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Obama 'skeptical' about more troops
Politico ^ | September 20, 2009 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on 09/20/2009 10:16:33 AM PDT by jazusamo

 

President Barack Obama is warning U.S. commanders that he’s “skeptical” about whether more troops will make a difference in Afghanistan, saying he’ll approve an upcoming request only if the forces fit into a strategy to beat back al-Qaida and protect the United States.

“Until I'm satisfied that we've got the right strategy I'm not gonna be sending some young man or woman over there — beyond what we already have,” Obama said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I'm not interested in just being in Afghanistan for the sake of being in Afghanistan or saving face or, in some way – you know, sending a message that America is here for the duration.”

U.S. generals are preparing to seek as many as tens of thousands additional troops for the increasingly unpopular conflict, but in several of his five Sunday talk show interviews, Obama made clear that he’s far from convinced about the need for a massive infusion of troops and won’t be rushed on the decision.

“We’re going to test whatever resources we have against our strategy, which is, if by sending young men and women into harm’s way, we are defeating al Qaeda–and that can be shown to a skeptical audience, namely me, somebody who is always asking hard questions about deploying troops— then we will do what’s required to keep the American people safe,” Obama said on ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”

Obama also said he suspects there is a predisposition among some military planners to think more troops is the answer to almost any problem.

“There is a natural inclination to say, ‘If I get more, then I can do more,’” Obama said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “But right now, the question is—the first question is, are we doing the right thing? Are we pursuing the right strategy?”

“We’re not going to put the cart before the horse and just think by sending more troops we’re automatically going to make Americans safe,” Obama told CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

Obama had made a focus on the war in Afghanistan a central tenet of his foreign policy when he ran for president – often holding up the decision to invade Afghanistan, home to the 9/11 plotters, as the right move compared to President George W. Bush’s decision to invade Iraq.

And earlier this year, Obama announced a new Afghan strategy and approved sending 21,000 more troops to the eight-year-long war, in part to provide security for the recent national elections. That would bring the total to 68,000 U.S. troops by year’s end.

But now the U.S. commander there, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, is preparing to ask for thousands of more troops, right at a moment when U.S. military deaths in Afghanistan are hitting a peak and polls show a majority of Americans no longer support the war. Also, Obama is facing pressure inside his own party to bring the troops out of Afghanistan.

Obama denied a CNN report that the White House has told McChrystal to hold off on formally requesting the additional forces. The Pentagon is preparing to give the White House a report assessing U.S. strategy in Afghanistan. Officials have said that report will not contain any requests for troop increases, but such a request is expected to come separately soon thereafter from McChrystal.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) picked up on the CNN report to question whether Obama was purposely stalling a decision on the troop increase. He said Republicans would back the president if he decides to send more troops to the war – but McConnell didn’t answer whether he believes more troops are needed now, saying that he trusts the judgment of McChrystal and other generals.

“We think the time for decision is now. As Senator [John] McCain has pointed out, when you delay a decision like this, you may be arguably endangering the lives of our soldiers,” McConnell said on CNN. “The sooner you can make that decision, the better.”
Obama said during the interviews that he inherited a war and a strategy that had gone awry. In the ABC interview, Obama said that when he took office, U.S. efforts in Afghanistan were no longer intensely focused on Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

“When we came in, basically, there had been had been drift in our Afghan strategy. Everybody acknowledges that,” Obama said. “We lost that focus for a while and you started seeing a classic case of mission creep, where we’re just there and we start taking on a whole bunch of different missions.”

Obama also told CNN that narrowing the focus of U.S. operations in Afghanistan will also improve the chances of tracking down and killing Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden.

“If we have a overarching strategy that reminds us every day that that’s our focus… we have a better chance of capturing and killing him and certainly keeping Al Qaida on the run than if we start drifting into a whole bunch of other missions that really aren't related to what is our essential strategic problem and rationale for being there,” the president said.

During his Sunday show interviews, Obama sounded so intent on avoiding “mission creep” that at one point he seemed to rule out any use of American troops in peacekeeping operations that don’t have a direct impact on U.S. security.

“The only reason I send a single young man or woman in uniform anywhere in the world is because I think it’s necessary to keep us safe,” the president said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

If Obama meant to rule out the use of U.S. military personnel to ward off genocide or humanitarian crises, that would be something of a surprise. One of his national security advisers, Samantha Power, is renowned as an advocate of using force to head off massive human rights violations.

