Greenland, Antarctic Ice 'in Runaway Melt Mode'

Fox news - AP ^ | Wednesday, September 23, 2009 | Staff

[PilotDave]

New satellite information shows that ice sheets in Greenland and western Antarctica continue to shrink faster than scientists thought and in some places are already in runaway melt mode.

British scientists for the first time calculated changes in the height of the vulnerable but massive ice sheets and found them especially worse at their edges. That is where warmer water eats away from below. In some parts of Antarctica, ice sheets have been losing 30 feet a year in thickness since 2003, according to a paper published online Thursday in the journal Nature.

[PilotDave]

Why do I suspect some smart people are going to shred this?

[Army Air Corps]

Pingaroo.

[Mr. Silverback]

[Talisker]

From Article: These new measurements, based on 50 million laser readings from a NASA satellite...

There's your problem right there - all those laser blasts are melting the ice cap. Just turn the damn things off!

[Carl LaFong]

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/21/2009-arctic-sea-ice-extent-exceeds-2005-for-this-date/

[ltc8k6]

Why did they call it Greenland...

[Coachm]

just beat me to it!

[LibLieSlayer]

Greenland is in the Arctic... what a bunch of BS. Recent studies have shown that the the ice shelf in Greenland is growing thicker in the center and thinner on the edge... it is actually adding ice... Antarctica is not melting. All of this has been posted in the last few months... right here on FR.

LLS

[facedown]

British scientists for the first time calculated changes in the height...

Then what is their baseline?

[steelyourfaith]

Thanx !

 

Beam Me to Planet Gore !

[Sender]

(FOXnews) Report: Antarctia Ice Growing, Not Shrinking

[reader25]

We can expect the Empire State building to be under water within mere weeks. Also should note that the sky is falling.

[TASMANIANRED]

Total BS.

Normal is green, that’s why they named it Greenland.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Why do I suspect some smart people are going to shred this?

This is why.

... according to a paper published online Thursday in the journal Nature.

[spodefly]

A million years from now none of this is going to matter.

[SunTzuWu]

Snow fall at the center is collecting faster than the glaciers are melting for a net gain in ice. But that doesn’t fit the template.

[Old Professer]

What’s happened is that too many people have noticed that the air and the land temperatures have stopped increasing, especially at anything near the accelerating CO2 trend line and now they have switched gears to focus on the ocean temps.

These temps, covering some 71% of the globe’s surface are even easier to assign mysterious effects to as they have no continuous coverage contradicting any ‘new’ data from the ‘latest’ report which starts the sequence of discovery, adjustment and conclusion all over again.

A moving target is hard to fix both sights and markers on.

Circulation patterns and peripheral effects from ocean temperature shifts have always been treated as natural events not influenced by the general atmosphere above.

Water freezes and water melts depending on where water finds itself.

[Aussiebabe]

There is a slight problem with this, since if one looks at the actual satellite data and charts for the Antarctica. Since the ice shelf has been growing, you would have to believe that the ice is growing, but getting thinner, to believe this article. Most of these pro-global warming people don't realize the average person can just get on the internet and see what is happening. The ice extent is at a near-record high since records began in 1979.
Here is current year: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/s_plot_daily.html

Here is yesterdays image: http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/antarctic.seaice.color.000.png

Here is past history since records began:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/current.area.south.jpg

[BIGLOOK]

Hundreds of years ago, Greenland was habitable and parts of it arable. There's the old tale that Eric the Red discovered Iceland, which was volcanic and a good place to inhabit and Greenland which was less so but still accomodating. Old Eric manipulated the names for the Vikings' benefit by discouraging settlement in Iceland and tricking others to seek marginal Greenland.

It worked for the longest time until in 1941, the USAF settled there at Thule.

[Aussiebabe]

Also, there is no satellite in orbit that is designed to measure ice thickness. The first one CryoSat1 crashed on launched in 2005, a new one CryoSat 2 was schedule to be launched in December, but now has been delayed until February, 2010 at the earliest. http://www.spacenews.com/civil/cryosat-2-delay.html