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Obama to cut fossil fuel subsidies
New Zealand site; http://www.3news.co.nz/ ^ | 9/23/2009 | Assiciated Press

Posted on 09/23/2009 10:49:02 AM PDT by larry hagedon

This came over the AP, and was picked up by a New Zealand site. I have not yet located other sources.

Obama wants to end all Federal subsidies for petroleum. Most people do not realize that Petroleum has been massively subsidized for the past 50 years.

This will not affect state, county, city or township gasoline, heating oil and diesel fuel subsidies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: energy; fuel; petroleum; subsidy
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1 posted on 09/23/2009 10:49:03 AM PDT by larry hagedon
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To: larry hagedon

Will they simultaneously cut the massive extraordinary taxes on oil? (See Gas Tax)


2 posted on 09/23/2009 10:50:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The goal of Liberalism is the complete destruction of Western Civilization.)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Silly

Don’t be silly.


3 posted on 09/23/2009 10:50:56 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 245 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Agreed


4 posted on 09/23/2009 10:53:00 AM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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To: larry hagedon

What subsidies are you talking about? There has been a depletion allowance for oil producers, which if I recall correctly, exempts about 15% of their oil production from federal taxes. The depletion allowance is an unjustifiable tax break for oil that gives it a cost advantage over other energy sources and it wouldn’t bother me if congress ended the depletion allowance. But other than that, I can’t think of any “massive subisdies” for oil. So what else are you talking about?


5 posted on 09/23/2009 10:54:39 AM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: larry hagedon

All subsidies should end...Obozo is right with this one....


7 posted on 09/23/2009 10:56:34 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: oldskuulconserv

Soilent Green


8 posted on 09/23/2009 10:57:56 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: oldskuulconserv
so he doesn’t support oil, coal, or natural gas. doesn’t support nuclear and won’t help solar or wind.

what’s left?

Slave labor.

9 posted on 09/23/2009 10:58:07 AM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: oldskuulconserv

Wood burners???


10 posted on 09/23/2009 10:58:18 AM PDT by Freddd
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To: reg45

Caves.


11 posted on 09/23/2009 10:59:19 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The goal of Liberalism is the complete destruction of Western Civilization.)
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To: larry hagedon
Let's see...with the falling value of the daollar...and this...commodity prices will increase across the board...leading to higher prices for the consumer...Would be nice if the MSM pointed this out...

If I am not mistaken....this is obviously Bush's Fault....
12 posted on 09/23/2009 10:59:22 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: larry hagedon

BTW, how’s everyone at DNC headquarters today? Just wondering....I’m hoping you’re all OK and feeling lucid today.


13 posted on 09/23/2009 11:01:46 AM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: larry hagedon

To what, and what amount have the alleged Subsidies been? Anyone??


14 posted on 09/23/2009 11:02:30 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: larry hagedon

Cut Sugar subisdies too!


15 posted on 09/23/2009 11:05:32 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: sr4402
There's a tax break called the depletion allowance, which if I recall correctly exempts about 15% of oil production from federal taxes. That adds up to a fairly big tax break over the years and it's not really justified because all industries have to do R&D and investment to stay in business and other industries don't get that big of a tax break to help them stay in business for the long term. Other than that, I can't think of any significant tax breaks or subsidies for oil producers.

The administration wants to end the current year expensing of "intangible drilling costs" and instead depreciate those costs over a number of years, which means the tax write-off occurs later and is thus less valuable to oil producers. The current year write-off of IDC's is not really a subsidy because it's always a judgment call in accounting whether an expense related to capital goods should be expensed or depreciated. You can go either way on those costs and it's incorrect to call current-year write-offs a subsidy. Drug companies get to write off all their R&D expenses in the current year, so why shouldn't oil drillers write off drilling site preparation costs (an IDC) in the current year?

17 posted on 09/23/2009 11:11:15 AM PDT by your local physicist (Gridlock is good...in Washington.)
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To: oldskuulconserv
PMR

Personal Methane Reclamation.

18 posted on 09/23/2009 11:12:05 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: your local physicist

....................... The depletion allowance is an unjustifiable tax break for oil that gives it a cost advantage over other energy sources..................

The depletion allowance allows the companies to write off, tax free, the huge lease cost that the oil companies had to pay the US government for the company to explore for oil.

In many cases the depletion allowance benefit is applicable decades after the oil company paid - cash - for the ability to look for oil.


19 posted on 09/23/2009 11:14:23 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Please do not fall for this nonsense. The oil and natural gas industries are one of the most heavily regulated and taxed industries. These industries are not subsidized. They pay massive taxes at every stage of production and are subject to almost endless regulation and litigation. Sure, one can point to a few tax breaks but these breaks are more than offset by taxes and regulations.

Lefties insist that the gulf wars were a subsidy to oil. This absurd statement does not warrant rebuttal.


20 posted on 09/23/2009 11:15:51 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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