will go in either a person's right hand or his forehead and no one will be able to buy or sell without this mark.

The fact that the idea for implanting chips in the hand for the purpose of buying is being floated is highly significant.

39 posted on 09/19/2009 5:58:21 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Try going your own way, dropping out, moving to Galtsville, not buying government mandated “insurance”, buying more than your approved allotment of gasoline or selling a used rifle (or anything else) for cash once you are sporting an implanted government I.D. chip.

How long before the government demands implantation at birth? (for our own health and safety, of course)

How long before it becomes a felonious crime against the state to attempt removal or alteration of implanted chips?

How long before the chips are programmed to transmit a warning if any attempt is made to remove them?


40 posted on 09/19/2009 5:58:45 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat." - Claire Wolfe)
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To: stockpirate
They can also track you where ever you go, it is the reason they did away with analog TV.

And the reason they gave us cell phones, also.

41 posted on 09/19/2009 6:00:24 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I don’t want this crap.


42 posted on 09/19/2009 6:05:04 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I wonder what would happen to that little chip if you were in one of those MRI machines.


43 posted on 09/19/2009 6:34:59 PM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Liberals are terrible at math.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Will we know for sure when we see The Mark?

My understanding is that The Mark take effect until the anti-Christ comes on the scene. I expect believers to be raptured out of here before that time because they won't be deceived by the anti-Christ and will therefore have to be gone. Now Obama sure seems like the guy, but I'm pretty sure he isn't the one. Just a precursor to the real one.
44 posted on 09/19/2009 6:40:50 PM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Liberals are terrible at math.)
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To: SandWMan

What do you produce? Maybe we can barter . . .


45 posted on 09/19/2009 6:47:25 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Iron Munro; GiovannaNicoletta
Try going your own way, dropping out, moving to Galtsville, not buying government mandated “insurance”, buying more than your approved allotment of gasoline or selling a used rifle (or anything else) for cash once you are sporting an implanted government I.D. chip.

Remember the movie Idiocracy? The gov't gave everyone a barcode "tattoo" for ID.

46 posted on 09/19/2009 6:51:41 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
A mark to buy and sell.
I have heard that phrase somewhere?
47 posted on 09/19/2009 6:53:56 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: edpc
I'd be for it if it was between my second and third finger. That way, I could live long and prosper.

It's more likely that with the implantation of these chips that the Vulcan curse will be invoked as an 'extra', i.e. "Die Quick and Go Bankrupt"
48 posted on 09/19/2009 7:13:06 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama?!?!? ********* YOU LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ************)
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To: Iron Munro
How long before the chips are programmed to transmit a warning if any attempt is made to remove them?

Mister Optimist! If it decides you're tampering with it, it just starts squirting out the poison or the 50KV.

49 posted on 09/19/2009 7:13:55 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Mr. Jazzy
It can all be based on the new internet protocols, IP 6! That way you can literally have billions of IP addresses for each individual and all their internet appliances!

They can chip my USB devices when they pry them from my "COLD DEAD HANDS" ;)
50 posted on 09/19/2009 7:14:58 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama?!?!? ********* YOU LIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ************)
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