Skip to comments.'Signature in the Cell' (Chuck Colson: Intelligent Design best explanation for origin of DNA)
Posted on 09/26/2009 10:23:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
A landmark book about intelligent design has hit the bookstore shelves. Ill tell you about it.
In recent years, there have been several important books about intelligent design that go to the debate about evolution and the origins of life. Bill Dembskis The Design Inference was first. Then along came Darwins Black Box by Michael Behe, showing the irreducible complexity of the cell, which casts grave doubts on Darwinian evolution as an explanation for life and higher life forms.
Now weve got Signature in the Cell by the Discovery Institutes Dr. Stephen Meyer.
Im going to warn you up front: Signature in the Cell is not light reading. If you are not conversant in molecular biology, you might feel a bit overwhelmed at times.
But this is a profound, hugely important book for anybody interested in the scientific debate of our timesthe origins of life. I feel its so important that we have posted an excerpt of the book at our website, BreakPoint.org, along with links to materials that will help you understand the main points of Signature in the Cell....
(Excerpt) Read more at breakpoint.org ...
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This book review is obviously aimed at a high-caliber audience.
Claiming something is miraculous does not explain it.
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What I found most interesting about Behe’s book was his description of the cascade of events involved in blood clotting. Although the subject matter is somewhat technical in nature his writing style is easy reading. An interesting read.
Science doesn’t explain anything, no more than engineering explains bridges. Scientist’s might explain a thing or attempt to, but not “science”. But you knew that so why the throw away?
I have adopted the term “Intentional Agency” - intelligent design is carrying too much baggage. And my term points to a Person. But, that’s just me!!
It is not miraculous that an intelligent agent designs informational codes. Happens all the time. It seems to be the only explanation on the table right now.
Bridges just happen miraculously and chemistry is a random parlor game of chance.
Gotcha. I'm convinced.
Can you prove from Science that Science is the only method of proving that?
Blood clotting is one of my favorite arguments for irreducible structure!
You are confusing operational science with origins science. Even the Intelligent Design movement has no problems with operational science...the dispute comes when you attempt to use the Scientific Method to "prove" the origin of life and the Universe. Two different areas of study.
Is this one of those "circular logic" puzzles?
If miracles don’t explain something, why is the question “What does?” so difficult to answer?
It really is a great book. I learned so much about the cell, dna, rna, and he does a great job of refuting all theories that have been developed since Crick figured out the structure of DNA. All theories start after DNA/proteins self-duplicate. No scientist or mathematician has explained, let alone proven, the beginning of the beginning of life. Not too hard a read either.
I answered it.
Use eye grasshopper.
I think you would like ‘Black Box’.
But, then you have to go back to some of the foundational elements of the Universe, and life on Earth, and look at the explanations given for them.
For instance, GRAVITY and MAGNETISM.
We know they EXIST, but no one can explain how they actually work.
Didn’t mean to shoot over your head, I just thought if you could say miracles DON’T explain something you would be able to explain what does, but thanks for the effort.
Because it's too darn hot at the source.
And is it accelerated up to c or does it move at that velocity from the moment it is emitted?
No one can get close enough to tell.
(sorry, just having some fun with your questions. AND they are good questions)
No one in the scientific fields can explain the origin of the Universe, and Life , yet.
Perhaps not to YOUR satisfaction.
P.S. As a result, we have no choice at the moment but to accept those things on faith.
Or am I wrong?
Not ALL things are known. Yet.
Literal creation and a young Earth are simply too outre' to swallow.
For me. YOUR mileage may vary.
I hadn’t heard anyone in the scientific fields claiming they had the ultimate answer, have you?
They do have the big bang theory, but one only need look at the last word, there, ‘theory’, as proof that it is not yet ‘proven’ (scientifically).
And they have no theories as of yet, as to WHY the big bang happened (if it did happen).
Actually, I'm pretty satisfied with the concept that the Creator of the Universe did it by 'imagining' it.
Same way humans have created everything non-natural thing that exists on this planet.
Not yet. But as knowledge grows worldviews change.
Creationists used to think the world was flat. That changed because of science.
And they have no theories as of yet, as to WHY the big bang happened (if it did happen).
Explosives are fun to play with. Perhaps God made it so.
Belief in God and science and evolution are not incompatible.
Except to some fanatical literal purists, I guess.
In what way is a beaver dam more natural than Hoover dam?
Nowhere in the Bible, did GOD inspire the authors of the books of the Bible to write that "those six days were actual 24 hour days".
Those who cling to an interpretation that it WAS, only seem to be doing so in regard to the question of evolution.
And they are way off base on that subject (evolution) anyway, as most of them believe (mostly due to the movie made about the Scopes Monkey Trial) that Darwin said Man evolved from Apes.
He never said that.
And I don't necessarily agree with Darwin's Theories, but I am intelligent enough to find out what his theory actually is.
Something imbued us with a greater 'knowledge', and gave us the ability to 'create'. If it were just a process of evolution that gave us these abilities, it would have shown up in other life forms, and gradually improved. It did not.
My word, I seem to have found a rational creationist!
Suppose I make a lasagna.
Eventually via leftovers it reaches the dog.
The dog is told I made lasagna and now its his.
Later in dog history this is written down as truth and passed along.
“Humble made the lasagna and gave dog dominion over it, etc.”
Thousands of years later science dogs have discovered that oven
and pan were used. Evidence exists of ingredients playing a part.
HERESY! cry the creationist dogs. Humble created the
lasagna, it was told to us and we believe the word!
Well, I did. Made that lasagna, sure enough.
I just used pan, oven & ingredients to do it.
Which dogs would I laugh at?
Scientists may have a hard time accepting this, but there may be some things we will never understand.
No doubt animals are intelligent. (All life forms on Earth are equally 'intelligent'). No doubt they imagine a nice pool, then go about cutting down natural items like trees to use to make it.
However, they do not contemplate things like 'will cutting down the trees change the environment?'
Nor do they go mix limestone and gravel, and haul it to the river to make a better dam.
Dogs can’t write.
But, where are the dogs who scientifically determined that lasagna to have assembled itself by trial and error over trillions of years, and who bristle at the very notion of Humble having had anything to do with lasagna at all?
Niether did we a few hundred years ago but the dam got built.
Qibbling over structural materials aside, a dam is a dam.
The point is man's works are his natural works, same as beavers or bees.
We just do it better and with more vision because we are further up the food (intellect) chain.
Yeah. GOD created a few, here and there.
Niether could early man.
Besides, these are allegorical dogs and they write quite well.
Dogs don't do science, either.
How did I know without looking this was posted by you:)
There are all kinds of limestone based architecture that have existed for more than a few hundred years.
Evolution: Take all the parts of a watch, place in a box, shake it up and you have a watch.
Intelligent Design: The watch parts are assembled inside the box to fit perfectly just as they are designed. A completed watch is discovered when the box is opened.
A bit simplistic but the point is there is so much in the universe and our own DNA that fits perfectly in a balance that cannot exist if one part is out of balance that random evolution is highly unlikely.
Add to the fact Christ's shroud has NEVER been duplicated by modern science, the evidence is actually quite overwhelming for God as our Intelligent designer.
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