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Most mobile homes are in the south -- Census
CNN Money ^ | September 23, 2009 | Hibah Yousuf

Posted on 09/26/2009 4:12:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Most of the mobile homes in the U.S. are located in the south, where land is more plentiful, the weather is warmer, and rural poverty is higher.

The region is home to over 56% of the mobile housing units in the U.S., according to the U.S. Census Bureau's 2008 American Community Survey data released Monday.

Specifically, two cities outside of Jacksonville, Fla., had the country's highest concentration of mobile homes, which are generally about 12-feet wide and include a kitchen, a living and dining area, and one or two smaller bedrooms. While mobile homes make up only 6.17% of the nation's residences, they comprise 45.5% of the units in Palatka, Fla., and 41.6% of units in Lake City, Fla.

"Florida has an overheated housing market, especially with the recent bubble," said Jacob Vigdor, public policy and economics professor at Duke University. "In any area where housing is expensive, mobile homes can represent one of the few cheap options."

Open spaces But high housing costs aren't the primary driver behind the large number of mobile homes in the southern U.S. Much of it has to do with the more sprawling nature of the Sun Belt cities that weren't developed until later in the 1950s, said Vigdor.

"You don't have to go far outside of a city like Charlotte to find trailer parks or single plots of land with mobile homes. Cities that grew up in the automobile age are naturally more hospitable to mobile homes," he said. "When land is inexpensive, you can get a parcel and put a mobile home on it for cheap."

And that notion is especially attractive to the south's poor, rural population.

"Mobile homes will make up a significant part of the housing market in any place you can find significant rural poverty," Vigdor said.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: census; housing; mobilehomes; poverty; realestate; recession; rural; ruralpoor; south
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As someone who has sold manufactured homes for a few years, I agree. Many of the bigger doublewides and triplewides are MUCH nicer than "brick" homes in the $65-110,000 range. Many have stainless steel appliances, stone fireplaces, sunken tubs, home offices, gourmet kitchens w/pantries, media rooms, etc. These are features you usually don't see on site-built homes under $200,000+. There are now TWO STORY manufactured homes, and another factory-built product called a modular home is virtually indistinguishable from a conventional house and usually a better value.
1 posted on 09/26/2009 4:13:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine that.

Next they can count lakes and mountains and snails


2 posted on 09/26/2009 4:18:53 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

but... but... they’re not covered with high quality vinyl siding and they’re not in a home owner’s association! And how can you call yourself civilized if you’re not sharing at least two firewalls with some headbangers you hardly know? Oh, to think that someone would give up living next to a Starbucks and a major highway just to save a piddly $60,000!


3 posted on 09/26/2009 4:19:43 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You don't have to go far outside of a city like Charlotte to find trailer parks

You don't have to leave the city limits at all, although you're smart if you do, because their city council is composed of brain-dead dinglebobs. Go past the county line if you can, too: County Commissioners are just as bad.

4 posted on 09/26/2009 4:22:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Steam goes up, water goes down, and you shouldn't hit catz.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are tax advantages to mobile homes in Texas since they aren’t considered permanent structures.


5 posted on 09/26/2009 4:22:05 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Duh!

They’re always put near UFO landing zones and tornado routes.


6 posted on 09/26/2009 4:22:22 PM PDT by ryan71 (Smells like a revolution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the sky is blue, mostly. What’s the point of the article, to disparage the South?

The article fails to define terms. What is the “South?” What is a “mobile home?” What are the logical reasons (climate, topography, income?) Are these reasonable factors?


7 posted on 09/26/2009 4:23:59 PM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And Elvis and Michael Jackson share one.


8 posted on 09/26/2009 4:25:09 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Truth is called hate by those who hate the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mine's real nice.

on the inside

9 posted on 09/26/2009 4:25:59 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So, how is a tornado like a Tennessee divorce?


Someone's afixin' to lose a trailer!

11 posted on 09/26/2009 4:26:26 PM PDT by SmithL (The Golden State demands all of your gold)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In related news most 30 degree below temperatures that take a better sealed dwelling to be comfortable in are not in the south. What odd people those Americans are, they adopt the type of structure that is best suited for the area they live.


