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Podesta Says Value-Added Tax ‘More Plausible’ as Deficits Grow
Yahoo! News ^ | 9-25-2009 | Heidi Przybyla

Posted on 09/25/2009 6:12:03 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner

John Podesta compared the nation’s current budget crisis to the situation former President Bill Clinton faced in 1993 and said some form of a value-added tax is “more plausible today than it ever has been.”

“There’s going to have to be revenue in this budget,” said Podesta, Clinton’s former chief of staff and co-chairman of President Barack Obama’s transition team, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing today.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhotaxincrease; obama; podesta; tax; taxandspend; taxspendregulate; vat
Trial balloon. Needs popping fast.
1 posted on 09/25/2009 6:12:03 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The virtual Galt’s Gulch is going to trip them up BIGTIME.


2 posted on 09/25/2009 6:14:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

He’s got a funny spin. I would say instead that a Republican majority is more plausible.


3 posted on 09/25/2009 6:18:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Hey Podesta!
Taxes KILL productivity!!!!!!

But then, destroying American industry and busines IS your objective......


4 posted on 09/25/2009 6:27:43 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I stand amazed. Thank God (I mean no Blasphemy in that) that Peter Shiff is running. He could change the whole debate.


5 posted on 09/25/2009 6:28:20 PM PDT by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: Colvin

Go for it. Another broken promise by the (conceited) ONE ... the one about no taxes on the middle class ... can only help us.

Do it before 2010, please.


6 posted on 09/25/2009 6:31:54 PM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: Colvin

With a sales tax of 10% in CA..any federal value added tax would hit like a bomb, even with their loyal Rat base.


7 posted on 09/25/2009 6:32:07 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
As soon as obama raises taxes it's over for him, Joe the plumber will have been proved right.
8 posted on 09/25/2009 6:49:43 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Oldexpat
You are exactly right, they dont want to pay more taxes either, they just want to rich or in other words someone else to pay.

They wont even pay for their healthcare they want so much.

Liberals are all and only about a free lunch.

9 posted on 09/25/2009 6:51:41 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
They saddle us with a VAT, it's time to start CWII.

Seriously...

10 posted on 09/25/2009 6:53:24 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Governments love VAT. Businesses collect it for them and of course the rate is so easy to change (always upwards).

In the UK it’s around 17% now, in France 19% (my figures may be out of date but if so they’re likely on the low side).


11 posted on 09/25/2009 6:54:04 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Podesta is a no good stinking marxist. He is left of Lenin. He is a mean-spirited, vile, hateful, gutter snipe. Everything he supports is all about tearing this great country down. He is venomous, destructive, and a douche bag. Other than that, he is an okay guy.


12 posted on 09/25/2009 7:08:56 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

National Sales Tax to be added on top of huge state, county and or city sales taxes.

Thanks a bunch J. Podman. You brighten our lives so much...not. I can’t decide if I despise Clintanoids like Podesta,Lindsey, Berger, Reno, Holder, Albright, etc. more for being crooks or for bringing misery to all but their inner circle.


13 posted on 09/25/2009 7:17:59 PM PDT by rod1
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
They have been wanting to do this for decades!

Now it looks like their wet dream just might come true! Another large permanent tax. Oh joy, Oh bliss.

14 posted on 09/25/2009 9:11:53 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

0’s puppet master speaks.

http://www.muckety.com/John-Podesta/8565.muckety


15 posted on 09/25/2009 9:23:55 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
VAT taxes are regressive as hell! Podesta assures us that, "such a tax may be regressive, but can be balanced by exempting some products and using “the money to support low-wage workers.”"

This one I don't think they can sell.

16 posted on 09/26/2009 12:52:16 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

John Podesta is the President and CEO of the *Center for American Progress. Under his leadership, the Center has become a notable leader in the development of and advocacy for progressive policy.

*a liberal think tank in Washington, D.C

Podesta worked as a trial attorney in the Department of Justice’s Honors Program in the Land and Natural Resources Division (1976–1977), and as a Special Assistant to the Director of ACTION, the federal volunteer agency, (1978–1979).

