Skip to comments.Mark Levin's problem with Glenn Beck ( Beck is correct about mccain )
Posted on 09/26/2009 3:11:14 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
By saying that Republican John McCain would have been a worse president than Barack Obama............
(I have no use for the rest of this website's drivel. I just want the substance of what Beck said)
(Excerpt) Read more at theweek.com ...
Anyways, In the *FULL* commentary, Beck has said that if McCain were president, the tea party movement wouldn't have happened or wouldn't have been as large.
McCain still would've delivered us to all these international treaties.
We'd have had cap and trade by now.
We'd have had amnesty by now.
There wouldn't be congressional republicans standing up to a president mccain like there is now with them standing up to president obama.
I have a feeling(again, defending levin) that Levin would agree with all of these sentiments.
A pregressive president like McCain would have destroyed the conservative movement for decades. Something that Obama simply cannot do.
And if you don't think McCain is a progressive? Just ask him who his hero is and he'll tell you that it's Teddy Roosevelt. A progressive. Know the heroes, know the individual.
This may contain some of what I just talked about. The context of the mccain comment.
The more I listen to Levin, the less I like him. His realm of the conservative movement is becoming irrelevant while Beck is literally knocking on Rush’s door in terms of importance. Let Levin and his boytoy Vannity repeat the same cliched phrases all day long, the rest of us have principals to uphold.
Beck is a bit dramatic. That said, he has uncovered some data that the sheepeople need see and understand in order to defend this country. Beck has tied together the players in the 0bama drama. I should think Mark and Rush would see this. I don’t hear them devoting as much time and energy to this. Rush covers the topic in the news of the day, Mark has his valuable insights too. There is more than enough dirt on this 0bama and his ilk for all the talking conservatives to discuss. They will do themselves ill to start attacking one another and that is what the RATS dream of happening.
Levin is just jealous that Beck rises in popularity while he toils away on his lame radio show parroting safe GOP talking points in that obnoxious voice of his.
McCain is a progressive and would have been bad...but nobody in their right mind could build a cult of personality around John McCain. And the press would have hated him no matter what he did.
That’s the difference, and that’s why Obama is the worst possible person in the world we could have elected.
McCain would have been a loser, a liberal who could have been dealt with, and a simple one-term president. Obama is heading for dictator and Master of the Universe (in his dreams).
Well, I’m sorry you feel that way. While I’ll agree with you most certainly that Beck is uncovering(or helping to at least) a lot of stuff that is highly inconvenient to liberals and the complicit progressive media, Levin not only has his place but he’s a great asset.
The cliched phrases do get old, I’ll agree with you on that one, Levin has indeed earned the title “the great one”.
Have you read any of his books? That’s probably Levin’s strong suit. Give ‘liberty and tyranny’ a try.
principals to uphold? are you supporting your local school staff?
Glenn Beck is also doing what our gooberment skools have long failed to do. Teach American history.
Beck is very dramatic. But then so too is Levin. IMHO. In different ways of course.
But in both cases, I like it. It’s passion for beliefs.
And yes, attacking one another is exactly what the left is looking for.
Okay. So...you think “the rest of you” are doing the heavy lifting in comparison to Mark Levin when it comes to upholding principals?
Mark is brilliant! He is fighting the good fight through his Landmark Legal Foundation. He is one of the good guys and I admire him greatly.
Glenn was handed a gift when Van Jones went after him. He put all the puzzle pieces together and continues tell all of us what it is about.
That being said, we need not to eat our own. Including our top guys.
Mark Levin's problem with Glenn BeckBeck's increasing popularity and effectiveness?
I myself toned town my criticism of McQueeg once he won the nomination. That doesn’t make him any less of an ACORN/SEIU supporting Soros puppet.
Boy, no kidding with the circular firing squad. There are a lot of FR tin-horns on here that think they have it all figured out.
And Mark always mentions Free Republic!!!
>>Would we be talking about Beck’s rise if not for Hannah Giles and James O’Keefe? <<
Yes. The Van Jones Boycott was before the ACORN scandal.
I did too. I stopped posting my list of links about McCain apart from a few exceptions. What was the point after that?
That doesnt make him any less of an ACORN/SEIU supporting Soros puppet.
The top three candidates (0bama, Hillary & McCain) were all supported by Soros. So, who really won the election?
The internecine fighting has to stop about water over the bridge. Levine was no great fan of McCain and has talked about it on many occasions. We must unite and go forward to take back this country.
I have been around FR for a long time, under two different ID's, but I have NEVER read a more ignorant comment as this. You are now #1 on the list of DumbS&^% posters....
...and a newbie making stupid comments...
Glenn is great.
I voted for McCain but he was to liberal for me. And he was a great pal with Teddy K.
realm of conservatism - irrelevant.:..What does mean?
Glenn is great.
I voted for McCain but he was to liberal for me. And he was a great pal with Teddy K.
Katie Couric must be very happy that she has been able to expose a small rift in the conservative movement. As for whether McCain would be a worse president than Obama, I would respectfully disagree with Beck. I cannot think of anyone more destructive to core, founding American principles(except possibly FDR), However, this is a moot point so it serves no purpose to debate this if we want to advance the cause of conservatism. Likewise with the discussion of whether the conservative cause would be better or worse without a less striking counterpoint to conservatism such as Obama is also moot.
What we need to do is take over the Republican party. Our movement must act as the king makers for Republican candidates. Third parties have always fared poorly in American politics. We all know the story of the Bull Moose party which gave us one of Beck’s favorite progressives: Woodrow Wilson. We all remember Ross Perot’s gift of 8 years of Clinton.