The reluctant approach Obama signaled toward the possibility of more troops in Afghanistan sounded broadly consistent with a suggestion his national security adviser, James Jones, made to U.S. commanders during a visit to the country in June. According to the Washington Post, Jones, using a sanitized abbreviation for an expression of surprise, said any request for more troops was likely to cause Obama to experience a “Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? moment.”

Obama did not elaborate Sunday on the other missions which he believes distracted U.S. personnel. However, even as elections went forward in Afghanistan last month, his administration was stepping back from some of the Bush administration’s more ambitious goals for democracy in that country and elsewhere.

In recent months, U.S. military and diplomatic personnel have been more willing to cut deals and make alliances with regional chiefs that some Afghans regard as warlords. There have even been discussions about trying to co-opt elements of the Taliban.

“Afghanistan is very much still a tribal area,” CIA director Leon Panetta told Voice of America last week. “Some of the Taliban are to our discouragement are individuals who are engaging in military actions against the United States…Others are those who we think more concerned about trying to establish some stability. So, you don’t just have one brand of Taliban.”

Obama’s comments came as resistance to more troops is also increasing on Capitol Hill.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said last week that she supports putting time limits on the U.S. military commitment to Afghanistan. “I do not believe we can build a democratic state in Afghanistan. I believe it will remain a tribal entity,” she said.

Others, including Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) have called on Obama to set a flexible timeline for getting out of Afghanistan – much as many Democrats did with Bush on Iraq. Obama didn’t answer directly on whether he supported a timeline, but said his strategy contained “benchmarks” for achievements to assess the progress of the U.S. mission in Afghanistan.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; mullahobama; obama; obamateur; wot
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No surprise here from our Muslim loving president.
1 posted on 09/20/2009 10:16:34 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

How about loosening the ROE dipsh!t?


2 posted on 09/20/2009 10:17:42 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

Bump!


3 posted on 09/20/2009 10:19:14 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
.....saying he’ll approve an upcoming request only if the forces fit into a strategy to beat back al-Qaida and protect the United States.

Huh? WTF does he think more troops are need for? Didn't he listen to the commanders.

4 posted on 09/20/2009 10:20:17 AM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: TruthWillWin
Didn't he listen to the commanders.

In his limited mind, he is the only commander.

5 posted on 09/20/2009 10:22:05 AM PDT by kromike
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To: TruthWillWin

In Zer0 we have another LBJ, commanders are to do as he says.


6 posted on 09/20/2009 10:22:36 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

We just picked up some terrorists IN NYC who had attended camp in Afghanistan. Obama still doesn’t get it.


7 posted on 09/20/2009 10:24:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: jazusamo
Obama's Strategy For Change: Battling Terror in Afghanistan.
8 posted on 09/20/2009 10:24:53 AM PDT by Joiseydude (I'd rather die on my feet, than live on my knees. Live free or die.)
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To: jazusamo

What he is doing is ascribing nefarious motives to those commanders. The recent stories about Pentagon unhappiness with this dumb cluck are only going to increase. This guy is one dumb butt.


9 posted on 09/20/2009 10:25:41 AM PDT by qwertypie
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To: jazusamo

‘68,000 U.S. troops by year’s end’

And throw in the contractors there as well. Afghanistan doesn’t need more troops, but a strategy.


10 posted on 09/20/2009 10:27:14 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Joiseydude

Naaah...

I’m sure he’s be *skeptical* of this type of strategy as well.


11 posted on 09/20/2009 10:28:12 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: jazusamo

Why can’t he just shut up?


12 posted on 09/20/2009 10:28:51 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: qwertypie

When considering the BIG picture, Obama is truly ignorant. When it comes to domestic and foreign policy...he knows EXACTLY what he wants to do. None of it is good for Americans.


13 posted on 09/20/2009 10:30:20 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: jazusamo
You know, I seem to remember, not too long ago, maybe during the campaign that Obummer talked about the need to WIN in Afgan and that Iraq was a distraction.

Now, I guess that the Afgan’s go under the bus, which is a shame, as it will rebound on us down the road.

