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Firearms, Ammunition See Explosive Sales Growth
WSJ ^ | 9/21/09 | Bill Spain

Posted on 09/22/2009 12:11:14 PM PDT by pissant

While a remarkable surge that began late last year is starting to ease, Americans' demand for firearms and ammunition - driven largely by economic concerns and the fear of new regulations - remains brisk as double-digit sales increases continue to fill the financial coffers of gun and ammo makers alike.

In August, the number of background checks performed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Instant Criminal Background Check System was up 12.3% from the same month in 2008 to about 1.1 million.

That is down from the nearly 42% increase of November but is still a growth rate that would be the envy of virtually every other consumer product category.

And, while the number of background checks is a good barometer of sales, that doesn't tell the whole story as some of them may have been performed on purchases of multiple firearms. In addition, some private transfers and gun show sales are exempt so the actual number of guns sold is likely higher.

The main force fueling this gun-buying binge is the election last year of President Barack Obama and the large Democratic majorities in the Senate and House of Representatives. Democrats are generally perceived to be hostile to the interests of gun enthusiasts and their organizations, so a type of "buy now while you still can" mentality took hold.

"It really began in the middle of October last year," said Lawrence Keane, vice president and general counsel of the National Shooting Sports Foundation. "Sales have been up in double-digits in every month since, except July, which is seasonally slow anyway.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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The one good result from obamanomics.
1 posted on 09/22/2009 12:11:15 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
The one good result from obamanomics.

True, but it is keeping me from getting enough ammo for quality range time.

2 posted on 09/22/2009 12:12:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: pissant

That, and the sale of “Going Out of Business” signs.


3 posted on 09/22/2009 12:15:25 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: pissant

Gosh, at least I can get ammo again. Still expensive with the exception of Walley World at $8.97 a box for 9MM Blazer Brass.
I have found 30-06 again for about $14 a box and .22LR is all over the place.

Nice to see it’s getting back to “normal” at least here in the North East....with the exception of prices still high overall.


4 posted on 09/22/2009 12:15:30 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: pissant

Always happy to contribute...


5 posted on 09/22/2009 12:16:07 PM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: pissant

try to buy primers....they are obtainable but you have to jump through hoops or pay highly inflated prices.....


6 posted on 09/22/2009 12:17:09 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: pissant

7 posted on 09/22/2009 12:20:42 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: pissant; Red in Blue PA; Joe Brower

With these stats and Dr John Lott’s book, “More Guns, Less Crime.” We are reading more and more articles about armed Americans taking care of their families and homes and selves during hot breakins.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2345637/posts

2 Men Killed in Vermilion Co. Home Invasion
illinoishomepage.net ^ | 9/22/2009 | Staff

Posted on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:05:18 AM by Red in Blue PA

Police say a 17 year old and 22 year old were shot and killed during an attempted home invasion. It happened in Indianola last night.

Officers say two men, armed with a shotgun, entered the home. They were dropped off by a third person.

Police say the two men attacked the homeowner who is a retired police officer. He suffered cuts. Police say the homeowner’s wife showed the men were the safe was. That’s when police say the retired officer grabbed a gun and shot and killed the 17 and 22 year old. Both were killed. A third person was arrested outside the home.


8 posted on 09/22/2009 12:20:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: pissant
The main force fueling this gun-buying binge is the election last year of President Barack Obama and the large Democratic majorities in the Senate and House of Representatives. Democrats are generally perceived to be hostile to the interests of gun enthusiasts and their organizations, so a type of "buy now while you still can" mentality took hold. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is just not true. The run on guns and ammo is a social phenomemon, based on the fact that Americans feel that the Federal Givernment will lead us into a period of social disorder as a result of political and economic dysfunction.

The guns and ammo phenomenon is a social movement of people with shared values of self help, patriotism,freedom of speech, freedom of assembly,and pro second amendment.It has no leader, just like the Tea Party movment has no leader. It is grass roots.

Americans are wary and frightened by their own federal government, in reality a Junta with czars.

9 posted on 09/22/2009 12:21:21 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: Lurker

Excellent consider this great jpg stolen, er, borrowed.

http://www.nationalrepublicrat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/obamagunsalesman-210x300.jpg


10 posted on 09/22/2009 12:23:03 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Godzilla
True, but it is keeping me from getting enough ammo for quality range time.

Yeah. Pointing and yelling "BANG" isn't quite cutting it, but it is easier to clean my "handgun" afterward as it only takes some hot water and a little soap... <);-P

11 posted on 09/22/2009 12:24:59 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Candor7

“Americans are wary and frightened by their own federal government, in reality a Junta with czars. “

Even here in Texas we cannot escape the threat of politicians throttling our abilities to own guns.

