Skip to comments.Per Fox News: "WH Tells Insurers To Stop Critizing Health Plan" (Breaking)
Posted on 09/22/2009 7:55:51 AM PDT by 444Flyer
*Per Live Interview with Mike Tuffin of American Health Insurance Plans:
*Regarding "Humana letter" sent out to Seniors (in regards to Obama Health Care proposed policy).
*Insurance Companys have been told by the White House to withdraw letter to Seniors.
*WH: "STOP SCARING SENIORS"
*Mike Tuffin: "Infrigement on Freedom of Speech."
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
I caught the tail end of the interview, but took notes on what I could catch.
Anyone have info on this?
Blatant attack on freedom of speech!!!
I hope Humana takes Zer0 to court for attempting to restrict Free Speech. They must not back down.
Nah. It's just that mean-spirited RACIST speech that they're stopping...everyone is for that, huh?
Too late Obozo. Seniors are on to you.
Pathetic, Desperate, and Disgusting.
To quote the great philospher, John McEnroe: “You cannot be serious!”
This is like playground talk in elementary school when one kid yells out to another...”stop it, shut up, you’re huring my feelings!” The White House has got to learn how to take criticism as well as dish it out. They also desperately need to become more objective about the global warming issue. Their statements that “the scientific debate is over” are absolutely false and are filled with an autocratic kind of arrogance that most people can’t stand. These WH staffers need to learn to debate and persuade instead of trying to dictate policy.
I saw a thread on this yesterday.
My disgust with this administration grows...exponentially.
I heard a short blurb on the radio this morning that the Obama administration is consider suing insurance companies who try to “scare” people about a government insurance plan. This was said without any hint that there’s something seriously wrong with the statement.
Joan Rivers needs to visit the White House and tell everyone...”oh, grow up.”
Thanks for taking notes. I caught the last half and promptly came to FR to get the down low. This is really chilling.
Thanks. I’ll look for it. Maybe this is a follow up interview to that story?
The White House machine is attempting to dictate who can run for public office (Governors,) is proposing to bailout (control) the print media, controls much of the tv media, is using the publicaly funded NEA to create state-agendized art and is trying to quash free speech. The White House regularly holds call-ins for interest groups to rally them to their agenda. Sounds more and more like a Chavez or Mao dictatorship to me.
Mike Tuffin disagrees with Obama, so he must be a racist.
Before the end of the day, Mike Tuffin, as well as all citizens associated with American Health Insurance Plans, will find themselves listed as domestic terrorist suspect, with those of us with military experience, guns and bibles.
Obama, DON’T TREAD ON ME.
The Insurance Company should say
BRING IT ON BEEEEEECH
HHS investigates Humana for Medicare mailer warning seniors on health overhaul
By: RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR
09/22/09 12:15 AM PDT WASHINGTON The Obama administration warned insurance companies Monday they face possible legal action for allegedly trying to scare seniors with misleading information about the potential for lost benefits under health care legislation in Congress.
“As we continue our research into this issue, we are instructing you to immediately discontinue all such mailings to beneficiaries and to remove any related materials directed to Medicare enrollees from your Web sites,” said a notice from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid.
Teresa DeCaro, an agency official, sent the notice to all companies that sell private Medicare coverage and stand-alone drug plans to seniors. The warning came as President Barack Obama’s health care legislation is moving toward key tests in a Senate committee over the next several days, and with public polls showing widespread skepticism among seniors.
In one case, the Health and Human Services Department, which oversees CMS, launched an investigation of Humana after getting a complaint from Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., a senior lawmaker usually viewed as a reliable ally of the insurance industry.
“It is wholly unacceptable for insurance companies to mislead seniors regarding any subject particularly on a subject as important to them, and to the nation, as health care reform,” Baucus said Monday, disclosing the HHS investigation.
Humana Inc., headquartered in Louisville, Ky., is cooperating with the investigation and stopped the mailer earlier this month, company spokesman Tom Noland said Monday.
Federal subsidies to private Medicare plans average about 14 percent higher than those involved in traditional fee-for-service coverage under the program for those aged 65 and older, and the health care bills pending in Congress call for reducing or eliminating the difference.