Just remember you fools that voted for this idiot:

“Hope and Change”!

14 posted on 09/20/2009 10:30:39 AM PDT by lowbuck (The Blue Card (American passport): Don't leave home without it!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Oh, I think he “gets it”.....he’s a MOLE.


15 posted on 09/20/2009 10:31:26 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Democrat party has always been the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism and surrender)
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To: qwertypie
This guy is one dumb butt.

Nope, a well laid out plan to destroy the United States of America.

Our worst enemy is leader of our country.

16 posted on 09/20/2009 10:31:39 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: jazusamo

Why wouldn’t he be skeptical? After all, he has NO military experience, No command or executive experience [the only thing he’s run in his life is his mouth - and then only if the teleprompter is working], no foreign policy experience, or for that matter, vision. All he has is ego, an inability to listen to anyone not buying “the program”, the guile of a street hustler, and a spine composed of overcooked vermicelli.


17 posted on 09/20/2009 10:32:50 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: jazusamo

General Obama not getting things done. I guess Pelosi told him to get out.


18 posted on 09/20/2009 10:32:58 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: randomhero97

It isn’t skepticism, it is traitorism. If not that, it is downright ignorance.

Guys and Gals are dying while the Communist CIC is fiddling.


19 posted on 09/20/2009 10:33:14 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: BGHater

I’m no military strategist but generals McCrystal and Petraeus seem to have come up with a strategy they need more troops for. Just my thought on it.


20 posted on 09/20/2009 10:33:14 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

If this Kenyan SOB doesn’t have a plan that includes defeating the enemy and VICTORY, then send our men and women back home immediately!


21 posted on 09/20/2009 10:33:29 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: jazusamo

Well that’s up to Congress, not the President. Troops come from them.


22 posted on 09/20/2009 10:35:56 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: BGHater

Congress provides the cash, and on occasion, a formal declaration of war. The troops answer to POTUS. That’s why he is the CinC, not Reid/Pelosi [although in this case, that’s no improvement].


23 posted on 09/20/2009 10:38:28 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: brushcop

I agree but remember this Kenyan SOB couldn’t come up with a plan if his own life depended on it and it seems he won’t listen to his commanders, he listens to leftists here at home and around the world.


24 posted on 09/20/2009 10:38:53 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
THE NEED FOR MORE FORCES, ENABLERS, AND TRAINERS

In recent months, our President and many others have highlighted the need for additional forces in Afghanistan to reverse the downward spiral in security, help Afghan forces provide security for the elections on August 20th, and enable progress in the tasks essential to achievement of our objectives. Indeed, as has been announced in recent months, more US forces are entering operations in as part of ISAF in Afghanistan now, more have been ordered to deploy, and the deployment of others is under consideration. Beyond that, the number of Afghan soldiers to be trained and equipped has been increased, and many of the other troop contributing nations will deploy additional forces, as well, with a number of commitments under discussion. And I would be remiss if I did not ask individual countries to examine what forces and other contributions they can provide as ISAF intensifies its efforts in preparation for the elections in August.

General Petraeus in Munich

25 posted on 09/20/2009 10:43:01 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: BGHater

Congress isn’t the CiC, they only hold the purse strings.


26 posted on 09/20/2009 10:43:31 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: PzLdr

BS. We have a President, not a King. The President answers to the Congress, via the formal declaration.

The President has hardly any say on the military.

Congress governs the military as a whole, and for their size during operations.


27 posted on 09/20/2009 10:44:09 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: jazusamo

Nonsense. Congress has almost all the powers over the military, size, regulations, captures of land and sea, etc.


28 posted on 09/20/2009 10:46:46 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Thanks, good post.


29 posted on 09/20/2009 10:47:18 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: randomhero97
Skeptical about more troops? I thought that was what he wanted. Millions of 'volunteers' as numerous, as well-funded, and obedient [to him] as is the US Military.

Oh! He's questioning more US MILITARY troops...funny, that.....must be because they are beholdin' to the Constitution and aren't bound to follow orders that are inherently illegal.

30 posted on 09/20/2009 10:48:07 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: jazusamo
Troops “skeptical” about more Obama.
31 posted on 09/20/2009 10:51:01 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: BGHater

Are you trying to say if Zer0 authorized 30 or 40 thousand more troops Congress would deny him? If you believe that you’re not thinking straight.