See http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33633


12 posted on 09/22/2009 12:25:13 PM PDT by bestintxas
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To: pissant

Every good community organizer has enough rifles and ammo to outfit ten men. I’m shooting to be an outstanding community organizer. How else to properly welcome the Civilian Defense Force?


13 posted on 09/22/2009 12:31:56 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: Candor7

Indeed. It is like saying that people are not hoarding food because they are hungry, but because they fear that they won’t be able to get food in the future.

Either way the driving force is hunger, not the need to have stored food.


14 posted on 09/22/2009 12:34:35 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: pissant

I actually got to purchase a box of 100count 9mm and 100 count 45ACP from WalMart today. I feel very blessed. Judging by what’s left; there aren’t a lot of 40 S&W pistols out there, nor 38 Specials (however, I do have a very sweet cherry Victory Model 38 special with original holster from WWII).


15 posted on 09/22/2009 12:35:36 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: mikelets456

Even starting to see a litle .380!

Blazer Brass .40’s are $12.50 at WalMart or Federal...they have been interchanging both at that price point and you can find 9mm’s with no problem.
The 22lr’s are still a little spotty.

I noticed that I can get a Springfield .40 compact XD again at the local Gander. They were a thing of dreams for a couple months there....


16 posted on 09/22/2009 12:37:34 PM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: SampleMan
Its interesting how the MSM and a few squirly writers create Urban Mythology.

There is a quiet revolution happening in America.

THe 2010 elections had better be free and fair IMHO.

17 posted on 09/22/2009 12:39:34 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: pissant
Democrats are generally perceived to be hostile to the interests of gun enthusiasts and their organizations 2nd Amendment in particular, and individual freedoms in general.

Fixed.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

18 posted on 09/22/2009 12:49:00 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: pissant

Visited the St. George, UT gun show recently. Ammo still high - $29 for a box of 50 45 ACP (used to be $10.50). Powder is starting to fall though, now $18 a lb, down from $25. Primers still high or non-existent.

I figure this is another “bubble” (and because I am stocked up), I’ll wait a while longer to accumulate more.


19 posted on 09/22/2009 12:50:10 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: pissant

I certainly did my part in this...


20 posted on 09/22/2009 12:50:14 PM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: Grampa Dave; All

http://ccwsaveslives.blogspot.com/


21 posted on 09/22/2009 12:56:32 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Candor7

True. People do not trust government.

And people never buy ammo and guns like they are going out of style if they see only blue skies ahead.


22 posted on 09/22/2009 12:57:33 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Thanks for the ping.

Some excellent stories.

One wonders what the violent crime rate would be if most if not all good Americans were armed at all times.


23 posted on 09/22/2009 1:01:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Candor7; All
The 2010 elections had better be free and fair
24 posted on 09/22/2009 1:02:54 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Gaffer
Judging by what’s left; there aren’t a lot of 40 S&W pistols out there

I can't find 40 S&W locally to save my hide. Evey once in a while my local firearms dealer will have some, but at Wally World it's sold before it hits the shelves.

25 posted on 09/22/2009 1:19:20 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: mikelets456

Stop buying ammo by the box (50) and pick up a case (1000).


26 posted on 09/22/2009 1:22:36 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: pissant

Okay, so here’s the million dollar question: what are we willing to do with the firearms and ammo once we have it? I’d be interested in knowing what the breaking point is. Our household is part of the purchase of extra ammo...but I’m wondering what we’d be willing to do with it and when. What are we prepared and willing to do?


27 posted on 09/22/2009 1:23:54 PM PDT by AutumnFire
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To: IYAS9YAS

Shoot, how much you willing to pay me to go down and snap up a few boxes fer ya?


28 posted on 09/22/2009 1:24:08 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: IYAS9YAS

I need a quantity of 12 ga. rifled slugs and OO buck.


29 posted on 09/22/2009 1:24:37 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: mikelets456
Gosh, at least I can get ammo again. Still expensive with the exception of Walley World at $8.97 a box for 9MM Blazer Brass.

I'm starting to get the evil eye from my UPS delivery guy. I heard a very loud "oooof" as he set down a thousand rounds of 7.62mm M118 match ammo on the porch.

By the time I shoot all of this ammo, primers should be easier to acquire, and I can start reloading again.

30 posted on 09/22/2009 1:25:42 PM PDT by 300winmag (Zero to abject failure in under a month. A new land speed record!)
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To: pissant

I lost my gun in the wash. Kinda what happens to my socks. So the government doesnt need to search my house.


