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Fmr. Gov. Doug Wilder (D) Refuses To Endorse Creigh Deeds (D) For Governor
Virginia Tomorrow ^ | 9/24/2009 | L. Douglas Wilder

Posted on 09/24/2009 9:31:10 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders

here may have been no period in our State’s history when the voters are more aware of what issues confront them in their choice for Governor. We have undergone the worst economic downturn since the Depression. I have previously set forth the things that I would look to see the next Governor address. (1) Who is best suited by temperament and training to govern in hard times? (2) Who has presented to the people realistic plans for Education, Transportation, Health Care, Public Safety and Social Services, etc.? (3) Who is strong enough to stand up for the state when tough calls have to be made? 4) Who has the vision that can inspire confidence and assure people that Virginia can still move forward, even while confronting difficult choices.

The overriding “issue” in this year’s Governor’s race will be the judgment the voters make about which candidate is most capable of managing tough times and establishing the right priorities for when the economy begins to recover.

Throughout my entire involvement with public service, I have tried to be a voice for those most often left out when decisions are being made which affect them in their everyday lives. As a state senator, I fought to get rid of the sales tax on food. As Lt. Governor, I fought to get rid of the sales tax on non-prescription drugs and opposed the increased sales taxes for transportation, because they are regressive taxes, meaning the poor pay at the same rate as the rich. I have lived long enough not to assume that these voiceless people can always count on someone articulating for them.

This is not the time in our Commonwealth to talk about any kind of tax increase, especially those that are fundamentally regressive and will hit hardest those who are struggling.

Rather, it is the time to put our fiscal house in order, strengthening the Commonwealth for the future.

Now is the time to replenish the “Rainy Day” fund which has bailed several administrations out of deficits, but will be all but depleted for future administrations to have at their avail. It is a time to do everything possible to let the public know that we are serious about getting a handle on spending and controlling it better. Re-examine the efficiency and effectiveness reports, previously administratively commissioned, draw from them, and make this reform agenda further known to the public. It is a time to return to the funding of “necessities” rather than “niceties”.

Furthermore, In my conversations with the people across the state, I have not encountered anyone who has listed as their priority the need for them to have more handguns. The present law permits anyone of sufficient age, who is not a felon, to be able to buy one gun a month; twelve a year, twenty four a year for couples etc..

Mr. Deeds thinks that’s not enough and signed a pledge to repeal that law.

This action would allow the truck loads of guns to come back in exchange for drugs from those Northeastern states where gun laws are more stringent. This law was put on the books by Democrats and Republicans because they had seen where those guns go to in our cities and suburban areas where the violence occurs. Partly because of that law, as Mayor, I was able to have the lowest crime rate in our capital city of Richmond in 30 years.

I do not see how endorsing a proposal to have more handguns brought into our cities and suburban areas qualifies as any type of urban renewal plan.

For this situation to exist and for Democrats who lead our party to say nothing is puzzling and inexplicable.

The requests, made of me, have been to endorse Mr. Deeds, the Democratic Candidate, for Governor. I refrain from doing so and will leave that choice to the voters.

This in no wise is intended to detract from Mr. Deeds in terms of character or commitment to the task of being Governor. I find that he, as well as Mr. McDonnell are fine and honorable men and well suited to that task. The question before me is whether I support the Democratic candidate’s position in addressing these issues. I have not thus far in the progress of the campaign, and as aforesaid refrain from so doing.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2009endorsements; creighdeeds; deeds; dirtydeeds; dougwilder; mcdonnell; va2009; virginia; wilder
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1 posted on 09/24/2009 9:31:10 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders
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To: ReagansRaiders

Gee, seems Deeds can’t even get a VA DEM to support him. Too bad its WAPO and Deeds against the world. Hope things work out for after politics.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 9:33:27 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: ReagansRaiders

Well, his excuse for not endorsing Deeds is apparently that Deeds is not leftist enough on the gun issue. He says that this is not the time to raise taxes, but doesn’t really follow through on it.

Never mind, every little bit helps, if this weakens Deeds.


3 posted on 09/24/2009 9:34:44 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

It’s not just the gun issue. He slammed Deeds in a big way on taxes.

Wilder’s a social lib. But he managed to counteract a budget deficit (left by Gerry Baliles) without raising taxes.


