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Scientist says CO2 ‘good for planet’
http://www.codyenterprise.com ^ | Sept 22, 2009 | By Kristen Inbody

Posted on 09/21/2009 9:12:15 PM PDT by Maelstorm

There’s good news on the global climate change front: All that carbon dioxide blamed for global warming is actually good for our planet, says Cody scientist and writer Leighton Steward.

“The earth’s atmosphere needs more carbon dioxide,” he said at a recent Rotary Club meeting. “That ought to get everyone’s attention.”

The CO2 level now is about 385 parts per million. It’s been as high as 7,000 during the earth’s history. *

“Climate is always changing,” he said. “You should never expect climate at an equilibrium, and history shows it’s not.”

More CO2 means better crops and forests, Steward says, but not necessarily a warmer planet since other factors play a bigger role in heating the planet.

“This relates directly to the food supply,” he said. “Green is good, and CO2 is very green.”

CO2 boosts plant growth, making them larger, faster-growing and more drought tolerant with better roots. Steward calls that good news in a world with a growing population.

“When you’re deciding what ought to be done, think about what this could do for mankind,” he said.

Taking CO2 back to pre-industrial levels would degrade habitats and push people into starvation, Steward said.

“CO2 is not a pollutant. It’s the stuff of life. I can’t find anything that’s not beneficial,” he said. “This comes from thousands of studies – mainly from the agricultural community, and these are not casual observers.”

Spending billions and enacting draconian restrictions to fight a “pollutant” that’s not a pollutant isn’t helping anyone, he said.

“If we let our factories continue to manufacture, that’s not necessarily bad and might be good,” he said. “We (pro-CO2 groups) are greener than all the green organizations lobbying to reduce CO2.”

It’s a message scientists across the world are trying to promote, and Steward cited numerous studies.

When he started researching climate change four years ago, Steward found there are 18 “drivers” of climate change, including things like variation in the shape of the earth’s orbit, sunspots and the magnetic effect of the sun.

CO2’s ability to trap heat declines logarithmically, so a great deal of the gas makes a big difference, but as the level dips the difference it makes drops exponentially.

That means doubling the current concentration of CO2 would only make a .2 degree difference, he said.

If CO2 was a significant factor in global warming, temperatures would have risen – as modeling predicted – instead of declining since 2001.

“It’s hard to argue with that,” he said. “They did not predict in any of their models that it would be cooling.”

Since the Industrial Revolution, people have pumped CO2 into the atmosphere and temperature has generally risen, though not always.

“These are natural trends,” he said. “Look at the magnitude of climate variation. Huge swings of 10, 15, 20 degrees.”

Former vice president Al Gore got facts wrong in his documentary, “An Inconvenient Truth,” Steward said.

“Clearly things were absolutely false in some cases and misleading in other cases,” he said.

For example, Gore said the earth was warming at an unprecedented rate. However, in the 1920s and ’30s, the temperature increase was more dramatic, Steward said.

Contrary to Gore’s findings, cyclone and tornado strength is actually down now, says Steward, a geologist and retired energy industry executive. He is a trustee at the Buffalo Bill Historical Center and lives on the North Fork and in Texas.

Steward, the author of the best-seller “Sugar Busters,” recently published “Fire, Ice and Paradise” on climate change.

This summer, he organized a non-profit organization, “Plants Need CO2,” with the mission, “To educate the public on the positive effects of additional atmospheric CO2 and help prevent the inadvertent negative impact to human, plant and animal life if we reduce CO2.”

More than half the contributions to his group are from the coal industry, he said. CO2 is released during the burning of fossil fuels, among other sources.

“I’m not getting a penny for doing this,” he added. “It’s just something people of the earth ought to know.”


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“CO2 is not a pollutant. It’s the stuff of life. I can’t find anything that’s not beneficial,” he said. “This comes from thousands of studies – mainly from the agricultural community, and these are not casual observers.”
1 posted on 09/21/2009 9:12:16 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Greenies (maybe we should call them Brownies) just stick fingers in ears and go “la-la-la-la we can’t hear you, you prostitute to Big Oil”


2 posted on 09/21/2009 9:21:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: Maelstorm

Got into a pointless debate with a few liberals after a party.

Long story short, all of my points based on real science weren’t valid because I wasn’t a scientist, and although they weren’t scientists either their position was that scientific consensus supported their argument. Of course, points refuting scientific consensus were invalid because people who were against Anthropological Global Warming were religious nut cases.