The insurance industry is fighting the change, in part by trying to mobilize seniors to oppose them.
The Senate committee that Baucus chairs Finance will vote this week on a sweeping health care plan that he’s proposed to expand coverage and try to control costs. It would cut Medicare and Medicaid spending by about $500 billion over 10 years, but Baucus says that would lead to greater efficiency, not reduced benefits.
“The health care reform bill we released ... strengthens Medicare and does not cut benefits,” said Baucus. “From lower prescription drug costs, to free preventive care, to better treatment for chronic conditions, seniors have so much to gain from health reform and I’m not going to let insurance company profits stand in the way of improving Medicare for seniors.”
Humana is one of the largest private carriers serving seniors under a program called Medicare Advantage. About one-fourth of the elderly and disabled people covered under Medicare participate in the Advantage program, which offers a choice of private plans that usually deliver added benefits.
Humana has about 1.4 million Medicare Advantage enrollees, and the program accounts for about half the company’s revenue, Noland said.
The Humana mailer focused squarely on the Medicare Advantage program.
“While these programs need to be made more efficient, if the proposed funding cut levels become law, millions of seniors and disabled individuals could lose many of the important benefits and services that make Medicare Advantage health plans so valuable,” it said.
It urged seniors to sign up with Humana for regular updates on the health care legislation, and encouraged them to contact their lawmakers in Washington.
In a warning letter to Humana, HHS said the government is concerned that the mailer “is misleading and confusing” partly because the company’s lobbying campaign could be mistaken for an official communication about Medicare benefits.
HHS ordered the company to immediately halt any such mailings, and remove any related materials from its Web site. In the letter, the government also said it may take other action against Humana.
Although most prominent Democrats back a government-sponsored insurance plan to compete with private carriers, Baucus did not include one in his proposal because he doesn’t think it can pass the Senate. During the Bush administration, he broke with his party to support a Medicare prescription drug benefit delivered through private insurance plans, with no government role in negotiating prices.
Insurers, however, are pushing back against his plan to revamp health care. Not only would it cut payments to private Medicare plans, but it would also impose a $6-billion annual fee on the industry, partly to recoup profits from an influx of new taxpayer-subsidized customers.
Humana opposes a government-run insurance option, arguing that it would “undermine the coverage that is working today for millions of Americans,” Noland said.
Polls show that seniors are more skeptical of the health care overhaul than the U.S. population as a whole.
I wasn’t on FR much yesterday, don’t even recall if I visited the thread. I just recall seeing one. I’m not sure it came from Fox. Sorry, I know that’s not much help, it’s just what I recall.
Der Fuhrer has spoken!
*WH: “STOP SCARING SENIORS”
WE’RE DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OURSELVES WITHOUT YOUR HELP...
one day the white house is telling patterson not to run for gov of ny...the next day they are telling insurers to be quiet...what is next...??...i am so sick and tired of this asshole and all his lying (YES I SAID IT PELOSI) rhetoric...this is the worst excuse for a president this country has ever had and that includes carter...
What if the insurance companies turn around and tell Obama to stop scaring seniors? I mean, I know they don’t have any guns to back it up, but if anything they have more moral authority.
You can encourage Humana here:Corporate office Humana Inc.
500 West Main Street
Louisville, KY 40202
Obama: “You all need to stop scaring seniors. That’s my job. That’s why I’m sitting at the big boy desk. I’ll decide if, and when, and to what extent, to scare the seniors. That’s why I was elected. Now everyone, please, get back to work, I need to figure out how to lose your jobs.”
I heard Chris Wallace say that this White House was the biggest buch of criy babies. They're all the time calling Fox and complaining about something.
Mr. President. I am not “scaring seniors”. I’m telling you and your minions that this plan is unbalanced, unsustainable and will fail, as proposed.
I thought this was the compromise president? /s
Translation: "if you help sink Obama's legislation, we will utterly destroy you". Not an idle threat to a company like Humana, nor it's executives.
The more the WH opens it’s collective mouth, the more this whole “health care overhaul” begins to sound like a vendetta against insurance companies.
Silence! The Great OZ has spoken!
