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KEYES v OBAMA OPPOSITION to MOTION to Dismiss Case ; AND MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES
Scribd ^ | September 21, 2009 | Orly Taitz

Posted on 09/21/2009 10:11:47 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Safrguns

I have faith in this judge. If he loves the Constitution and rules on that basis, she nailed it.
I actually love everything she said. Maybe the judge will too. It could have been any one of us pleading for redress. Bless her.


51 posted on 09/21/2009 11:48:27 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: ReneeLynn

>>> Oookay. So, they can find something out now that they couldn’t find out before because the MTD has no merit? Is that it?

Thats the core of the arguments surrounding the notion that so far, the plaintiffs in this case and in others have been denied legal redress for “political” reasons.... when the courts should be above politics.

IOW, I think they were saying that the MTD is politically motivated, and has no basis in law.


52 posted on 09/21/2009 11:49:41 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: El Gato

>>> Parts of it, but I don’t think Keyes would have used the phrase “Truth, Justice and the American Way”..or would he?

I’ve heard him say it more than once.
The hypothetical slavery argument was also a giveaway.


53 posted on 09/21/2009 11:52:03 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Red Steel

Since the law today is anything the judges want it to be, the merits of the argument are irrelevant. But good luck anyway.


54 posted on 09/21/2009 11:52:29 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: etraveler13
Thanks, I thought I was better up on this. They better get a chance to do a forensic examination of these documents.
55 posted on 09/21/2009 11:54:39 PM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.)
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To: MestaMachine

>>> I have faith in this judge. If he loves the Constitution and rules on that basis, she nailed it.

Well, I hope you are right... but if we are wrong, and politics trumps law yet again, be rest assured that judges will soon change their tune when innocent people start glowing on US soil.


56 posted on 09/21/2009 11:54:57 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: El Gato

I do remember listening to Plains Radio when Leo had his case at SCOTUS. They brought on Orly and Gary Kreep. This is before those tow had a falling out.

Orly was very complimentary towards Leo and thanked him. She and Leo are not your standard attorneys but they are both very smart. I would bet she and Leo talked as this was drafted.


57 posted on 09/21/2009 11:58:02 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Red Steel

22 Days


58 posted on 09/22/2009 12:04:02 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Frantzie
He was wonded at Khe Sanh in Vietnam and received a Purple Heart and Bronze Star.

He was wounded so badly that they were starting to put him a body bag, when they realized he was still alive. He was in a hospital for a year recuperating from his wounds.

In researching him, I've come across lots of cases of praise, by and for him, in conjunction with Veterans groups and former South Vietnamese military and their children. One story, related by the Son of a South Vietnamese pilot who spent twelve years in "re-education camps" told of Carter giving his father the oath of naturalization. That son is/was a Major in the USMC reserves.

The Speech he gave at the Khe Sanh Memorial on 21 Jan 2008. It was good to see you Eugene, and thank you for your service to our nation. Were you able to obtain the marvelous speech from Judge Carter? My late father was in the Vietnamese Air Force's 2nd Fighter Squadron which was formed in 1961 with the help of Farmgate.
www.phamvanhoa.com

He was very proud of his service and his USAF affiliation. As one of the first 15 US-trained South Vietnamese pilots, he was winged in 1959 at Reese AFB in Lubbock then flew T28s, A1s, C47s, AC47s, C123s, and C130s and was a graduate of the Air Commando School at Hurlburt in 1966. I have a picture of Judge Carter and my father from 1999 at his citizenship ceremony in LA, a proud moment in his life as he was grateful to America for taking care of his family while he sur- vived 12 years in reeducation camps. Regards, Quang X. Pham, Maj USMC Reserves

59 posted on 09/22/2009 12:06:35 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Frantzie

By this time I would think Orly would have a fairly extensive attorney ghostwriting team behind her helping draft important filings such as this one.

I also wonder if Carter is getting some unofficial heat from certain quarters— both carrot and stick in nature (not saying he would accept it)...


60 posted on 09/22/2009 12:06:54 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: MestaMachine

Ditto that... prayer is constant...


61 posted on 09/22/2009 12:08:33 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Frantzie

bttt


62 posted on 09/22/2009 12:09:14 AM PDT by RebelTex
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To: Safrguns
The hypothetical slavery argument was also a giveaway.

Yes, that "take it to the extreme" example did sound like Keyes.

I guess there is no law or rule that says a plaintiff can't help his attorney prepare their case.

63 posted on 09/22/2009 12:10:34 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

An incredible man. I am sure he understands The Constitution better than anyone. I am sure he also realizes that Marines are dying due to the insane CIC’s new ROE in Afghan and the situation appears to be getting worse. Judge Carter went there.

Great job by Orly, Leo and others who helped in the filing. Say prayers for Judge Carter.


