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Russia starts talks to buy French warship: minister
AFP ^ | Sep 19, 2009

Posted on 09/19/2009 6:27:40 PM PDT by george76

Russia said on Saturday it had started talks with France for an unprecedented deal to buy a new helicopter-carrying assault warship from NATO-member France.

The Russian government daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta reported last month that the ship, which can carry 16 heavy helicopters, 470 airborne troops and other gear, costs 700 million euros (995 million dollars).

(Excerpt) Read more at ca.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; coldwar2; france; nato; navair; navy; russia; russianmilitary

1 posted on 09/19/2009 6:27:40 PM PDT by george76
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To: knighthawk

2 posted on 09/19/2009 6:30:36 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

The US would use that for a hospital ship


3 posted on 09/19/2009 6:32:43 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com ............. http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: george76

lulz, Russia can’t build one?


4 posted on 09/19/2009 6:40:32 PM PDT by cranked
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To: george76

Maybe the French will remember to bolt the props on tightly before the Russians pick it up?


5 posted on 09/19/2009 6:40:37 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: cranked

Easier to buy/steal the technology and labor of others.


6 posted on 09/19/2009 6:41:09 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: george76
Russia buying a warship from France???

I'm not demeaning the respectable technical capabilities of either country, but somehow this just seems odd.

7 posted on 09/19/2009 6:42:27 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: wally_bert

I used to work on Navy Carriers as a shipfitter.
I had a Navy Chief once remark that the reason Russia can’t build a true CV is becuase they have yet learned how the the concept of flight deck tie-downs. ;-)


8 posted on 09/19/2009 6:44:36 PM PDT by cranked
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To: cranked

So I guess they’ve decided to trade off flight deck tie downs in exhchange for losing a propeller or two.


9 posted on 09/19/2009 6:48:05 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: CaptRon

lulz


10 posted on 09/19/2009 6:48:43 PM PDT by cranked
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To: george76

Looks about as modern as an old LPH. When was the last one of those de-comm’ed by the USN?


11 posted on 09/19/2009 6:51:54 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: george76
you GOTTA be kiddin me... oh how the mighty have fallen
12 posted on 09/19/2009 6:53:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

I thought the Russkies had one carrier built on the British ski jump deck design. The were flying VTOL Sukhois off of it.


13 posted on 09/19/2009 6:57:10 PM PDT by CaptRon
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To: george76
Dear Putie,

Make sure they put cotter pins in the prop shafts.

14 posted on 09/19/2009 7:06:12 PM PDT by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: george76

Hey buy their carriers.
I hear you get a deal on their catapults.


15 posted on 09/19/2009 7:06:51 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: george76

The Mistral class and the Spanish Juan Carlos I class were the two contenders for Australia’s amphib project.

It became pretty clear early on that the Juan Carlos I was well head of the French offering in a number of important areas.

That said, the French ship is light years ahead of anything the Russians could ever put to sea.


16 posted on 09/19/2009 7:12:11 PM PDT by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today's.)
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To: sionnsar
I'm not demeaning the respectable technical capabilities of either country, but somehow this just seems odd.

If Russia has a need for only one such ship then it makes lots of sense to buy "off the shelf" instead of starting a multi-year design and construction process. Cross-sales of military equipment are common enough. For example, Russia also buys some UAVs from Israel, even though Russia has several domestically produced UAVs like this one. But different products satisfy different needs. All Russian UAVs are primarily designed for surveillance and generally can't carry weapons.

17 posted on 09/19/2009 7:15:10 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: george76

Looks like the French version has a well deck and a couple of hovercraft.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mistral/


18 posted on 09/19/2009 7:19:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: magslinger

ping


19 posted on 09/19/2009 7:30:01 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: Greysard

Thanks!


20 posted on 09/19/2009 7:36:08 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: george76

Are we sure this isn’t some BBC sitcom?
Russian sailors on a French built ship?
I can see it now...


21 posted on 09/19/2009 7:39:58 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: CaptRon
prolly do since iirc they sold their latest failure to India to be finished
22 posted on 09/19/2009 7:44:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: CaptRon
p.s. if i HAD to outsource my Navy, i guess i'd trust the Brits a hell of a lot more than the Frogs to build it...
23 posted on 09/19/2009 7:55:28 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: CaptRon
Su-33. Admiral Kuznetsov carrier (part 1/3)
24 posted on 09/19/2009 8:06:40 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: PAR35

my hovercraft is full of eels.


25 posted on 09/19/2009 8:12:24 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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26 posted on 09/20/2009 12:09:35 PM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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