You can’t build a winning major league team without a viable farm system. An independent or third party President would not be be supported by any party. Let’s learn from the Democrats. After all the uber leftists took over the Democrat party, right?
Come to think of it, perhaps, George Soros will covertly fund a right of center third party to ensure the one party totalitarian Democrat state.
Not to worry dear hearts, Mitt Romney will ride to the rescue!
Just joking kids.
Beck is a grandstander who has successfully reported some revealing things.
He is still wrong.
While I don’t care much for McCain and only supported him because of Sarah Palin and the real fear of Obama, if he had won the presidency our Troops would not be sitting in Afghanistan wondering whether or not the CIC gives a damn about them!
In fact as predicted, Obama has done nothing but strengthen the conservative movement! Although, believing this does not change the reality McCain would have made a better POTUS.
Your point however, is a valid beyond all doubt. Please I'm begging you, my fellow conservatives, no more rino's!!!!
Sorry, but Beck is making the common mistake of confusing his own self interest with the county’s interest.
Had McCain won:
1. There would have been less of a stimulus budget buster.
2. There would be no attempt at government takeover of health insurance nor health care.
3. There would have been truther czar for Beck to go after.
4. There would be no doubt that the US would stay the course in Afghanistan.
5. There would have been no attempt at a cap and trade tax increase during a recession.
6. The public would not have been as concerned with the ACORN tapes as ACORN would have been further from influence. Still I think this one because of the child sex slavery would have caught the eye of the American public.
7. Though he voted against them, McCain would be arguing not to raise taxes during a recession by letting the Bush tax rate cuts expire.
8. The latest Supreme Court Justice would not be Sotomayor though I admit McCain might have disappointed us still.
9. The NEA would not be pressuring artist to do project supportive of the administration.
10. Eastern Europe would still be getting its missle defense.
11. Our foreign policywould be more than an apology.
BTW, the tea party protester etc would all still exist. The potential of the American public has always been there. The American public arises when needed. Had McCain been elected, the potential would have still been there. Beck might not have been as famous. You might not have met your latest boy/girl friend at a tea party protest, but that is individual interest not interst of the US.
I like Levin. Don’t dislike Beck, but don’t prefer his “schtick”. Regardless, they have more in common than they disagree on.
I think this is just a matter of The Week following thay age old strategy of setting conservatives against conservatives.
I voted for Palin ~ have no love for McCain ~ the Ancient One would have been a much better president than Obama.
We just had another had another “familycide” in my county; husband kills wife, 2 kids, dog and self. I’ll give the Dems another stripe for that.
When will the media start the count on Obamacides?
I listen to Mark and I have only heard him opine about Hannity. So, it doesn’t surprise me that he finds fault with another conservative commentator. Sometimes it seems it just may be their ego that if suffering. I heard the the Glenn Beck response and I totally agree with it. Take a backseat Mark, Glenn is driving this bus.
The left are going after Beck, not Levin. That speaks volumes about who they view as a threat.
They attack Rush too. And Palin. They could care less about McCain.
First of all, regarding Afghanistan during the campaign McCain OPPOSED sending in more troops. In this respect, he was more of a peacenik than Obama. What makes you think that McCain would now flip flop on that issue?
Second, there would have been no ACORN tapes if McCain was in office. He would (without controvery) have continued the Bush policy of giving tax money to that group. Would Republicans object or fund investigations (even private ones)? Probably not the Republicans who never cared about ACORN when Bush was handing them our money!
Levin has always been my least favorite conservative commentator. The guy is just simply not a deep thinker. His radio show consists of a bunch of ad hominem attacks and a strict ideology. He’s not a guy like Limbaugh or Savage who can win you over with solid arguments and oratorial genius. Nor a guy who digs like Beck does.
Levin frankly bores me. Our local talk radio station replaced Savage with this dope, only to hear him say “You big dope!” about a dozen times an hour. Not impressed.
Both Beck and Levin are priceless.If there was a radio station that had Beck in the morning Rush at 12 to 3 and Levin right after that well that station would be unbeatable.I sleep during hannity.These three guys are tops as far as I am concerned.
Levin should focus on the real problems-not Glenn Beck. Conservatives/libertarians should stop analyzing other conservatives/libertarians.
Makes me smile to think about it. ;-)
Excellent points, JLS. I am no great McCain fan. I voted for Fred Thompson in the primary.
I haven’t heard Rush attack Beck. Have you?
Don’t fall for this feeble leftist attempt to divide us. They’re desperate. Don’t give them an advantage.
As far as Levin is concerned, I didn’t listen to him before, but if he’s going to attack Beck. a fellow conservative and a damned effective one, I sure as hell won’t bother to listen to him now. His loss. Not mine.
They do see it. They see it on all the websites who’s work Glenn is quoting before Glenn talks about it. Beck gets his research from all those who have all ready done it for him.
1. The Generals are now asking for more troops. I think while he has a stuborn streak, he would go along with what the commanders of the troops want. I know this much, I trust McCain more to make military decisions than Obama. How about you?
2. You may have missed this but the ACORN tapes were made by private citizen journalist. So you figure that had McCain won Ms. Giles would not have gone jogging past the ACORN office or she would have beent thinking about McCain and not thought I wonder what is going on in there? These tapes embarrass Dim and GOP members of Congress into defunding them. It takes Dims to defund them whether or not McCain is president.