64 posted on 09/22/2009 12:15:13 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: SteveH

I think Orly has help and I think O/DOJ added more help after the DOj attorneys screwed up.

The stakes are going up rapidly.

Judge Carter may be getting heat but he lived through Khe Sanh which should make Chicgao thugs look like a walk in the park.


65 posted on 09/22/2009 12:18:53 AM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: Frantzie
I am sure he also realizes that Marines are dying due to the insane CIC’s new ROE in Afghan and the situation appears to be getting worse.

While that's not relavant to the case before him, it might at least serve to keep his mind open, rather than closed tighter than a bull's arse in fly time, as those of other judges seem to have been.

Here's hoping that Judge Carter's security is airtight, and provided by the likes of Major Pham and his buddies, including at least a platoon of Gunnies. (Reserve or retired)

66 posted on 09/22/2009 12:21:06 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: JoSixChip

Yes, here is a link:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/09/21/pending-litigation-hawaii-confirms-that-obamas-vital-records-have-been-amended/

This is Leo Donofrio’s blog. He will be representing Terrick (better known as ‘Miss Tickly’ of FreeRepublic) in this Hawaiian court case. Hopefully, it will have a hearing.


67 posted on 09/22/2009 12:33:19 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll
Thanks, I am beside myself over all this because no one in the media has picked-up on any of this. So much for the bias of fox, rush or hanity. After all the crap over Bush's military records and yet not a single document from obumbers past. This is truly the twilight zone.
68 posted on 09/22/2009 1:06:25 AM PDT by JoSixChip (The only thing broken in this country is the government.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

>Or they could be getting hot water bottles for their big fat headaches now.

LOL! Best of day!


69 posted on 09/22/2009 1:13:40 AM PDT by ROTB ("By any means necessary" apparently includes helping pimp underage sex slaves, and serial lying.)
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To: Frantzie

Or maybe they’re getting new ‘talking points’ which they need badly!


70 posted on 09/22/2009 1:54:20 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: LucyT; FARS; STARWISE

pong; pong; pong


71 posted on 09/22/2009 2:13:51 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red Steel
Out in 30 days:
The question is not one of precedent, the question is whether politics dictate the outcome in many or most Obama-related cases, where avoiding discovery and fact-finding is the primary (and outcome-determinative) goal. Plaintiff submits that if discovery is ever allowed in this case, it will be rapidly settled by the resignation or impeachment of the President.

72 posted on 09/22/2009 2:23:23 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: sneakers

bump


73 posted on 09/22/2009 2:37:47 AM PDT by sneakers (Indiana (Pa) Patriots: www.standtoo.com)
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To: Frantzie

I have said this a million times one FR.

My son was granted a Make A Wish.
3 times on a vent in his life.

He asked to meet Alan Keyes.

Best Day of our Political/Catholic lives.
Neighbors even brought down and set up the silver. (I had know clue)

To this Day when you come into our home the first Pic (next to the sons diploma) is Dr. Alan Keyes and a Very (slim then 170lbs now) son.

Every 2 weeks our very Conservative Priest brings us the Holy Body Of Christ ...my son recieves it via his feeding tube and I bow my head and recieve it by mouth/orally.

Father walks the hall out to the door onto another home bound one to give this gift too.

He most of the time stops and points to Alan in that photo with my son and says....THAT IS A GOOD MAN.. which I say Yes Father the REAL first shoulda been Black POTUS.

We shake our heads and repeat it the next visit.

Not the Pride that Alan has at times exerted, but the faith of his Catholic teachings.

Like all humans we have seen him hoity but in the end we still support his Conservative Catholic teachings.

And it is ok to do a mosh pit, KV tried it too from afar and asked what flowers were burning.

Eugene Oregon yall figure it out.
Back to the Bill Gaither concerts.


74 posted on 09/22/2009 2:50:56 AM PDT by Global2010 (Strange We Can Believe In)
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To: trumandogz

What does that mean, 22 days.

And yes I never Get It.

So asking, not dumb just things fly over the mind. Help me FRiend.


75 posted on 09/22/2009 2:53:36 AM PDT by Global2010 (Strange We Can Believe In)
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To: El Gato

Did yall read his view on reperations or are you taking it out of context.

He wrote a whole dang book on it.

Yet he has summed it up.

Not what you are saying.

Crap were is Eternal Vigelance when you need him.


76 posted on 09/22/2009 2:56:47 AM PDT by Global2010 (Strange We Can Believe In)
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To: Frantzie

Hey How come we are not getting any war news now a days.

I have been interested in what is happening in Afghan/Iran/Iraq.

Not finding any factual news reports.

