4 Police Officers Shot in NJ

Philly.com/AP ^ | 09/24/2009 | NA

[prisoner6]

4 Police Officers Shot in NJ

The Associated Press

LAKEWOOD, N.J. - Four Lakewood police officers have been shot executing a search warrant in New Jersey.

Deputy Chief Michael Mohel (mohl) says members of the tactical unit were serving a no-knock narcotics and weapons warrant around 2:25 a.m. Thursday when Jamie Gonzalez opened fire

[prisoner6]

More HERE

prisoner6

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

http://www.southernledger.com/4_police_officers_shot_in_NJ,_US

[csense]

Links don’t work

[Dacus943]

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2009/07/four_jersey_city_cops_shot_two.html

[Dacus943]

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2009/07/five_jersey_city_cops_shot_2_s.html

[mylife]

serving a no-knock narcotics and weapons warrant around 2:25 a.m.

Theres the problem. "We just busted the door down at 2:25 AM"

[Joe Boucher]

I am naive, why use a NO knock search warrant?

I just think if you go barreling in to a home you’ll get shot.
If you call out police, search warrant usually not.
Can ya edumacate me?

[Dov in Houston]

Is Jamie Gonzalez dead YET ?

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

The link says 5 cops shot,,,

1 earlier,,,

Drug dealers?,,,

Looks like they walked into a trap...

[Loud Mime]

Several no-knock search warrants have gone bad.

Some are very sad stories.

If you google that phrase you get pages of examples.

[mylife]

Looks like a “no Knock warrant” to me.

[SF_Redux]

amazing how the people just kept right on driving by

[csense]

...thanks

[sergeantdave]

Here’s an idea:

Wait for Mr. Gonzalez to go for his morning stroll. As he walks by, jump from behind the bushes and nab him. Then go into the house and execute your search warrant.

Wow! I’m a genuis.

[mylife]

It’s BS.

I’m mot saying Gonzales was a good guy, but it’s BS

[mylife]

Or.....catch Gonzales in the actual commission of a crime, rather than just suspecting him of a crime

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Looks like a “no Knock warrant” to me.
~~~
Same here,,,

The first cop shot mite have been a narc agent,,,

Drug bust gone bad ?,,,

Still lookin’...

[2nd amendment mama]

Your link leads to a different cop shooting that happened in Jersey City, not Lakewood and that happened in July.

[mylife]

These chuckleheads created the situation.

So some guy is selling Pot and has a few guns, “hey! lets bust into his house at 2:25 AM” what could go wrong?

[prisoner6]

Hmmm...very strange. I copied and pasted and it worked for me at first but now it doesn't. Others have posted the correct links.

FWIW here's another attempt to the one I grabbed.

4 Police Officers Shot

prisoner6

[Dumpster Baby]

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/new_jersey/20090924_ap_4policeofficersshotinnj.html

[prisoner6]

We had one here in Pittsburgh recently.

Wife of Drug Suspect Charged With Killing FBI Agent"

prisoner6

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

July 16, 2009, 10:48AM,,,

Seems to be OLD NEWS!!!

[csense]

Both links work for me. Probably just a temporary glitch. Thanks for the effort FRiend.

[Joe Boucher]

I just think that unless you have a real fear for life a no knock warrant will get folks killed.

[mylife]

2 months old

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

http://gothamist.com/2009/07/16/shooting_in_jersey_city_4_cops_shot.php

Seems to be OLD News!...

[mylife]

It’ just a bad idea.

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Yup...

[mylife]

Jesey City sure sounds like a ****hole

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

Ping to post...

[driftdiver]

according this this story from Yahoo’s front page its recent http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090924/ap_on_re_us/us_search_warrant_shooting

[mylife]

“the two suspects were ‘neutralized,’ which may mean they are in custody or dead”

Oh...Ok

[Loud Mime]

From the case you cited (not this thread's event): "Emergency dispatchers had initially said the victim was a police officer shot in a home invasion, an incorrect report likely fed by Christina Korbe's call to 911.

A no-knock warrant is essentially a legitimized-by-authority home-invasion. There were children at this home; why don't the authorities consider this?

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

“The shooting comes more than two months after Jersey City police Det. Marc DiNardo was shot in the face storming an apartment where two armed robbery suspects were holed up. Four other officers were wounded in the gun battle and the suspects were killed.

DiNardo was taken off life support and pronounced dead one day before his 38th birthday.”
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July 16, 2009 8:41 AM

Check the dates of the posts here :

http://gothamist.com/2009/07/16/shooting_in_jersey_city_4_cops_shot.php

[driftdiver]

there must be a lot of cop shootings in Jersey. Foxnews also has the story and indicates its recent.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,554808,00.html?test=latestnews

Of course their source is AP, so it could be a retread.

[prisoner6]

The Pittsburgh story was - still is - a big story here. IIRC it wasn't the first time the perp had been in trouble. There were kids in the home and it does seem like a bad idea by the agents and police.

prisoner6

[mvpel]

A no-knock warrant is essentially a legitimized-by-authority home-invasion.

It's not "legitimate," it's just "legal" - big difference.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

Gee, ya think? From the second line of the above excerpt: “serving a no-knock narcotics and weapons”

[TYVets]

Here’s an idea:

Wait for Mr. Gonzalez to go for his morning stroll. As he walks by, jump from behind the bushes and nab him. Then go into the house and execute your search warrant.

The feds could have done the same thing to arrest David Koresh in Waco, but they wanted to take the media along on for the first raid at the compound.

[mylife]

My post was dripping with sarcasm.

[theDentist]

Well, they use them because knocking will give drug dealers the opportunity to flush away evidence. It also allows desperate occupants the time to gather all his/her weapons about him and prepare to shoot it out.

[Centurion2000]

Good ... maybe they will stop doing no knock warrants.

[CalvaryJohn]

You should have been advising ATF at Waco.

[Red in Blue PA]

No Knock warrants should be otlawed. There are numerous examples of thugs wearing police uniforms and kicking in doors every year.

If anyone kicks in my door, I’m shooting first and asking questions later.

Nobody is welcome in my home unless they get an invite.

[Red in Blue PA]

Not just Jersey City, but also Camden, Trenton, Newark.

Them gun laws they have in Jersey really seem to work/sarc

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

It looked like many of the comments that I’ve seen on FR where the person never even read the excerpt. Sorry.

[Loud Mime]

point taken - far better than mine!

[CholeraJoe]

Um, excuse me? If I happen upon a gun fight, I’m certainly going to keep driving, particularly if the Police are already there. OTOH, if a SWAT team bursts through my front door at 2:25 am, I believe my reaction would be similar to Senor Gonzalez, except I have more firepower.

[Vaquero]

on the face of it....I would say it was pretty poorly planned...

reminds me of the NYPD screwing up the recent terrorist surveillance.