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GEORGE WILL: Bosnian experience augers poorly for Afghanistan
Grand Forks Herald ^ | 9/20/2009 | George Will

Posted on 09/19/2009 10:33:10 PM PDT by Saije

For 11 days in late August and early September 1995, U.S. and NATO air power defended Bosnian Muslims, who were being attacked by Bosnian Serbs, who were supported by Serbian Serbs. This was merely the overture to something much more ambitious — a grand concert of nation-building that began when the Dayton agreement reached in December of that year calmed the Balkan furies of revanchism and revenge, for a while...

Political scientists Patrice C. McMahon and Jon Western note that Bosnia was “once the poster child for international reconstruction efforts” and was considered “proof that under the right conditions the international community could successfully rebuild conflict-ridden countries.” But now, Bosnia “stands on the brink of collapse.”

From 1996 to 2007, Bosnia received $14 billion in international aid from 17 foreign governments, 18 U.N. agencies, 27 intergovernmental organizations and about 200 nongovernmental organizations, plus the presence of 60,000 troops from 36 countries. It was, McMahon and Western say, “arguably the most extensive and innovative democratization experiment in history.”...

Today, the centrifugal forces of the rival ethnic nationalisms of Bosnia’s Muslims, Croats and Serbs have, McMahon and Western say, stalled reform and the economy — unemployment is 27 percent, 25 percent of Bosnians live in poverty, and the public sector, with a ludicrous 160 ministers, swallows almost half the GDP.

International organizations, suffering Balkan fatigue and eager to declare “mission accomplished,” are withdrawing, leaving Muslims isolated and vulnerable, and, as Bosnia is, McMahon and Western say, “drifting toward chaos.”...

“With factions from all three ethnic groups now challenging the Dayton structure,” McMahon and Western are emphatic: “First, a strong U.S. commitment is necessary.” But this is not a propitious moment to propose that, with Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq — and North Korea, etc. — on Washington’s mind.

(Excerpt) Read more at grandforksherald.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; aid; bosnia; mhmmdnsm09202009; nato; obama
I know Will has already advocated bugging out of Afghanistan and that's really the point of this article, if we can't make it happen in Bosnia, won't be able to do it in Afghanistan. Don't know if that's true. Also didn't know that Bosnia was this bad off. And no way Obama has a plan for it.
1 posted on 09/19/2009 10:33:11 PM PDT by Saije
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To: Saije

Augers poorly? If the NY Slimes editors want to drill holes correctly, they need to get a better auger [and check the dictionary for the spelling of ‘augur’].


2 posted on 09/19/2009 10:39:04 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: rfp1234

George Will is writing for the Grand Forks Herald now? Do they have a baseball diamond?


3 posted on 09/19/2009 10:53:59 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Saije

*didn’t know that Bosnia was this bad off.*

Read the book “Al-Qaida’s Jihad In Europe” The Afghan -

Bosnian Network pub. 2004 by Evan F. Kohlmann


4 posted on 09/19/2009 10:57:27 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: rfp1234

I’m afraid that this one is on the “Grand Forks Herald”. First, they spell “argues” wrong - assuming of course that’s what they were attempting. Second, Will’s 09/20/09 column with this text is titled “Been there, didn’t do that “ every where else it’s published today. And lastly, they attribute original publication to the NY Times, when in fact Will’s column isn’t published there - at all (I don’t believe he’s ever been published there). Perhaps they meant the Washington Post.


5 posted on 09/19/2009 11:33:09 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand

See post #2, the reference is to foretelling the future by taking the auguries or reading signs in nature, the flight of birds, etc.
Besides being a baseball enthusiast, George Will is, if not a classicist like Victor Davis Hanson, at least classically educated.


6 posted on 09/20/2009 12:35:49 AM PDT by skepsel
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To: OldDeckHand

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/augur


7 posted on 09/20/2009 12:45:58 AM PDT by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Saije
But now, Bosnia “stands on the brink of collapse."

Bosnia is too politically fractured to stand at all.

8 posted on 09/20/2009 1:26:46 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Saije

Their certainly is a resemblance in Commander-in-Chief leadership. And to think that when we created USD-AV we thought that there could not be one more inept than Slick Willy.


9 posted on 09/20/2009 2:10:44 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: rfp1234

This misspelling had to have originated at the GF Herald. A liberal (ergo illiterate) rag.


10 posted on 09/20/2009 4:11:27 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy’s America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Misterioso; skepsel

Ah, we seem to have a misplaced “U”. I doubted that Mr. Will can even identify word-working tools, let alone reference them in a pleading for Aghanistan withdrawal.


11 posted on 09/20/2009 8:23:22 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand
I expect you meant wood-working tools.
12 posted on 09/20/2009 8:36:15 AM PDT by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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"I expect you meant wood-working tools. "

Yes, but in my defense, I don't employ my own editor, nor am I in either the word-working or wood-working business ;>)

13 posted on 09/20/2009 8:42:14 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: Saije

I read a story VERY similar to this in Foreign Affairs. It shows why Afghanistan needs to be a long term commitment. Bosnia has been stationed by NATO for years and look what is happening.

The last thing we need are the Serbs, Muslims and Croats trying to wipe one another out again.


14 posted on 09/23/2009 7:06:53 PM PDT by Synthex (Concerned about Afghanistan)
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