12 posted on 09/26/2009 4:30:49 PM PDT by JLS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Alex, I’ll take The Bleedin’ Obvious for $600


13 posted on 09/26/2009 4:34:15 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A couple of points here. One, I currently live in Alabama, and I can attest to the fact that you can't spit down here without hitting the side of a single-wide. Both of my brothers-in-law live in double-wides (and one of them owns the trailer park they're parked on). Ain't for me - I'm a log home or stone castle kind of guy. But, I agree that the industry has come a long way in the last 15 or 20 years. I've seen some top-end manufactured and modular homes at prices you couldn't touch if it was a stick-built home. In fact, my buddy up in NoVA bought a modular home - built on a basement foundation - and 1.5 wooded acres with a stream, for $125K about 20 years ago. It's now worth triple that. And when he told me it was a modular unit a few years ago, I almost crapped myself. There is no way of telling it wasn't put up one stick at a time. The woman he bought it from had invested almost the initial value of the house in upgrades, and sold it after she and her husband finally divorced. The wife and I have been planning, designing, and scheming to build a log home for several years now, and I'm honestly considering going the modular route. You dig the foundation, build out the stone walls, drop the pre-built main structure in place, and have the finishing crew come in. Let 'em do the heavy lifting at the construction yard.


14 posted on 09/26/2009 4:34:50 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Tax-chick

You don’t have to go far outside of a city like Charlotte to find trailer parks

I can point you to a few within Pittsburgh City Limits...and we ain’t exactly South


15 posted on 09/26/2009 4:35:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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16 posted on 09/26/2009 4:36:56 PM PDT by plinyelder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What a surprise.

I wonder if we spent enough money for the research we could establish that pole-and-dagga houses are mainly found in the southern African veldt.

17 posted on 09/26/2009 4:38:12 PM PDT by Clive
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

..and weather for tonight...dark


18 posted on 09/26/2009 4:38:46 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: plinyelder
WOO HOO condos
19 posted on 09/26/2009 4:39:45 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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20 posted on 09/26/2009 4:40:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: Dumpster Baby

ROFLMAO! Stolen.


21 posted on 09/26/2009 4:41:23 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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To: fwdude

Disparage? I thought this was an ad to move south.


22 posted on 09/26/2009 4:42:17 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I expect you’ll find some trailers anywhere they’re not zoned against, and where land prices haven’t been driven up by building restrictions.

You’d want lots of insulation in Pittsburg, though!


23 posted on 09/26/2009 4:43:02 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Steam goes up, water goes down, and you shouldn't hit catz.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do we actually have to pay to discover these AMAZING census facts?

Bulletin! Snow mostly falls in Winter!


24 posted on 09/26/2009 4:43:38 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

bttt


25 posted on 09/26/2009 4:44:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: GeronL

Then why was Green Tree Financial based out of Minnesota? ; )


26 posted on 09/26/2009 4:46:35 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GeronL

Then why was Green Tree Financial based out of Minnesota? ; )


27 posted on 09/26/2009 4:46:45 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve seen some real nice “mobile homes” So what’s the big deal? A mobile home is not an indicator of poverty. I’ll bet most of these folks actually WORK for a living and pay TAXES. I wonder what percentage of “mobile home” dwellers voted for the current president whose name and racial preference escape my mind. Bottom line...people gotta live somewhere. How about they live where they want, in what they want, in the manner they want. Is this not a free land?


28 posted on 09/26/2009 4:47:49 PM PDT by Larry R. Johnson (Don't tread on me!)
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To: plinyelder

29 posted on 09/26/2009 4:55:30 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: JLS

Well, duh!!! Many states in the North are just too cold for mobile homes. A cold climate ages a mobile home faster than a warm climate does. Which group of geniuses did this study?


30 posted on 09/26/2009 4:55:49 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Larry R. Johnson

Agreed. Nothing wrong with living within your means. It is widely recommended on this site. I own one, and I LOVE it. Way more house than I could have afforded without leveraging myself to the gills.....


31 posted on 09/26/2009 4:58:11 PM PDT by wombtotomb (Equal opportunity does not mean equal OUTCOME!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They do better in the South’s weather, too, because they are not always insulated so well.


32 posted on 09/26/2009 4:58:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SeeSharp
There are tax advantages to mobile homes in Texas since they aren’t considered permanent structures.

Which accounts for the fact that so many "winter Texans" from other states have mobile homes in South Texas.

33 posted on 09/26/2009 5:00:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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A mobile home is not an indicator of poverty.

True. Lots of retirees live in mobile home parks as an alternative to garden apartments that have stairs and less square footage to boot.

The whole "trailer trash" reputation comes from the fact that, in larger metropolitan areas, they are often the cheapest form of housing other than public housing. There were also a series of pulp novels in the 1950s that further spread the reputation of mobile homes as filled with promiscuity and crime.

34 posted on 09/26/2009 5:03:54 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My family lived in one as a kid while my parents built a house next to it...to be honest, i missed the coziness of it once we moved into the new house...not a great thing to live in when a hurricane is coming though ;)


35 posted on 09/26/2009 5:06:37 PM PDT by chasio649 ( Palin 2012...'nuff said!)
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"Is this not a free land?"

