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Palin breaks with McCain on F-22 cuts
Politico ^ | 9/24/09 | Ben Smith

Posted on 09/24/2009 8:49:26 AM PDT by pissant

Sarah Palin, outlying her "common sense conservative" foreign policy views in Hong Kong yesterday, denounced her former running mate's push to cut new F-22 Raptor fighter jets, an efficiency move in which Senator John McCain allied himself with the White House and against many other Republican hawks.

"Though we are engaged in two wars and face a diverse array of threats, it is the defense budget that has seen significant program cuts and has actually been reduced from current levels!" Palin said, according to a portion of the private speech I obtained. Defense spending will, in fact, increase this year over last, but the Obama administration has cut back from a budget released at the end of the Bush Administration.

"Despite the need to move men and material by air into theaters like Afghanistan, the Obama Administration sought to end production of our C-17s, the work horse of our ability to project long range power. Despite the Air Force saying it would increase future risk, the Obama Administration successfully sought to end F-22 production – at a time when both Russia and China are acquiring large numbers of next generation fighter aircraft. It strikes me as odd that Defense Secretary Gates is the only member of the Cabinet to be tasked with tightening his belt," Palin said.

McCain said earlier this year:

[G]ven our very best planning scenarios, does producing any more F-22s best ensure that our current fighter fleet will bridge to a smaller, more lethal fifth-generation fighter capability? In my view, the answer is, no.

Palin's views aren't a departure from the Republican Party line. Indeed, they move her closer toward Republican orthodoxy, and away from another of her former running mate's views that sometimes rankled on the right.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: education; f22; glennbeck; government; healthcare; islam; israel; mccain; military; nationaldefense; obama; obamacare; palin; palin2012; politics; raptor22; savetheraptor; terrorism; veterans
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More clean breaks from McCain can only help her.
1 posted on 09/24/2009 8:49:27 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

McCain might have actually won the election if he had turned Sarah loose and let her fill in for him on the last debate.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 8:54:57 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: pissant

Who would possibly believe that Palin is somehow McCain II?


3 posted on 09/24/2009 8:56:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: pissant

Sarah goes to Hong Kong, challenges the Chinese and praises America.

Obonga goes to New York, apologizes for America, denounces Israel and kow-tows to a bunch of tin horn dictators and thugs.

Just sayin............


4 posted on 09/24/2009 8:56:37 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: Vigilanteman

He also could have won by fighting tooth and nail against the $800 Billion bailout. Alas, he floundered and was its cheerleader.


5 posted on 09/24/2009 8:56:45 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Absolutely, let Granpa Simpson be Erkle’s lickspittle step and fetch.


6 posted on 09/24/2009 8:56:57 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: pissant

Yep, America voted for Palin, not McCain. Palin is not for illegal alien Amnesty, McCain is. Palin understands global warming is a hoax, and McCain believes in it. Palin stands on her beliefs and principles, and McCain is willing to ‘reach acrosss the aisle’ ....


7 posted on 09/24/2009 8:59:41 AM PDT by Freddd
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To: Vigilanteman

McCain voted for the bailouts, and thus ended his run on the WH.


8 posted on 09/24/2009 9:00:08 AM PDT by stockpirate ("I came NOT to bring peace but a sword." - Jesus Christ)
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To: pissant

Good!


9 posted on 09/24/2009 9:00:53 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 246 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: cowboyway

“Sarah goes to Hong Kong, challenges the Chinese and praises America...Obonga goes to New York, apologizes for America, denounces Israel and kow-tows to a bunch of tin horn dictators and thugs.”

Well put! That sez a ton!


10 posted on 09/24/2009 9:04:02 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: pissant

Why fight McKennedy?

Nobody cares what he (or his dipsy bimbo daughter) thinks about anything.


11 posted on 09/24/2009 9:04:29 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: pissant

Mrs. Palin isn’t ready to be CinC / POTUS, nor will she be in 2012....but she is completely right on this subject of the need for / more F-22s.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 9:04:57 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: cowboyway

“Just sayin............”

And liking what you are saying...can’t be repeated too much


13 posted on 09/24/2009 9:06:08 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all!!!)
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To: pissant

“She is completely right on this subject of the need for more F-22s.”

she is completely right on this subject of the need for more F-22s.

she is completely right on this subject of the need for more F-22s.

she is completely right on this subject of the need for more F-22s.

she is completely right on this subject of the need for more F-22s.