Podesta held a number of positions on Capitol Hill, including: Counselor to Democratic Leader Senator Thomas Daschle (1995–1996)

In addition, in 1988, Podesta founded with his brother Tony, Podesta Associates, Inc., a Washington, D.C. “government relations and public affairs” lobbying firm.

He had a key role in introducing *Executive Order 12958 and also oversaw Clinton’s pardons in the last days of his administration.

*an unprecedented effort to declassify millions of pages from the U.S. diplomatic and national security history

In 2008, Podesta authored his book The Power of Progress: How America’s Progressives Can (Once Again) Save Our Economy, Our Climate, and Our Country. In it, he articulates a vision of progressive values based on four core lessons: 1) Progressives stand with people, not privilege; 2) Progressives believe in the Common Good and a government that offers a hand up; 3) Progressives hold that all people are equal in the eyes of God and under the law; and 4) Progressives stand for universal human rights and cooperative global security.

In 2009, Podesta accompanied former President Clinton to North Korea for negotiations securing the release of two American journalists imprisoned on espionage charges. He can be seen in numerous widely circulated photographs of Clinton meeting with Kim Jong Il.


17 posted on 09/26/2009 1:36:19 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Of course, he means in addition to the current income tax.
18 posted on 09/26/2009 5:50:26 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: Dead Corpse
“There’s going to have to be revenue in this budget,”

Sue all the democrats for the deficit, ask for treble damages.

19 posted on 09/27/2009 1:43:27 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

PODESTA= GEORGE SOROS STOOGE

George Soros front group——>>>

The Center for American Progress is a liberal[1][2][3][4] public policy research and advocacy organization. Its website describes it as “... a nonpartisan research and educational institute dedicated to promoting a strong, just and free America that ensures opportunity for all.”[5]

Its President and Chief Executive Officer is John Podesta, who served as chief of staff to then U.S. President Bill Clinton. Located in Washington, D.C., the Center for American Progress has a campus outreach group, Campus Progress, and a sister advocacy organization, the Center for American Progress Action Fund. Citing the significant number of its staff and former staff that have been appointed to positions in the Obama Administration, Time magazine recently declared that there is “no group in Washington with more influence at this moment in history.”[6][7]


20 posted on 09/27/2009 2:28:06 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Why do liberals always think that taxes you in a new way somehow eases the pain of being taxed?


21 posted on 09/27/2009 2:36:48 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: All

EU countries

Country Standard rate Reduced rate Abbr. Name
 Austria 20% 12% or 10% USt. Umsatzsteuer
 Belgium 21% 12%, 6% or 0% in some cases BTW
TVA
MWSt
Belasting over de toegevoegde waarde
Taxe sur la Valeur Ajoutée
Mehrwertsteuer
 Bulgaria 20% 0% or 7% ДДС Данък върху добавената стойност
 Cyprus 15% 5% ΦΠΑ Φόρος Προστιθέμενης Αξίας
 Czech Republic 19% 9% DPH Daň z přidané hodnoty
 Denmark 25% none moms Merværdiafgift
 Estonia 20% (as of July 1, 2009) 9% km käibemaks
 Finland 22% 17% or 8% ALV
Moms
Arvonlisävero
Mervärdesskatt
 France 19.6% 5.5% or 2.1% TVA Taxe sur la valeur ajoutée
 Germany 19% 7% MwSt./USt. Mehrwertsteuer/Umsatzsteuer
 Greece 19% 9% or 4.5%
(reduced by 30% to 13%, 6% and 3% on islands)
ΦΠΑ Φόρος Προστιθέμενης Αξίας
 Hungary 25% (as of July 1, 2009[8]) 5% ÁFA általános forgalmi adó
 Ireland 21.5% 13.5%, 4.8% or 0% CBL
VAT
Cáin Bhreisluacha (Irish)
Value Added Tax (English)
 Italy 20% 10% or 4% IVA Imposta sul Valore Aggiunto
 Latvia 21% 10% PVN Pievienotās vērtības nodoklis
 Lithuania 21% (as of September 1, 2009) 9% or 5% PVM Pridėtinės vertės mokestis
 Luxembourg 15% 12%, 9%, 6%, or 3% TVA Taxe sur la Valeur Ajoutée
 Malta 18% 5% VAT Taxxa tal-Valur Miżjud
 Netherlands 19% 6% or 0% BTW Belasting over de toegevoegde waarde
 Poland 22% 7%, 3% or 0% PTU/VAT Podatek od towarów i usług
 Portugal 20% (as of July 1, 2008) 12% or 5% IVA Imposto sobre o Valor Acrescentado
Madeira and Azores 15% 8% or 4% IVA Imposto sobre o Valor Acrescentado
 Romania 19% 9% TVA Taxa pe valoarea adăugată
 Slovakia 19% 10% DPH Daň z pridanej hodnoty
 Slovenia 20% 8.5% DDV Davek na dodano vrednost
 Spain 16% (18% from 1 July 2010 on) [9] 7% or 4% (8% or 4% from 1 July 2010 on) [10] IVA Impuesto sobre el valor añadido
Canary Islands 5% 0% or 2% IGIC Impuesto General Indirecto Canario
 Sweden 25% 12% or 6% Moms Mervärdesskatt
 United Kingdom 15% (temporary cut from 17.5%) 5% or 0% VAT (Welsh: TAW) Value Added Tax (Welsh: Treth ar Werth)

