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U.S. Protests Russian 'Sex Tape' Used to Smear American Diplomat
abc (!) ^ | 9/24/9

Posted on 09/24/2009 8:25:42 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker

The U.S. Ambassador in Moscow has lodged a formal protest with the Russian Foreign Ministry over an "attempted smear" of an American diplomat with a purported sex video recorded in a Moscow hotel room.

"This kind of effort to discredit an American diplomat really has no place in the sort of relationship that we are trying to build with the Russian federation," Ambassador John Beyrle told ABC News in an interview to be broadcast tonight on World News with Charles Gibson and Nightline.

CLICK HERE TO WATCH THE TAPE IN QUESTION.

American officials say the Russian intelligence agency that replaced the KGB, the Federal Security Service (FSB), produced the video in an attempt to either recruit or discredit the diplomat, Brendan Kyle Hatcher, a 34-year-old married State Department employee who serves as a liaison with religious and human rights groups in Russia.

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE SLIDESHOW OF WHAT HAPPENED.

As recently as this summer, Hatcher attended a meeting with Ambassador Beyrle with the Russian Patriarch Metropolitan Kiril.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: chucklestheclown; reset; russia

1 posted on 09/24/2009 8:25:42 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker
""This kind of effort to discredit an American diplomat really has no place in the sort of relationship that we are trying to build with the Russian federation,"

But if it's a sexual allegation against a Republican then it's "Balls to the wall, full speed ahead, and damn the torpedoes baby."

2 posted on 09/24/2009 8:28:31 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Ah, the old Honey Trap. The Russians were always suckers for the classics..


3 posted on 09/24/2009 8:29:02 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: NativeNewYorker

hmmm...


4 posted on 09/24/2009 8:29:40 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: NativeNewYorker
"This kind of effort to discredit an American diplomat really has no place in the sort of relationship that we are trying to build with the Russian federation," Ambassador John Beyrle told ABC News in an interview to be broadcast tonight on World News with Charles Gibson and Nightline.

Uh, John. Just one question. Did he do it or not?

If he did not, then defend him. But not until you and we know the answer to that question.

If he did it, then fire him and send him home before he is completely compromised and hurts our nation.

5 posted on 09/24/2009 8:29:50 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: cardinal4

I often wondered what kind of dirt these intelligence agencies can gather on high ranking politicians and celebrities merely by monitoring hotel rooms.


6 posted on 09/24/2009 8:30:09 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: NativeNewYorker

...oh how the dividends of Obama’s ‘smart diplomacy’ are piling up


7 posted on 09/24/2009 8:31:45 AM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Thats it. What kind of sex tape is that?
You would think the Russians could do a better job.


8 posted on 09/24/2009 8:34:14 AM PDT by svcw (Legalism reinforces self-righteousness - it communicates to you the good news of your own goodness)
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To: ruiner

Jess Unruh is a legendary Speaker of the state of Cal Assembly. When asked about taking dinners and gifts from lobbyists he said “If you can’t scr3W their women, drink their booze and eat their food and then vote against them in the morning, then you shouldn’t be in politics.” If I were a single ambassador, I think I would adopt that position and tell the host country, bring it on!


9 posted on 09/24/2009 8:34:42 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Ha!!!! WTF is up with the 70’s music on the tape????? LMAO!!!


10 posted on 09/24/2009 8:36:51 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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To: NativeNewYorker

All I saw was a typical man-woman relationship. So what?


11 posted on 09/24/2009 8:37:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Kaputsky!
12 posted on 09/24/2009 8:40:39 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Hillary has issued new ROE for the diplomatic corps.

"Get Some?"

Yet contractors who under pressure , risking their lives daily under fire in Iraq cannot party.The diplodinks can though!

13 posted on 09/24/2009 8:41:17 AM PDT by Candor7 (The effective weapons against Fascism are ridicule, derision, and truth (Member NRA)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Classic KGB “Honey Trap.”


14 posted on 09/24/2009 8:43:19 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Lazamataz

Is not fun unless information can be obtained through traditional blackmail babushka.

15 posted on 09/24/2009 8:43:55 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

A straight State Dept. employee? They’re slipping at Foggy Bottom HR.


16 posted on 09/24/2009 8:44:13 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Vintage Russian. Kind of exciting.

The scandal here is that the tryst was hetro. Were the guy a homo, it would not be news.


17 posted on 09/24/2009 8:44:55 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Ha!!!! WTF is up with the 70’s music on the tape????? LMAO!!!

I soooo want that song as a high-quality MP3. But what is it?

18 posted on 09/24/2009 8:46:36 AM PDT by library user
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To: dalebert

It looks like the girl on the tape is forcing him to do stuff to her.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 8:48:57 AM PDT by library user
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To: library user

LOL!


20 posted on 09/24/2009 8:49:20 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (http://www.muckety.com/7BECFF40501E647D3741343C37265A57.map)
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To: cardinal4

I think the diplomat was the sucker.


21 posted on 09/24/2009 8:50:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Wouldn’t surprise me if Putin has tapes of Obama and Larry Sinclair and Donald Young (RIP), as well as an original birth certificate.


22 posted on 09/24/2009 8:51:27 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: cardinal4

any diplomat who falls that that old routine doesn’t have the I.Q. he was born with and deserves to lose hs job for being a moron.


23 posted on 09/24/2009 9:01:56 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: NativeNewYorker
""This kind of effort to discredit an American diplomat really has no place in the sort of relationship that we are trying to build with the Russian federation," Ambassador John Beyrle told ABC News"

yea, the nerve of those Ruskies spying on, and producing a sex tape of a Democrat having a good time with hookers, paid for by American taxpayers, especially when the Democrat was there in "good faith" trying to make a few bucks for himself while selling out the nations secrets...