Can’t say it enough!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 09/24/2009 9:07:14 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Freddd

I’ll wait to see Palin’s statements on those topics. So far, not so good.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 9:08:23 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Indeed. She's got the right stance.

On other threads, I've recently been told that McCain was a great patriot and would always support a strong military. The only real patriot on that ticket was Sarah.

16 posted on 09/24/2009 9:08:57 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke

McCain is a patriot. Just not a very bright one.


17 posted on 09/24/2009 9:09:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: SevenMinusOne

She is infinitely more qualified than obama on ALL counts.
Whether she can win, who knows, but again, she is MORE READY to be CommInChief and POTUS than obama ever thought...


18 posted on 09/24/2009 9:20:11 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: pissant

The wider the divide, the better off she’ll be.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 9:21:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: pissant

it’s hard to imagine how they could have stayed on the same page if RINO Johnny had gotten elected


20 posted on 09/24/2009 9:22:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: pissant
More clean breaks from McCain can only help her.

Agreed...I'm very happy to see this one. Though I have generally respected McCain's stances on the military I could not understand his position on the F-22, he is looking no further than the end of his nose.

21 posted on 09/24/2009 9:22:28 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: pissant

The Left’s new alchemy: turn guns to butter. New new Dark Ages.


22 posted on 09/24/2009 9:22:56 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: pissant

We have our Maggie.

She is definitely not wobbly in any sense.


23 posted on 09/24/2009 9:23:43 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: pissant

Okay, Sarah, past time to tell us what you really think about Amnesty!!

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2009/08/time-to-speak-up-sarah-palin-whats-it.html


24 posted on 09/24/2009 9:25:40 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: stockpirate

“McCain voted for the bailouts, and thus ended his run on the WH.”

Yep. Had McCain stood against bailouts, he’d be the president.


25 posted on 09/24/2009 9:26:18 AM PDT by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: stockpirate

McCain voted for the bailouts, and thus ended his run on the WH.
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Yep


26 posted on 09/24/2009 9:26:45 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: pissant

Palin broke with McCain in November 2008. The question now is whether he will be following her, because that’s how it’s going to be.


27 posted on 09/24/2009 9:28:55 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Freddd

“Palin is not for illegal alien Amnesty, McCain is.”

Really, then why does she insist that McCain/Kennedy Amnesty is the way to go??? She also doesn’t approve of workplace raids to root out illegally working aliens.

[snip] PALIN: “. We - our policy - John McCain has been so clear with his policy and it makes a lot of sense too. We secure our borders first. But then with a comprehensive approach we must deal humanely with those who are here, and we must allow the steps to be taken to protect the families of those who are here, maybe as illegal immigrants today.....”

UNIVISION: “Talking about - still with immigration - ICE has arrested and deported almost five thousand undocumented immigrants in the last year, separated many Hispanic families. Would you support stopping these raids until comprehensive immigration reform could be passed in Congress?”

Palin: “Well, the unfortunate thing of course about the raids is that it does affect the families involved here. Parents and children are separated and that’s tragic.” (No, that is by choice of the alien, Sarah - they can take their kids and we pay for it!)

“Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America.”
Univision: As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?
Sarah Palin: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant - there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants - not only economically is that just an impossibility but that’s not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.”

http://reuters.viewdle.com/video/Palin+addresses+Chavez+and+illegal+immigration+in+first+Spanish+interv...?vid=reuters-3009-USA-PALIN-1224643320.mpg&pid=1061d1c341ca60d466cf2db77ea52811

Now we find out that SarahPac has donated only to candidates who are for amnesty....like John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Orrin Hatch, etc. Sarah came out strongly against Obamacare, but never objected to the fact that illegal aliens would get the benefits.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 9:30:08 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: SevenMinusOne

She isn’t? Why?

And Obama was? “I” had move foreign policy experience than Obama.

WRT McCain, serving on active duty as a junior officer is not what I call foreign policy experience. He got up every morning and did what he was told.

A sitting Governor, however, has foreign policy responsibility, especially when that Governor’s state borders a potential (and former) foreign adversary.

McCain is a complete RINO on most issues and a hard core democrat on the rest.

(At least we agree on the F-22)


29 posted on 09/24/2009 9:30:45 AM PDT by CTOCS (Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.)
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To: pissant
In the last line

"Indeed, they move her closer to Republican orthodoxy"

Ben Smith should have said

Indeed, they move her closer to Republican NeoCon orthodoxy.