4 posted on 09/24/2009 9:40:46 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: ReagansRaiders; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...

Virginia ping.


5 posted on 09/24/2009 9:41:19 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: ReagansRaiders

Does Deeds have a position on using state planes to visit one’s mistress?


6 posted on 09/24/2009 9:41:55 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: ReagansRaiders

Well, Wilder actually tries to do the right thing it seems like. That’s unusual for a politician.


7 posted on 09/24/2009 9:42:25 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: ReagansRaiders

” The question before me is whether I support the Democratic candidate’s position in addressing these issues. I have not thus far in the progress of the campaign, and as aforesaid refrain from so doing.”

LOL!!


8 posted on 09/24/2009 9:46:12 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a Daffy Duck)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Way to go Doug!


9 posted on 09/24/2009 9:51:07 AM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I don’t, I’m probably wrong here, but I know you will steer me in the right direction..........so here goes.

IMO, on the issue of taxes this appears to me to be a back door endorsement of McD. That’s how I was reading it, before he got into the handgun issue. That, again IMO, was a major slam AGAINST Deeds.

I don’t know enough about how much sway Wilder holds over anything to really say if this is good or bad, although I have to figure it was not unexpected.


10 posted on 09/24/2009 9:52:07 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort)
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To: Apple Blossom; theKid51

ping


11 posted on 09/24/2009 9:53:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We need more Joe Wilson's. OBAMA is ACORN ACORN is OBAMA)
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To: Gabz

Wilder never does this sort of thing this early. Never. He refused to endorse in the 2005 race between McD and Deeds as well, but I don’t think it was anywhere near the harsh rebuke this was of Deeds.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 9:54:32 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Bob McDonnell for (Virginia) Governor - 2009)
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To: Gabz

McDonnell and Deeds have changed positions on the handgun issue. McDonnell supported the one gun a month bill. That gained Deeds the NRA endorsement in 2005. Since Virginia Tech, Deeds has gone way to the left on guns. McDonnell has moved back to the right.

That said, Wilder went as far as he could go. He’s a Democrat and always will be. He was lobbied hard by Deeds, Kaine and Obama to endorse Deeds and declined. Not endorsing McDonnell is a hat tip to the President.

In reality, had Wilder endorsed Deeds it would have been a yawner. Democrats endorse Democrats. But you’re right that this is a major slam.

Combine that with the Fairfax Chamber of Commerce and the Fraternal Order of Police endorsing McDonnell this week and this is a very good thing.

It won’t change any hard core voter minds. But it will have an influence on the independents.


13 posted on 09/24/2009 10:01:42 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: ReagansRaiders

I remember the no endorsement in 2005, but I was still pretty new to VA politics at that point. Heck, 4 years later and I still feel pretty much the same way. We’re kinda, sorta isolated from lots of stuff here on the Eastern Shore. I truly rely on those of you on FR that actually know what’s going on and the background to help me figure out what’s going on :)


14 posted on 09/24/2009 10:03:47 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort)
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To: Corin Stormhands

When I taught sixth grade at Freedom Hill in Fairfax county, the people living in Fairfax county were ar more conservative and moral than they are now. I sure hope you are right that the endorsements will influence the ‘independent and moderate’ voters.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 10:03:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
But it will have an influence on the independents.

And that is what counts.

Please read my response to RR --- I meant to add you to that ping (sorry)

16 posted on 09/24/2009 10:05:45 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort)
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To: ReagansRaiders

I guess Doug wants to cement his position as the worst governor Virginia ever had.


17 posted on 09/24/2009 10:09:02 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Wilder is upset that he is yesterday’s news. An Obama White House has made Wilder meanless.


18 posted on 09/24/2009 10:09:36 AM PDT by yongin
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To: Corin Stormhands

I knew there was something I liked about Wilder.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 10:14:01 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Gabz

Saw that. :-)


20 posted on 09/24/2009 10:14:14 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

“This in no wise is intended to detract from Mr. Deeds in terms of character or commitment to the task of being Governor. I find that he, as well as Mr. McDonnell are fine and honorable men and well suited to that task. The question before me is whether I support the Democratic candidate’s position in addressing these issues. I have not thus far in the progress of the campaign, and as aforesaid refrain from so doing.”