Yes, I realize the whole debate was futile, but there was undecided in their group and they deserved to hear that there was a great deal more information out there than what he was led to believe was true. I think I got through on some points but if those liberals are his friends, then chances are he’ll have to eventually convert to their way of thinking all the way or they’ll shun him.


3 posted on 09/21/2009 9:22:32 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Maelstorm
There’s good news on the global climate change front: All that carbon dioxide blamed for global warming is actually good for our planet, says Cody scientist and writer Leighton Steward...So too says Freeman Dyson, physicist at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Princeton, NJ (think Albert Einstein's old home)...Dyson says the computer models that have been promising global warming do a terrible job of predicting, and that the CO2 which is supposed to be so bad for us actually is quite beneficial to the planet, among other things encouraging vigorous plant growth - poor Charlie Rose who was nterviewing him at the time almost fell off of his chair when he heard these heresies......
4 posted on 09/21/2009 9:24:44 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Maelstorm

The scare mongers and econuts with an agenda hate it when someone like Mr. Steward comes along and speaks common sense.


5 posted on 09/21/2009 9:26:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Maelstorm

He’s correct but the left will crucify him.


6 posted on 09/21/2009 9:26:41 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Maelstorm

Am I glad you came up with that — I was afraid they were gonna put a carbon tax on CO2 emissions from my sourdough pancakes!!


7 posted on 09/21/2009 9:27:00 PM PDT by TiaS
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To: Maelstorm
"he CO2 level now is about 385 parts per million. It’s been as high as 7,000 during the earth’s history. *
“Climate is always changing,” he said. “You should never expect climate at an equilibrium, and history shows it’s not.”
More CO2 means better crops and forests, Steward says, but not necessarily a warmer planet since other factors play a bigger role in heating the planet.
“CO2 is not a pollutant. It’s the stuff of life. I can’t find anything that’s not beneficial,” he said. “This comes from thousands of studies – mainly from the agricultural community, and these are not casual observers.” “This relates directly to the food supply,” he said. “Green is good, and CO2 is very green.”

It's not often you see the real truth spoken these days.

8 posted on 09/21/2009 9:27:26 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

It’s really difficult for man to out-heat, or out-cool, Mother Nature.


9 posted on 09/21/2009 9:29:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Love me, love my cat.)
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To: Maelstorm

Ping.


10 posted on 09/21/2009 9:30:31 PM PDT by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Maelstorm
The Global Warming hoax is nothing but population control at best, and genocide at worst.
11 posted on 09/21/2009 9:31:20 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Maelstorm
Who knows? What if the planet Earth is about to enter another ice age but it was prevented by polluters and your SUV? You are a hero to mankind every time you drive that Hummer. You saved the world!

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12 posted on 09/21/2009 9:33:50 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: coconutt2000
although they weren’t scientists either their position was that scientific consensus supported their argument

Science is not about finding consensus.

Science is about questioning consensus.

Politics, on the other hand,...

13 posted on 09/21/2009 9:37:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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To: steelyourfaith
*Ping!*
14 posted on 09/21/2009 9:38:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (So many Communists, so little time.)
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To: xcamel

ping


15 posted on 09/21/2009 9:38:20 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Maelstorm

I’ve been saying the same thing for years. It’s the way you turn carbon into becoming part of living things. Locked up in the Earth that carbon is not helping anything.


16 posted on 09/21/2009 9:39:04 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Maelstorm

Or the DNC, Al Gore, 0bama and the hip hop GREEN Van Jones caucus; won't make billions of dollars duping us.

17 posted on 09/21/2009 9:39:13 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: Maelstorm

Imagine that a carbon based gas being good for carbon based life forms!?! Will wonders never cease?


18 posted on 09/21/2009 9:42:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Maelstorm
A fine way to gratuitously add CO2 to the environment.

19 posted on 09/21/2009 9:45:11 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Maelstorm

Wow - dare I hope for an eventual return to sanity? A ray of hope... for a change?


20 posted on 09/21/2009 9:45:33 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: coconutt2000

When confronted with Gorebal Warming fear, I bring up the fact that around 1000 AD the Vikings grew grain in Greenland (which is now under permafrost). Then I ask them about the shrinking ice caps on Mars.


21 posted on 09/21/2009 9:46:55 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Maelstorm

And to think...0bama is shaking in his boots about getting scolded about this at the U.N. in PA. in a few days because we are not ahead in the carbon footprint green crap con game. NEWSFLASH TO 0BAMA: The world hates us no matter what we do, stop selling us out!!!


22 posted on 09/21/2009 9:47:08 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It’s really difficult for man to out-heat, or out-cool, Mother Nature.