32 posted on 09/20/2009 10:51:08 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

now we see the true leftist idiot exposed.


33 posted on 09/20/2009 10:51:54 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: goodnesswins

I am skeptical of his long form bc.


34 posted on 09/20/2009 10:55:19 AM PDT by omega4179 (We must be the change.)
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To: jazusamo

The President ask Congress for the authorization of troop strength. It’s up to them to release them.


35 posted on 09/20/2009 10:55:57 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: jazusamo

And the troops are more and more skeptical of him.


36 posted on 09/20/2009 11:00:15 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: BGHater

You didn’t answer me. Zero and many Dems campaigned on the premise that Afghanistan was the real war. If Zer0 asks for 30 or 40 thousand more troops are you saying they won’t authorize them?

If they do that the Repubs will take back control in 2010 and the RATS know it.


37 posted on 09/20/2009 11:00:17 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

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38 posted on 09/20/2009 11:02:38 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace
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To: AmericanVictory
And the troops are more and more skeptical of him.

They certainly are and for very good reason.

39 posted on 09/20/2009 11:03:42 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

No big surprise. Afghanistan was a charade to make the community organizer look strong on national security (i.e. the good war). When the going gets tough though, the left run and hide. As usual.


40 posted on 09/20/2009 11:04:14 AM PDT by nhwingut (The media's love affair with Obama reminds me of a dog humping a telephone pole.)
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To: jazusamo

It depends on the GOP. They don’t have to say anything, since it’s Obama’s ‘War’.

The GOP has enough ammo to go after the Dems in 2010, if we make it.


41 posted on 09/20/2009 11:05:01 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: BGHater

:-)

Do you think the RATS in Congress would vote to deny him if he asks for more troops?


42 posted on 09/20/2009 11:07:50 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Rats fleeing a sinking ship will do many different things.

It depends on the Rat, if it’s a anti-war rat, they might vote against it. The Blue dogs, might have to do something else.


43 posted on 09/20/2009 11:10:50 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: jazusamo

The Big O has the “right” as Commander in Chief to be skeptical, of course. But like LBJ, he has neither the education nor experience nor the will to make his skepticism worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit. His self-importance, like LBJ’s, is going to get a lot of our soldiers and airmen killed.

I have many friends in Afghanistan and Iraq, and more going. I pray for them daily.


44 posted on 09/20/2009 11:11:01 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: jazusamo

Whose side is he on?


45 posted on 09/20/2009 11:12:25 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: BGHater

That is a reasonable answer. :-)


46 posted on 09/20/2009 11:12:36 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: qwertypie

Can you please provide links these stories? I have not run into anything that is more than chatter.


47 posted on 09/20/2009 11:13:03 AM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: jazusamo

” “We think the time for decision is now.
As Senator [John] McCain has pointed out, when you delay a decision like this, you may be arguably endangering the lives of our soldiers,” McConnell said on CNN. “

May be ??? Heeelllooooo
I don’t know one military family who has any confidence in Barry as CinC.
Because of his political dithering and waffling ,
his crap ROEs which handcuff the troops and cost lives,
his suffocation of the intelligence community and
his overwhelming disdain for the military and America.
All during the campaign, Macho Man bragged that he was going to be a better Commander in Chief than GW,
that he was going to “ kill “ Osama bin Laden and in fact, he was going to invade Pockeystan.
The troops would have everything they need to fight the WOT.
And now, he flicks the troops and the war effort away like a he flings a cigarette butt onto the White House lawn.
It’s good that Republicans are starting to emerge from their slumber and challenging Obama’s
laissez-faire attitude toward the war and troop deaths.
I fear what it’s going to take to finally wake up every American .
And more and more are starting to murmur that Obama is undercutting and abandoning our troops in war time ,
on purpose.


48 posted on 09/20/2009 11:15:07 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Cincinnatus.45-70

Well said and the first thing to be done is change the ROE so our troops can protect themselves.

Prayers for them all that are in harms way.


49 posted on 09/20/2009 11:16:31 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

This wouldn’t be the first surge he was skeptical of. He’s invaribly wrong.


50 posted on 09/20/2009 11:19:04 AM PDT by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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