[edit] Non-EU countries

Country Standard rate Reduced rate Local name
 Albania 20% 0% TVSH = Tatimi mbi Vleren e Shtuar
 Argentina 21% 10.5% or 0% IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Armenia 20% 0% AAH = Avelatsvats arjheki hark
ԱԱՀ = Ավելացված արժեքի հարկ
 Australia 10% 0% GST = Goods and Services Tax
 Belarus 18%
ПДВ = Падатак на дададзеную вартасьць
 Barbados 15%
VAT = Value Added Tax
 Bosnia and Herzegovina 17% 0% PDV = Porez na dodanu vrijednost
 Brazil 12% + 25% + 5% 0% *IPI - 12% = Imposto sobre produtos industrializados (Tax over industrialized products) - Federal Tax
ICMS - 25% = Imposto sobre circulacao e servicos (Tax over commercialization and services) - State Tax
ISS - 5% = Imposto sobre servico de qualquer natureza (Tax over any service) - City tax

*IPI = Imposto sobre Produtos Industrializados (Tax over industrialized products) can reach 60% over imported products.
 Canada 5% 4.5%2 GST = Goods and Services Tax, TPS = Taxe sur les produits et services; HST = Harmonized Sales Tax, TVH = Taxe de vente harmonisée
 Chile 19%
IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Colombia 16%
IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 People's Republic of China3 17% 6% or 3% 增值税 (pinyin:zēng zhí shuì)
 Croatia 23% 10% or 0% PDV = Porez na dodanu vrijednost
 Dominican Republic 16% 12% or 0% ITBIS = Impuesto sobre Transferencia de Bienes Industrializados y Servicios
 Ecuador 12%
IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Egypt 10%
GST = Goods and Sales Tax (الضريبة على القيمة المضافة)
 El Salvador 13%
IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Fiji 12.5% 0% VAT = Value Added Tax
 Georgia 18% 0% DGhG = Damatebuli Ghirebulebis gdasakhadi დღგ = დამატებული ღირებულების გადასახადი
 Guatemala 12%
IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Guyana[11] 16% 0% VAT = Value Added Tax
 Iran 3%
VAT = Value Added Tax (مالیات بر ارزش افزوده)
 Iceland 24.5% 7%4 VSK = Virðisaukaskattur
 India5 12.5% 4%, 1%, or 0% VAT = Valued Added Tax
 Indonesia 10% 5% PPN = Pajak Pertambahan Nilai
 Israel6 16.5%7
Ma'am = מס ערך מוסף
 Japan 5%
Consumption tax = 消費税
 South Korea 10%
VAT = 부가세(附加稅, Bugase) = 부가가치세(附加價値稅, Bugagachise)
 Jersey8 3%
GST = Goods and Sales Tax
 Jordan 16%
GST = Goods and Sales Tax
 Kazakhstan 13%
Қосымша салық құны
 Kosovo 16%
TVSH = Tatimi mbi Vlerën e Shtuar
 Lebanon 10%
TVA = Taxe sur la valeur ajoutée
 Moldova 20% 8%, 5% or 0% TVA = Taxa pe Valoarea Adăugată
 Macedonia 18% 5% ДДВ = Данок на Додадена Вредност, DDV = Danok na Dodadena Vrednost
 Malaysia9 10%
GST = Goods and Services Tax (Government Tax)
 Mexico 15% 0% IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Montenegro 17%
PDV = Porez na dodatu vrijednost
 Mauritius 15%
VAT = Value Added Tax
 New Zealand 12.5%
GST = Goods and Services Tax
 Norway 25% 14% or 8% MVA = Merverdiavgift (bokmål)or meirverdiavgift (nynorsk) (informally moms)
 Pakistan 16% 1% or 0% GST = General Sales Tax
 Panama 5%