The NeoCons are within Palin's closest circle of advisors and they hate Realist Bob Gates. They hate that Brent Scowcroft and Henry Kissinger are advising Obama

30 posted on 09/24/2009 9:36:22 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: AuntB

It was pretty clear that the only thing Palin disagreed with McCain on during the campaign was drilling. That was the one issue they openly admitted disagreement. Whether it was for appearance sake or she really agreed with him on the rest, I don’t know. But, for whatever it’s worth (probably not much), she did not oppose his positions on immigration, TARP and all the rest.


31 posted on 09/24/2009 9:37:38 AM PDT by crunk
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To: SevenMinusOne
Mrs. Palin isn’t ready to be CinC / POTUS, nor will she be in 2012....

And Obama was/is????????

32 posted on 09/24/2009 9:38:05 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I would too. Detente was such a wonderful policy.


33 posted on 09/24/2009 9:40:25 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Maybe you can justify and rationalize the republican bloodbaths of 2006 and 2008 that the NeoCons gave you?


34 posted on 09/24/2009 9:43:27 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Who are the neocons? Anyone who supported taking out Saddam?


35 posted on 09/24/2009 9:48:09 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
So tell me, if we can get you $2 trillion out of Congress, will that be enough to "build a nation" in Afghanistan? How many F 22s will you need?

BTW, "taking out Saddam" was only half of the NeoCon plan, the other half was installing Malichi.

36 posted on 09/24/2009 9:53:51 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Answer my questions and I’ll answer yours.


37 posted on 09/24/2009 9:54:32 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
"Who are the NeoCons?"

I suggest you start at the Project for a New American Century.

38 posted on 09/24/2009 10:00:45 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Freddd

Reach across the isle? I read that comment a lot, and have said it myself often enough. No, he resides on the other side of the isle. It’s his old home address (R) that he simply refuses to change. Leadership should change it for him.


39 posted on 09/24/2009 10:10:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Wearing neck brace in commemoration of Ted Kennedy's contribution to our society.)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I recognize two names on that list of the guys running that site. None look like elected politicians.


40 posted on 09/24/2009 10:14:58 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: AuntB

Michele Bachmann is pro amnesty?


41 posted on 09/24/2009 10:28:10 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: AuntB
You have a rather odd sense of humor (the linked interview about illegal immigration is in Espanol).

http://reuters.viewdle.com/video/Palin+addresses+Chavez+and+illegal+immigration+in+first+Spanish+interv...?vid=reuters-3009-USA-PALIN-1224643320.mpg&pid=1061d1c341ca60d466cf2db77ea52811

I don't speak MEXICAN LINGO!!

English for Americans, please

42 posted on 09/24/2009 10:31:42 AM PDT by skeptoid
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To: AuntB
Really, then why does she insist that McCain/Kennedy Amnesty is the way to go???

She "insists" that is the way to go? Do you have a post election source for that?

43 posted on 09/24/2009 10:31:46 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: pissant
More clean breaks from McCain can only help her.

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Agreed. This is not only a smart move, I believe it's sincere.

44 posted on 09/24/2009 10:34:03 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pissant

Yep.


45 posted on 09/24/2009 10:34:40 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: PGR88

Romney supporters.


46 posted on 09/24/2009 10:34:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SevenMinusOne
Mrs. Palin isn’t ready to be CinC / POTUS, nor will she be in 2012.

What would it take to convince you?

47 posted on 09/24/2009 10:35:46 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: pissant
Did you notice who the chairman was?

Do you recall the story of his boat trip to Alaska and introduction to Palin?

Or, leading the conversation in a different direction, do you recall that Murdoch sold the Weekly Standard to Philip Anschutz, who bought the San Francisco Examiner in 2004. Well, Anschutz inherited a lot of money and is the richest TheoCon in the world, and spends a lot of money to subsidize the Discovery Institute.

Given the intersection of many events, and putting on a tinfoil hat, we can safely say that the Reagan coalition is definately dead and the new GOP coalition is between the NeoCons and TheoCons.

Do you think that Dick Cheney would consent to running as Palin's VP?

48 posted on 09/24/2009 10:37:17 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: pissant
More clean breaks from McCain can only help her.

Especially in the area of Amnesty and secure borders.

49 posted on 09/24/2009 10:37:32 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Ben Ficklin
TheoCons

If you mean social conservatives then that pretty much is the conservative movement, the rest all play a part but they are smaller in numbers, most non-social conservatives already vote democrat.

50 posted on 09/24/2009 10:41:18 AM PDT by ansel12
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