Mother Nature is really HOT!!! And way COOL too :)

23 posted on 09/21/2009 9:48:53 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: TigersEye; June K.
Carbon is the essence of all life on Earth, and when mixed with Oxygen does quite a few wonderful things also ...

Now, if we could only get rid of that dreaded DiHydrogen Monoxide menace (H20) all would be right in the world ...

/sarc off (of course)

24 posted on 09/21/2009 10:04:16 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Maelstorm
The oxygen/carbon dioxide cycle, i.e. photosynthesis, used to be basic high school freshman biology. I always wondered why nobody seemed to wonder what effect reducing carbon dioxide levels would have on plant growth...
25 posted on 09/21/2009 10:07:30 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Sprit of '76)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
I know it's the basis of life. When I first heard, on the radio, that CA had imposed fines for polluting with too much CO2 from cars, back in the '90s, I thought it was simply a broadcaster's mistake. I thought he must have meant carbon monoxide.

When I learned a short time later that they really did mean CO2 I just shook my head. Even with only a high school education in chemistry and biology I knew it was fence-post stupid to call CO2 a pollutant.

26 posted on 09/21/2009 10:14:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Maelstorm

Intelligence and common sense have no place in a society run by bloomin idiots.


27 posted on 09/21/2009 10:24:27 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Maelstorm

CO2, is Carbon dioxide. Plants need it to make food with. Oxygen is used to digest the food the plans make. Without carbon dioxide, no plants.


28 posted on 09/21/2009 10:37:49 PM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: television is just wrong

CO2, is Carbon dioxide. Plants need it to make food with. Oxygen is used to digest the food the plants make. Without carbon dioxide, no plants. No plants, NO US.


29 posted on 09/21/2009 10:40:36 PM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: coconutt2000; All

all young growing plants say:

C02, its whats for supper !

coco, et al, get ahold of the video “The Great Global Warming Swindle”. its available on amazon, but apparently now takes some time to get a copy... i got 3 last Christmas for me & family.

i highly recommend this film. its all facts & contains some extra excerpts from interviews w various experts including one who was an iccp contributor at one point. he had to threaten a law suit to get his name off their contributor list. also a co-founder of greenpeace states that living things are abundant & thriving where its warm & very limited where there is frost. frost kills. compare animal population densities at Sao Paulo Brazil to Antarctic research stations.

it was available on revver.com as a downloadable or watch on site movie... its there now but there website gave me an error & wouldn’t load it...

good hunting.


30 posted on 09/22/2009 12:23:49 AM PDT by Psalm_2 (Break up your fallow ground, For it is time to seek the LORD Until He comes..Hos10:12)
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To: coconutt2000

its on youtube

“The Great Global Warming Swindle”


31 posted on 09/22/2009 12:28:57 AM PDT by Psalm_2 (Break up your fallow ground, For it is time to seek the LORD Until He comes..Hos10:12)
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To: rabscuttle385; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; ...
Thanx rabscuttle385 !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

32 posted on 09/22/2009 1:45:38 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: coconutt2000
you know what throws off libs more then anything. Tell them we are still in an ice age specifically a short 10k year warm period in the early stages of an ice age. Then ask.. why are we worried about warmer weather during an ice age?

they will think you are nuts but it is true.
http://www.epa.gov/gmpo/edresources/pleistocene.html

The EPA gives numbers when we will be 'officially' back into glaciation but we will be totally screwed long before that. first signs of glaciation will be world wide drought more so then noticeable cold weather.

33 posted on 09/22/2009 1:48:05 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Maelstorm

CO2 is plant food.


34 posted on 09/22/2009 1:49:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Mr. Obama, I will not join your plantation.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Great catch.

From the site:

There is debate in the scientific community about what caused the glaciers to advance and retreat, but current theory attributes it to astronomical causes. Because of variations in the earth's orbit, average summer and winter temperatures change with time. There are periods when winters are colder and summers hotter, followed by periods when winters are warmer and summers cooler. The latter are thought to produce glacial advances, because the cooler summers are not adequate to melt all of the previous winter's snow. The result is that snow and ice begin to accumulate from one winter to the next. During periods when summers were warmer, and winters cooler, the glaciers are thought to have retreated. During the Pleistocene epoch, two or more centers of glaciation in Canada probably joined to form one large sheet of ice.

No mention of people causing glaciers to advance or retreat. They must have forgotten the obligatory "human caused global warming" phrase.

35 posted on 09/22/2009 3:28:32 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Maelstorm; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; SideoutFred; ...
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



36 posted on 09/22/2009 3:31:25 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: American Constitutionalist
The Global Warming hoax is nothing but population control at best, and genocide at worst.