ITBMS = Impuesto de Transferencia de Bienes Muebles y Servicios
 Paraguay 10% 5% IVA= Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Peru 19%
IGV = Impuesto General a la Ventas
 Philippines 12%10
RVAT = Reformed Value Added Tax, locally known as Karagdagang Buwis
 Russia 18% 10% or 0% НДС = Налог на добавленную стоимость, NDS = Nalog na dobavlennuyu stoimost’
 Serbia 18% 8% or 0% ПДВ = Порез на додатну вредност, PDV = Porez na dodatu vrednost
 Singapore 7%
GST = Goods and Services Tax
 South Africa 14% 0% VAT = Valued Added Tax
 Sri Lanka 12%
Flag of Switzerland.svg Switzerland 7.6% 3.6% or 2.4% MWST = Mehrwertsteuer, TVA = Taxe sur la valeur ajoutée, IVA = Imposta sul valore aggiunto, TPV = Taglia sin la Plivalur
 Thailand 7%
VAT = Value Added Tax, ภาษีมูลค่าเพิ่ม
 Trinidad and Tobago 15%

 Turkey 18% 8% or 1% KDV = Katma değer vergisi
 Ukraine 20% 0% ПДВ = Податок на додану вартість, PDV = Podatok na dodanu vartist’.
 Uruguay 22% 10% IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado
 Vietnam 10% 5% or 0% GTGT = Giá Trị Gia Tăng
 Venezuela 12% 11% IVA = Impuesto al Valor Agregado

Note 1: HST is a combined federal/provincial VAT collected in some provinces. In the rest of Canada, the GST is a 5% federal VAT and if there is a Provincial Sales Tax (PST) it is a separate non-VAT tax.

Note 2: No real "reduced rate", but rebates generally available for new housing effectively reduce the tax to 4.5%.

Note 3: These taxes do not apply in Hong Kong and Macau, which are financially independent as special administrative regions.

Note 4: The reduced rate was 14% until 1 March 2007, when it was lowered to 7%. The reduced rate applies to heating costs, printed matter, restaurant bills, hotel stays, and most food.

Note 5: VAT is not implemented in 2 of India's 28 states.

Note 6: Except Eilat, where VAT is not raised.[12]

Note 7: The VAT in Israel is in the process of being gradually reduced. It was reduced from 18% to 17% on March 2004, to 16.5% on September 2005, and was set to its current rate on July 1, 2006. There are plans to further reduce it in the near future, but they depend on political changes in the Israeli parliament.

Note 8: The introduction of a goods and sales tax of 3% will be introduced on the 6th May 2008 to plug a large budget deficit in the island's government budget.

Note 9: In the 2005 Budget, the government announced that GST would be introduced in January 2007. Many details have not yet been confirmed but it has been stated that essential goods and small businesses would be exempted or zero rated. Rates have not yet been established as of June 2007.

Note 10: The President of the Philippines has the power to raise the tax to 12% after January 1, 2006. The tax was raised to 12% on February 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_added_tax#Example
22 posted on 09/27/2009 2:48:07 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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