The wording and even the type font must receive this approval or the government may withdraw funds or approval for MA plans. CMS also controls what type of handouts, food and drink that can be served at MA sales meetings.
The government has their thumb on medical insurance companies preventing them from a truly competitive environment.
I heard a short blurb on the radio this morning that the Obama administration is consider suing insurance companies who try to scare people about a government insurance plan. This was said without any hint that theres something seriously wrong with the statement.’
There is a jury pool which should have a waiting list to serve. If I lived anywhere that the government thought they should sue an insurance company under these circumstances, I would volunteer for jury duty.
The Obama administration warned insurance companies Monday they face possible legal action for allegedly trying to scare seniors with misleading information about the potential for lost benefits under health care legislation in Congress.’
The MISLEADING information has been coming from Congress and from NObama & his minions.
When can we all sue them??
They have no training, nor experience, in doing the former. They have only been trained in those "elite universities" to do the latter...
Which only works if the target lets it...
Haven’t you heard the latest Liberal Democrat/Socialist position???
Corporations are NOT individuals, and are NOT entitled to the Constitutional right of Free Speech!!
WE DEMAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT UNDERTAKE THE OBLIGATION ABOVE ALL OF PROVIDING CITIZENS WITH ADEQUATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EMPLOYMENT AND EARNING A LIVING.
THE ACTIVITIES OF THE INDIVIDUAL MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO CLASH WITH THE INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT MUST TAKE PLACE WITHIN ITS CONFINES AND BE FOR THE GOOD OF ALL ...
WE DEMAND THE NATIONALIZATION OF ALL BUSINESSES WHICH HAVE BEEN AMALGAMATED (INTO TRUSTS).
WE DEMAND THAT THE STATE SHALL SHARE IN THE PROFITS OF LARGE INDUSTRIES.
WE DEMAND THAT PROVISION FOR THE AGED SHALL BE MADE ON A VERY GREATLY INCREASED SCALE.
WE DEMAND A LAND-REFORM SUITABLE TO OUR NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS, THE PASSING OF A LAW FOR THE CONFISCATION OF LAND FOR COMMUNAL PURPOSES; THE ABOLITION OF INTEREST ON MORTGAGES, AND PROHIBITION OF ALL SPECULATION IN LAND.
WE DEMAND AN AGRARIAN REFORM SUITABLE TO OUR NATIONAL REQUIREMENTS; THE ENACTMENT OF A LAW TO EXPROPRIATE WITHOUT COMPENSATION THE OWNERS OF ANY LAND THAT MAY BE NEEDED FOR NATIONAL PURPOSES; THE ABOLITION OF GROUND RENTS; AND THE PROHIBITION OF ALL SPECULATION IN LAND.
...THE STATE SHALL ORGANIZE THOROUGHLY THE WHOLE CULTURAL SYSTEM OF THE NATION . . . THE CONCEPTION OF THE STATE IDEA (THE SCIENCE OF CITIZENSHIP) SHALL BE TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. WE DEMAND THAT SPECIALLY TALENTED CHILDREN OF POOR PARENTS, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR STATION OR OCCUPATION, SHALL BE EDUCATED AT THE COST OF THE STATE.
IT IS THE DUTY OF THE STATE TO HELP RAISE THE STANDARD OF THE NATION’S HEALTH BY PROVIDING MATERNITY WELFARE CENTRES, BY PROHIBITING JUVENILE LABOUR, BY INCREASING PHYSICAL FITNESS THROUGH THE INTRODUCTION OF COMPULSORY GAMES AND GYMNASTICS. . . .
(WE) COMBAT THE MATERIALISTIC SPIRIT WITHIN AND OUTSIDE US, AND ARE CONVINCED THAT A PERMANENT RECOVERY OF OUR PEOPLE CAN ONLY PROCEED WITHIN ON THE FOUNDATION OF “THE COMMON GOOD BEFORE THE INDIVIDUAL GOOD.”
— From the “Twenty-Five Point” Programme of the German National Socialist Workers Party, authored by Adolf Hitler and others on February 24, 1920. (Konrad Heiden’s translation in A History of National Socialism)