Always has been. Especially population control of countries that are not communist or socialist. ....and those overpopulated warlord-run countries... keep sending in diseases too but just can't seen to wipe out those vermin sub-humans. Worse than cockroaches, they are.

37 posted on 09/22/2009 3:43:37 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Maelstorm

The Warmers should be kissing the feet of CO2 rather than declaring it a poison.


38 posted on 09/22/2009 4:34:37 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Maelstorm

The Warmers should be kissing the feet of CO2 rather than declaring it a poison.


39 posted on 09/22/2009 4:34:47 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Maelstorm

The Warmers should be kissing the feet of CO2 rather than declaring it a poison.


40 posted on 09/22/2009 4:35:36 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Maelstorm

I read something in Science about the ultimate demise of life on earth from decreasing carbon dioxide levels, and spent quite a while searching for it. I didn’t find the exact article, but I found it referenced here:

California Institute of Technology (2009, June 13). Life May Extend Planet’s ‘Life’: Billion-year Life Extension For Earth Also Doubles Odds Of Finding Life On Other Planets. ScienceDaily. http://www.sciencedaily.com­; /releases/2009/06/090612203303.htm

And I found this interesting blog, which also mentions the study I was looking for:

http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/too-little-co2-end-life-earth

I think there’s a risk of doing real harm by trying to decrease CO2 levels in the atmosphere. One scheme I read about involved dumping iron into the ocean to fertilize it and encourage algae growth—who ever came up with that obviously was not around when it was discovered that algae growth fueled by phosphates was causing fish kills back in the 70s, which is why the use of phosphates in detergents was drastically reduced.


41 posted on 09/22/2009 5:01:48 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: coconutt2000
"debate was futile"

You never know. You might have planted a seed of doubt in one those people's minds. The problem with many libs is that they don't doubt what their leaders tell them. And they don't really dig much themselves. A little reality thrown into their faces might be a good thing.

42 posted on 09/22/2009 5:25:23 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Maelstorm

Wow, an educated adult stating a simple fact we all learned in 4th grade Science...
IT’S MADNESS, I TELL YOU, UTTER MADNESS!
; )


43 posted on 09/22/2009 5:31:27 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Ignore us at your peril.)
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To: Maelstorm

Compared to Madoff, how many millions of dollars has Algore bilked for carbon credits?


44 posted on 09/22/2009 5:39:03 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: I see my hands

That’s a pretty cool device!!


45 posted on 09/22/2009 5:58:06 AM PDT by Jackknife (Chuck Norris grinds his coffee with his teeth, and boils his water with his rage)
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To: Maelstorm

CO2 is good for the planet and Al Gore’s bank account, but it is not a polutant; it is essential for life.


46 posted on 09/22/2009 6:29:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, you stop lying; we'll stop callin' you a LIAR.)
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To: TigersEye

Yeah, and our learned in the law Supreme Court has designated carbon dioxide as a pollutant. They are very poor scientists, though.

At that point, I realized this is a stacked game.


47 posted on 09/22/2009 6:54:05 AM PDT by Ole Okie (American)
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To: Grizzled Bear; coconutt2000

At the same time that the Vikings were flourishing (well a century or two later maybe) there is strong evidence that Marco Polo sailed an ice-free Arctic Ocean all the way over to Greenland. He “saw the Pole Star in the South” (by compass) according to one of his journals, and drew a map of the north coast of Canada. An iceless Arctic Ocean is not without precedent.


48 posted on 09/22/2009 7:04:41 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: Mr_Moonlight
Not to nitpick, but don't you mean H2O?
49 posted on 09/22/2009 7:14:02 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: coconutt2000

Next time you get into such a discussion, tell your friends that you KNOW a scientist personally who has been working on this subject for over a decade- me, who states flat out that the IPCC and the climate models are WRONG. In fact, one of the major climate modelers recently admitted they are wrong. I tell you that there are many more scientists who agree with me than with alGore; the IPCC is a political organization, not a scientific one. Tell them about the firestorms raging in the American Chemical Society due to their journal editor writing “science is settled” silliness. The American Physical Society is similarly under attack for their stupid philosophy. The Australians came over to consult with the US gov’t about the “science” and when they returned to Australia, they reversed their “climate change” CO2 restrictions because the science is so lacking. Japanese, Russian, Canadian, and many other nations are completely in disagreement with the IPCC.

Use me, a scientist you know who has studied the subject at length, for credibility.


50 posted on 09/22/2009 7:14:25 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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