This statement clearly means that Wilder does not support Deeds for Governor (for reasons he made known and probably for reasons he won’t discuss publicly), and that a Governor Bob McDonnell would be just fine by him. Maybe some will think I’m wrong, but since when have former VA Governors not endorsed the nominees of their party for the same job? This should really hurt Deeds with the African American vote.


21 posted on 09/24/2009 10:16:32 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel; ReagansRaiders
I guess Doug wants to cement his position as the worst governor Virginia ever had.

No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about.

Wilder was handed an enormous budget deficit by Gerry Baliles. He managed to cut state government and costs and balance the budget without raising taxes.

Granted, his record as Mayor of Richmond was not as stellar. But, for a Dem, he was a pretty darn good Governor.

22 posted on 09/24/2009 10:16:37 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

he should’ve been the dem’s choice for first black president.


23 posted on 09/24/2009 10:21:24 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Fiscal conservatism without social conservatism is dead.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
I guess Doug wants to cement his position as the worst governor Virginia ever had.

Despite Kaine's recent surge, the modern day title still belongs to Gilmore, however, William Berkeley was still the worst Governor Virginia ever had.

24 posted on 09/24/2009 10:23:27 AM PDT by relee ('Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: ari-freedom

I think if he had waited and not tried to run for President during his term as Governor, he would have had a shot.


25 posted on 09/24/2009 10:23:54 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: ReagansRaiders

This could be huge... black turnout in VA may be light.. if so, “Mr. Deeds” goose is cooked.


26 posted on 09/24/2009 10:50:44 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: ReagansRaiders

Did Wilder make this announcement in a grand fashion, so as to shed light onto himself? That seems to be how he rolls.


27 posted on 09/24/2009 11:05:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (This Revolution will be peaceful if possible; other than peaceful if necessary.)
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To: Cicero

Fake out to make people think Deeeds is not a liberal.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 11:07:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

Wilder is probably just holding out for another ambassadorship.


29 posted on 09/24/2009 11:12:19 AM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: Corin Stormhands

Not really unexpected, what with Doug being Doug, but the D’s have to be fuming that at the end he basically put the 2 candidates on the same footing for character and qualifications.

To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised with Wilder’s performance as governor. Not at all like Obama has done as president with using any and all means to advance an incredibly progressive agenda, and populating the WH and agencies with fellow travelers.

Then, too, those of us who did the grunt volunteer work locally for Coleman were rather let down later when he and John Warner chose to screw Ollie North and reelect Robb.


30 posted on 09/24/2009 11:37:09 AM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: ReagansRaiders

I don’t think Wilder has ever endorsed a Republican. I think there is a very good chance he WILL endorse Deeds before the election. However, Wilder is against higher taxes and raiding the rainy day fund. The only time the fund has been raided is by Democrats Kaine and Warner. Wilder also headed a commission for Warner that recommended many state government cost cutting measures when Warner was governor. None were implemented by Warner. I believe that frosted Wilder.

If Wilder sticks with this and does not endorse Deeds, it will hurt Deeds.


31 posted on 09/24/2009 11:37:19 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: ReagansRaiders

The underlying truth is that Deeds is viewed as a “cracker” by many black leaders and voters.


32 posted on 09/24/2009 11:48:07 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: ReagansRaiders
This in no wise is intended

Did he really write this?

I mean, lots of folks have a typo here and there, but that's not a typo for "way".

Sounds like a total retard.

33 posted on 09/24/2009 12:02:23 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle; ReagansRaiders
This in no wise is intended

It's not a common phrase, but is also not incorrect.

It's old English, King James speak.

And yes, he really talks like that.

34 posted on 09/24/2009 12:32:30 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

I heard this on Hannity’s radio program and couldn’t quit laughing. Obama personally called Wilder and it still didn’t make any difference. Looks like Obama’s power is decreasing even with the Dems! :)


35 posted on 09/24/2009 1:27:34 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Woebama

Doing the right thing is unusual for Wilder, who would regularly fly a state plane into Charlottesville while governor to bang the wife of John Kluge, and who tried to privatize the liquor stores for the benefit of his brother who happened to be in the package store business.

Still, glad he’s knifing Deeds in the back.