31 posted on 09/22/2009 1:25:44 PM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Liberals are terrible at math.)
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To: pissant

32 posted on 09/22/2009 1:30:39 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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To: RasterMaster

Absolutely


33 posted on 09/22/2009 1:32:02 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: BobbyT

Easier said than done.


34 posted on 09/22/2009 1:32:04 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Gaffer

I don’t think I could afford valet service. I got homebrew, but that may not survive shipping. :-)


35 posted on 09/22/2009 1:43:48 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Candor7
I need a quantity of 12 ga. rifled slugs and OO buck.

Not much in the Albuquerque metro area - at least not much selling for less than a buck a round.

36 posted on 09/22/2009 1:45:10 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I know, it used to be available in bulk but all that we see in bulk is bird shot.
37 posted on 09/22/2009 1:47:27 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: BobbyT

I am in NJ and they log all that. PA has a 6 limit law and Maryland/DE are just too far to drive. If i order online, it is a hassle because of communists running NJ!

I refuse to have NJ log everything I buy so when I am in PA I buy my limit and then head on to the next store. I have enough now...well, enough is never enough when it comes to guns and ammo!


38 posted on 09/22/2009 1:50:18 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Candor7
I know, it used to be available in bulk but all that we see in bulk is bird shot.

Yeah, got birdshot out the wazoo, 100 rounds for between 20 and 25 dollars.

39 posted on 09/22/2009 1:50:26 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Vaquero

try to buy primers

Wilders has Wolf primers, I got 5K last week I also finally recieved 5K of CCI primers that had been on back order for 6 months. So they are slowly catching up with the demand.


40 posted on 09/22/2009 1:55:57 PM PDT by Robbin (If Sarah isn’t welcome, I’m not welcome, it’s just that simple…)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Panther’s anyone?


41 posted on 09/22/2009 2:03:27 PM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: Robbin

I have a 4-5 thousand primers...
I got most of those since the availiability problem and it was a pain to get them but I perservered......I stopped shooting in competition a couple of years ago...so I dont eat them up like I use to. but thanks for the heads up....I may give them a look...how are those Wolf primer by the way???


42 posted on 09/22/2009 2:34:56 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Candor7

I was at Cabelas over the weekend and they had Military surplus 00 buck for 5 dolllars for five rounds. That seemed like a almost fair price. But all other ammo was way overpriced and .380 was not to be found anywhere.


43 posted on 09/22/2009 2:48:45 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: pissant
Wally World is still way short of most calibers of ammo in our area. Our local gun store has limited ammo selections at high prices but some are still sparse, like .32 and .380, and .30 carbine. But at least there seems to be something available in most calibers.

A lot of brands and types of firearms are still scarce, though, especially M4/16 clones and sub compact pistols for concealed carry. I haven't seen a Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec, or small Walther in a long time.

Primers? Fugettaboudit!

44 posted on 09/22/2009 2:58:58 PM PDT by Gritty (In Obamaland where truth is dead, muscle power becomes the operative standard of speech-Doug Giles)
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To: 300winmag
I'm starting to get the evil eye from my UPS delivery guy. I heard a very loud "oooof" as he set down a thousand rounds of 7.62mm M118 match ammo on the porch.

My guy handed me two tins of 7.62X25, expecting me to collapse to the floor. I said thanks.

45 posted on 09/22/2009 2:59:09 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Yorlik803

Well I have found the ammo at about 94 cents a round, but then it should be less, I am a frugal ammo shopper. LOL.

Its every man for himself out there. LOL.


46 posted on 09/22/2009 3:00:43 PM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: mikelets456
PA has a 6 limit law

No such law. Sounds like the Wally World limit.

47 posted on 09/22/2009 3:04:20 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Candor7
THe 2010 elections had better be free and fair IMHO.

One of my big worries. By then, if amnesty passes, we're in a world of hurt. Also, if ACORN is still around, watch for massive voter fraud. I guess we'll know when "our guy or gal" is ahead in the polls by 10 points, and whoops, gee, there's going to be a runoff until the Dem wins. . .

48 posted on 09/22/2009 4:10:55 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: pissant

Last weekend was the first time in many months that I’ve seen signs that the ammo shortage is easing. My local Walmart actually had alot of 9mm, and I scored a couple hundred rounds of range ammo to replenish the safe.


49 posted on 09/22/2009 5:10:06 PM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Godzilla

No ammo shortage in my caliber in NJ. And I’m using it.


50 posted on 09/22/2009 5:20:08 PM PDT by dools007
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