( I do not have streaming vid or utube)


77 posted on 09/22/2009 2:59:48 AM PDT by Global2010 (Strange We Can Believe In)
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To: All
a new Luca Smith certificate is out. This time he remembers to list a birthplace. Photobucket Lucas Smith First Obama Birth Certificate
79 posted on 09/22/2009 3:38:23 AM PDT by Mik Taerg
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To: Mik Taerg

chuckle


80 posted on 09/22/2009 4:22:18 AM PDT by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: Cosimo de Medici
Monday, September 21, 2009
The Equinox

???

81 posted on 09/22/2009 4:41:48 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: F15Eagle
Would love to see Alan Keyes able to call Barry out on this.

Same here, as this has implications that could also affect the 2004 Illinois Senate race Keyes vs. Soetoro - could get ugly for Barry if he turns out to be a non-citizen. Let's see what happens when Obots and Enablers try calling Keyes a RACIST!
82 posted on 09/22/2009 5:05:03 AM PDT by thecraw (Follower of Jesus...American...Tennessean...Birther! You Betcha!)
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To: matthew fuller
"I knew, and so stated here on FR, that Buckwheat's August 2008 "vacation" was a birth certificate repair mission."

Hell ... a LOT of us knew those TWO trips just prior to the "election" were dark ops of SOME kind.

I was duly reprimanded here when I stated that zero had gone to see (to it that) gra'maw died before she could make any trouble. I had no proof, it was all speculation.


Then ... I just read about this guy that was shot in his car ... and another guy died of an aspirin overdose ......

83 posted on 09/22/2009 5:15:39 AM PDT by knarf
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To: LucyT

Thanks, LucyT.

Fingers crossed and prayers continue. Hoping for good news after another long day of driving.


86 posted on 09/22/2009 5:24:36 AM PDT by azishot
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To: Cosimo de Medici
Hey, Alan Keyes is the best candidate that the KKK could buy

I see the Obot trolls have awakened from their deep slumber...
87 posted on 09/22/2009 5:41:19 AM PDT by thecraw (Follower of Jesus...American...Tennessean...Birther! You Betcha!)
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To: Cosimo de Medici

Welcome to FR.


88 posted on 09/22/2009 5:43:52 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Keep your powder dry, and your iron hidden.)
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To: Frantzie

“Judge Carter may be getting heat but he lived through Khe Sanh which should make Chicgao thugs look like a walk in the park.”

Good point.


89 posted on 09/22/2009 5:45:45 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Cosimo de Medici; darkwing104; Old Sarge

You joined FR to post this drivel?


90 posted on 09/22/2009 5:47:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: pickyourpoison

bttt


91 posted on 09/22/2009 6:17:11 AM PDT by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: knarf
Hell ... a LOT of us knew those TWO trips just prior to the "election" were dark ops of SOME kind.

The final stages of the Dark Op Mission:



92 posted on 09/22/2009 6:21:43 AM PDT by thecraw (Follower of Jesus...American...Tennessean...Birther! You Betcha!)
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To: Red Steel
"Plaintiffs’complaint and evidence allege and confirm that the Presidency in 2008 was taken by fraud, and not even by fraud in the counting of votes, but by fraud in the traditional common law sense of a material misrepresentation of an important fact upon which Plaintiffs could be reasonably expected to rely to their detriment, and to the detriment of constitutional government. The Constitution’s textual commitment of this responsibility is a responsibility that Congress has embraced. Both the House and the Sentate have standing committees with jurisdiction to decide questions relating to Presidential elections. Idem: Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss at 13, ll 1517. Where Congress has done absolutely nothing to investigate or prosecute a question, Defendants’ position appears to be that this very inaction or acquiescence by Congress creates a presumption of legitimacy. Apparently, Defendants would have this Court believe, hold, rule, and accept that utter and complete inaction, stony silence even by the Vice‐President of an opposing party sitting as President of the Senate during the certification of the electoral vote to Congress pursuant to 3 U.S.C. §15, is and must be sufficient to satisfy the people that the President has met the Constitutional qualifications for office."

Well Done, Orly.

93 posted on 09/22/2009 6:27:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Cosimo de Medici

Does your mother know you’re still an @$$hole?


94 posted on 09/22/2009 6:37:11 AM PDT by knarf
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To: ReneeLynn

In a nutshell, the response is saying that Congress and the Electoral College failed in its duty to determine the eligibility of Obama to be POTUS and that because they failed in their duty, the people have the right to demand that the zero’s qualifications be presented for public examination.


95 posted on 09/22/2009 6:38:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: jarofants

See my post #95.


96 posted on 09/22/2009 6:42:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Red Steel

bump


97 posted on 09/22/2009 6:44:43 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Mik Taerg

Get lost, O-sniffer


98 posted on 09/22/2009 7:29:06 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


99 posted on 09/22/2009 7:35:37 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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100 posted on 09/22/2009 7:53:39 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Marking Time On The Government's Dime)
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