Was until about 8 or 9 months ago. As I said, I sold "mobile homes" about 10 years ago, and many of them were much nicer than a site-built home costing twice or three times as much. We had one model specifically configured for a home theatre room, another with a NASCAR theme (the company had a car back then) and even a very nice triple-wide that'd make almost any family happy.

36 posted on 09/26/2009 5:08:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: Viking2002

That’s okay Viking, the article is to slam us in the South, no biggie. It’s been going on for a long time. I remember my dear Mississippi born and bred Mom speaking in disgust about Hollywood’s phony Southern accents in movies, we’re talking those from the 20s and 30s on.

“Trailers” (single, double-wide and manufactured homes) are what some folks can afford and I happen to know a lot of those folks, wouldn’t take for their LOYAL friendship; they can set trotlines, hunt, trap, make something out of nothing, self-reliant. Ready and willing to help at the drop of a hat—and they know their neighbors too.


37 posted on 09/26/2009 5:08:58 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: SeeSharp

Same in California if they are built in 1980 or prior.


38 posted on 09/26/2009 5:09:40 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“In any area where housing is expensive, mobile homes can represent one of the few cheap options.”

“Mobile homes will make up a significant part of the housing market in any place you can find significant rural poverty,” —Jacob Vigdor, public policy and economics professor at Duke University.

~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~

Quick, somebody needs to nominate Professor Vigdor for the Nobel prize for the Bleeding Obvious.

39 posted on 09/26/2009 5:13:27 PM PDT by Sparko ("Barack Hussein Obama He said Red, Yellow, Black or White All are equal in His sight. Mmm, mmm, mmm")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's actually pretty cool. Where is that?
40 posted on 09/26/2009 5:26:45 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Clemenza

After looking at my 401k recently, I will either retire overseas (Philippines) or buy a nice 5th wheel or Travel Trailer and live in a nice RV Park.

There are parts of the country where it can be done very inexpensively and has a moderate climate.


41 posted on 09/26/2009 5:29:42 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Fact: When speaking, BHO refers to himself on an average of every 13 seconds.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Yep. Arizona in the winter, Maine (or Montana) in the summer.


42 posted on 09/26/2009 5:31:58 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
which are generally about 12-feet wide and include a kitchen, a living and dining area, and one or two smaller bedrooms.

The writer obviously hasn't seen a double or triple wide. Although I'd personally go for a Jim Walter instead.

43 posted on 09/26/2009 5:33:43 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: brushcop

And don’t forget the freedom factor alot of pre-fabs owners are looking for. Why buy a 30 year old fixer-upper in the city when you can have 2009 technology and 2 acres for half the price. Not to mention the fact that with the extra breathing room a man can convene with nature when called and the neighbors are none the wiser. The tomato plants may not survive that extra “watering” but who cares when you can grow more than you can eat anyways?

P.S. always wash the tomatoes.


44 posted on 09/26/2009 5:36:10 PM PDT by SteelTrap
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To: Larry R. Johnson

I agree with your post. The article bothered me because it seemed to disparage people who choose to live in mobile homes inferring that they are poverty stricken, rural Southerners, hence less intelligent than the editors at CNN. Mobile homes can be very charming as can any living quarters if they are clean and attractively decorated. What a snobbish assertion CNN Money is making when it looks down its liberal nose at hardworking people and their homes.


45 posted on 09/26/2009 5:37:02 PM PDT by sueuprising
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CNN:

This just in...

Most igloos are in Northern climates where air conditioning sales remain near all-times lows!


46 posted on 09/26/2009 5:45:58 PM PDT by riskybiz (Sarah Palin - 2012 - Born in the U.S.A. !)
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To: abclily

Well duh, most tornadoes are in the South!


47 posted on 09/26/2009 5:51:17 PM PDT by T Minus Four
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To: Ken H

It’s actually an outdoor theatre set in Sweden or some such. I could see building something like that for college kids or similar.


48 posted on 09/26/2009 5:57:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Have you seen this site?

http://www.LivingInThePhilippines.com


49 posted on 09/26/2009 5:58:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin if she runs; What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wannabe Jihadi-boy lived in one of these funky domes.

Star-Telegram photos/Ron T. Ennis Hosam Maher Husein Smadi, 19, had lived in this small domed rental unit in the Ellis County town of Italy since April 2008. Star-Telegram photos/Ron T. Ennis

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1637304.html

50 posted on 09/26/2009 5:59:16 PM PDT by Dysart
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