36 posted on 09/24/2009 1:38:07 PM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
I am as conservative as they come and I thought he was a great governor. I would prefer him to the one we have now. I realize Wilder is socially liberal, but he is a contrarian in a good way. He did not raise taxes, he cut spending, and he read the riot act to the Education Establishment that they were wasting money and don't expect more from the state until they were more responsible, etc.

Of course, a democrat can get away with that...sort of like Nixon going to China.

37 posted on 09/24/2009 2:01:08 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: PhiKapMom

If Obama had offerred him something, he might have budged. In the 1994 Senate race between Chuck Robb and Ollie North, he ran as an Independent until a month or two before the election when Slick Willie offerred him an ambassadorship. Wilder took it, dropped out, and endorsed Robb. If he had stayed in the race, North almost certainly would’ve won that race.


38 posted on 09/24/2009 2:11:45 PM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

As long as N. Va. votes for the liberal; the Dems have a good chance. Now we need to make sure Bob wins and cut the nonsense of supporting some loony 3rd Party in any of these Dem vs Pub elections.


39 posted on 09/24/2009 4:30:02 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: conservativebuckeye; PhiKapMom

Where do you get your information that Wilder was offered an ambassadorship? Your posts today are the first I’ve ever heard of it and it shows in none of his biographies.


40 posted on 09/24/2009 6:07:00 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: ReagansRaiders

http://www.bobmcdonnell.com/ for Governor

http://www.billbolling.com/ for Lieutenant Governor

http://www.cuccinelli.com/ for Attorney General


41 posted on 09/24/2009 7:01:17 PM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: PhiKapMom

Dems like David Patterson & Doug Wilder are offended by Obama telling them what to do.


42 posted on 09/24/2009 7:36:33 PM PDT by yongin
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To: yongin

About time people are waking up that he is not a dictator who always gets his way. If I was Patterson I would really be offended.


43 posted on 09/24/2009 8:46:53 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: relee

William Berkeley ? Damn. Now THAT is old school.


44 posted on 09/24/2009 9:35:32 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ReagansRaiders
This action would allow the truck loads of guns to come back in exchange for drugs from those Northeastern states where gun laws are more stringent

???

Does he not think criminals are breaking his precious law?? Does he think he must slime everyone in his own state as a criminal?

45 posted on 09/25/2009 2:47:20 AM PDT by GeronL (Are you one of those "individual responsibility" people?)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw; All

The election isn’t until November, and the polls are tightening. Deeds will win unfortunately this time it looks like.


46 posted on 09/25/2009 8:13:35 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas; ReagansRaiders; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; ...
Deeds will win unfortunately this time it looks like.

Are you nuts? Of course the race is tightening. Democrats are finally saying they'll vote for Deeds. But McDonnell leads with the independents, all across the state. Combine that with:

The Washington Post coming out this week and saying that Deeds will unequivocally raise taxes...

McDonnell absolutely destroying Deeds in last week's debate.

Deeds appearing very Kerry-esque in a post debate interview and fumbling over the tax issue.

A prominent Democratic State Senator saying that this is NOT the time to raise taxes.

The nation's first African American governor declining to endorse Deeds despite being BEGGED by the President and current Governor (and chair of the DNC)

The Fairfax Chamber of Commerce endorsing McDonnell

The Hampton Roads Chamber of Commerce endorsing McDonnell

The NRA endorsing McDonnell

The Fraternal Order of Police endorsing McDonnell.

Even the frickin' HUMANE SOCIETY has endorsed McDonnell.

Obama is very unpopular in the state. For cryin out loud, George Allen polls higher than Obama (and Kaine) in Virginia.

I know you people mean well. And I know that Virginia's had a few very bad runs in the last couple of years.

But don't come on here not knowing our state and pronounce us dead in the frickin' middle of the battle.

47 posted on 09/25/2009 9:14:49 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands; rwfromkansas

Corin, don’t you just love all of the “encouragement” we are getting from outside the commonwealth? It almost brings me to tears. Seems to me that they need to put their own statehouses in order rather than commenting on ours.


48 posted on 09/25/2009 9:22:48 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

You know, without all the outside “help” we’ve received in recent years, we just might’ve had a better track record.


49 posted on 09/25/2009 9:35:27 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: Corin Stormhands

Yeah, I wish they would do us a favor and stop doing us favors.


50 posted on 09/25/2009 9:42:09 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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