/s

24 posted on 09/24/2009 9:05:43 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Lazamataz
"All I saw was a typical man-woman relationship. So what?"

Well, if it wasn't his wife, would his wife say "so what"?

25 posted on 09/24/2009 9:10:51 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: pissant
Wouldn’t surprise me if Putin has tapes of Obama and Larry Sinclair...

Better than Obama and Larry SUMMERS...

26 posted on 09/24/2009 9:11:40 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Well, if it wasn't his wife, would his wife say "so what"?

Any woman *I* marry will have to put up with an endless line of second-stringers.

27 posted on 09/24/2009 9:13:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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To: NativeNewYorker

What was that, a Motel 4??


28 posted on 09/24/2009 9:24:32 AM PDT by ditto h
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To: NativeNewYorker

Or Larry Bud Mellman


29 posted on 09/24/2009 9:25:41 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Hey, I want to get smeared in the press. Where do I go to sign up?


30 posted on 09/24/2009 9:26:34 AM PDT by cizinec
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To: NativeNewYorker
Attention Obama Appointees!!

If you are going to Russia for any amount of time please be advised that your every move and word is being monitored. There is a reason you had to produce two copies of photo identification, one for customs and one for THE KGB!!! That's because the KGB is still alive and well, no matter what anybody says!!

Idiots!!

31 posted on 09/24/2009 9:29:42 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Some of those Russian babes are quite beautiful considering it is cold as hell there 3/4ths of the year.

The Obama administration will probably counter this by insisting that all diplomats in the future be homosexual. That way, if the Russians want to tape them, it won’t be scandalous because nobody will want to watch.


32 posted on 09/24/2009 9:41:44 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: OrangeHoof

Barney Frank will want to watch.


33 posted on 09/24/2009 9:52:49 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The AFL-CIO and SEIU.....two domestic terrorist organizations doing Obama's dirty work for him.)
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To: Jeff Head
If he did it, then fire him and send him home before he is completely compromised and hurts our nation.

Why??? If he is effective in what he does, and he seems to have been because that is an alternative theory of why the Russians want him gone, then he has already been immunized against such tactics. Now he can get on about his business.

If you want to take a strict uncompromising moral position shouldn't that be between him and his family? Contrary to simplistic thinking and moralizing, his cheating on his wife is not a good indicator as to his general moral character.

34 posted on 09/24/2009 10:53:06 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Actually...it is. He made a commitment to his wife. If he wants to retain his good moral character, then divorce her before engaging in such behavior. This is a very basic thing. Marital vows are fundamental vows and mean something...both morally and legally.

If we cannot see that an individual who is able to be seduced into compromising positions which are being filmed by a foreign power's security service is part and parcel to being compromised...then we have lost sight, IMHO, about what being compromiosed means.

I stand by my own assertions. You may disagree...and that is fine.

35 posted on 09/24/2009 11:28:48 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Our disagreement is with individual values. I agree with the strict morality of it all but I disagree that all individuals are that way. Depending on the personal relationships with wives and based on other basic moral principles, i.e. loyalty to country, with some the loyalty to country supersedes commitment to wife. With some it is a macho thing.

Therefore, if this diplomat is good at what he does and can be trusted with that, according to those who know him, recalling and firing him would be the wrong thing.


36 posted on 09/24/2009 6:12:31 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
And I contend that if he would break that basic vow to his wife when he could come out honorably and end the relationship before starting up an affair, then he would also be much more apt to be a security risk with other vows.

In fact, if unwilling to break that relationshiop off because of embarassement, or other reason, then his risk is increased because whatever it was could then be used against him by a foreign power as a point of leverage.

Which is not uncommon.

37 posted on 09/24/2009 6:33:25 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Lazamataz

Attaboy.


38 posted on 09/24/2009 8:42:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: NativeNewYorker; All

Just the Russians using their tried and true method of snaring foreigners.

The KGB perfected this kind of stuff, and many of those folks now make up the SVO...


39 posted on 09/24/2009 8:50:36 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Jeff Head

At times I think the insistence on “being purer than Caesar’s wife” works against us.


40 posted on 09/25/2009 9:30:02 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Notice...I did not say he or anyone else had to be "purer than Caesar's wife." No one is perfect. I simply stated that if a person makes serious and sacred vows and they reach a point in life where they decide those vows were no longer valid, then they should go about setting those vows aside in an upfront and honorable way...not breaking them in the dark of night behind closed doors and then pretend to go about life as though they had not.

There is a huge difference between the two...particularly when it comes to trust, which any state department positon is a matter of. It is a position of public trust with some level of security clearance involved which enhance that trust. Once trust is broken and a person places themselves in a compromised positon...they need to be removed from it to mitigate the damage to the country and to themselves.

Clearly, no person is perfect and people make mistakes. A person who makes a mistake and comes forward with it on their own, is sorry for it and acts in that manner is someone who can be worked with from a trust perspective...though not to as high a level, IMHO. A person who is not, who is either found out by our own internal investigations...or worse, through the entrapement and manipilaltions of a foreign intelligence service, IMHO needs to be removed from the situation ASAP.

Anyhow...we have both made our points on this and I am more than content to give you the last word.

41 posted on 09/25/2009 10:16:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

The only disagreement we have is whether one transgression leads to another. I say not necessarily and you say, if I may, to not take a chance.

To support my point I say it is up to the people who work with him in the same environment to decide.


42 posted on 09/25/2009 4:01:41 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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