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Greenland, Antarctic Ice 'in Runaway Melt Mode'
Fox news - AP ^ | Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 09/23/2009 6:51:13 PM PDT by PilotDave

New satellite information shows that ice sheets in Greenland and western Antarctica continue to shrink faster than scientists thought and in some places are already in runaway melt mode.

British scientists for the first time calculated changes in the height of the vulnerable but massive ice sheets and found them especially worse at their edges. That is where warmer water eats away from below. In some parts of Antarctica, ice sheets have been losing 30 feet a year in thickness since 2003, according to a paper published online Thursday in the journal Nature.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; catastrophism; envirowackos; globalwarming; theskyisfalling
Why do I suspect some smart people are going to shred this?
1 posted on 09/23/2009 6:51:14 PM PDT by PilotDave
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To: steelyourfaith

Pingaroo.


2 posted on 09/23/2009 6:53:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: PilotDave

3 posted on 09/23/2009 6:54:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: PilotDave
From Article: These new measurements, based on 50 million laser readings from a NASA satellite...

There's your problem right there - all those laser blasts are melting the ice cap. Just turn the damn things off!

4 posted on 09/23/2009 6:54:30 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: PilotDave

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/21/2009-arctic-sea-ice-extent-exceeds-2005-for-this-date/


5 posted on 09/23/2009 6:57:26 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: PilotDave

Why did they call it Greenland...


6 posted on 09/23/2009 6:57:57 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Carl LaFong

just beat me to it!


7 posted on 09/23/2009 7:05:11 PM PDT by Coachm
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To: PilotDave
Greenland is in the Arctic... what a bunch of BS. Recent studies have shown that the the ice shelf in Greenland is growing thicker in the center and thinner on the edge... it is actually adding ice... Antarctica is not melting. All of this has been posted in the last few months... right here on FR.

LLS

8 posted on 09/23/2009 7:09:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: PilotDave
British scientists for the first time calculated changes in the height...

Then what is their baseline?

9 posted on 09/23/2009 7:12:32 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Army Air Corps; Defendingliberty; Genesis defender; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
Thanx !

 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

10 posted on 09/23/2009 7:18:42 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PilotDave
(FOXnews) Report: Antarctia Ice Growing, Not Shrinking
11 posted on 09/23/2009 7:27:11 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Sender

We can expect the Empire State building to be under water within mere weeks. Also should note that the sky is falling.


12 posted on 09/23/2009 7:32:56 PM PDT by reader25
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To: PilotDave

Total BS.

Normal is green, that’s why they named it Greenland.


13 posted on 09/23/2009 7:48:00 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: PilotDave
Why do I suspect some smart people are going to shred this?

This is why.

... according to a paper published online Thursday in the journal Nature.


14 posted on 09/23/2009 7:57:35 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: PilotDave

A million years from now none of this is going to matter.


15 posted on 09/23/2009 8:01:20 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: PilotDave

Snow fall at the center is collecting faster than the glaciers are melting for a net gain in ice. But that doesn’t fit the template.


16 posted on 09/23/2009 8:12:49 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: PilotDave

What’s happened is that too many people have noticed that the air and the land temperatures have stopped increasing, especially at anything near the accelerating CO2 trend line and now they have switched gears to focus on the ocean temps.

These temps, covering some 71% of the globe’s surface are even easier to assign mysterious effects to as they have no continuous coverage contradicting any ‘new’ data from the ‘latest’ report which starts the sequence of discovery, adjustment and conclusion all over again.

A moving target is hard to fix both sights and markers on.

Circulation patterns and peripheral effects from ocean temperature shifts have always been treated as natural events not influenced by the general atmosphere above.

Water freezes and water melts depending on where water finds itself.


17 posted on 09/23/2009 8:26:59 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: PilotDave
There is a slight problem with this, since if one looks at the actual satellite data and charts for the Antarctica. Since the ice shelf has been growing, you would have to believe that the ice is growing, but getting thinner, to believe this article. Most of these pro-global warming people don't realize the average person can just get on the internet and see what is happening. The ice extent is at a near-record high since records began in 1979.
Here is current year: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot_daily.html

Here is yesterdays image: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/antarctic.seaice.color.000.png

Here is past history since records began:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.area.south.jpg

18 posted on 09/23/2009 8:42:34 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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Hundreds of years ago, Greenland was habitable and parts of it arable. There's the old tale that Eric the Red discovered Iceland, which was volcanic and a good place to inhabit and Greenland which was less so but still accomodating. Old Eric manipulated the names for the Vikings' benefit by discouraging settlement in Iceland and tricking others to seek marginal Greenland.

It worked for the longest time until in 1941, the USAF settled there at Thule.
19 posted on 09/23/2009 8:49:09 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: Talisker
Also, there is no satellite in orbit that is designed to measure ice thickness. The first one CryoSat1 crashed on launched in 2005, a new one CryoSat 2 was schedule to be launched in December, but now has been delayed until February, 2010 at the earliest. http://www.spacenews.com/civil/cryosat-2-delay.html
20 posted on 09/23/2009 8:54:53 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: PilotDave
Rich Republicans are planning banana plantations for Greenland.
21 posted on 09/23/2009 8:57:51 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: BIGLOOK; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
It's strange how this piece of propaganda keeps popping up a few times a year. There's nothing to it, it isn't true, it's actually a blatant lie. Oh, wait, that's right, it's from the left, of course it's a blatant lie. Thanks BIGLOOK.
 
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22 posted on 09/23/2009 8:59:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: BIGLOOK

One apochryphal tale substituted for another is a technique of debate, not a conclusion of science.


23 posted on 09/24/2009 7:59:45 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought I heard yesterday that the date for the total melting of Arctic ice had been pushed back, from 2013 to 2041.


24 posted on 09/24/2009 2:42:00 PM PDT by Berosus (Come blast off with me! http://ppl.blastoffnetwork.com/charlesskimball04)
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To: PilotDave

And in the past two days we’ve been told that billions of tons of new ice and water have been discovered by satellite on the Moon and Mars both; what’s the odds of all this being a coincidence?

Those aren’t your grandfather’s satellites, they are interplanetary space-age giant pumps - the Martians are stealing our life-giving water right from our outstretched tongues.


25 posted on 09/24/2009 5:27:14 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Berosus

Hey, only off by 28 years! Get off their backs! ;’) ;’)


26 posted on 09/24/2009 8:17:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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