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Why does Obama keep snubbing the British?
Wahington Examiner ^ | 9/27/09 | Byron York

Posted on 09/27/2009 12:58:19 PM PDT by Nachum

At the G20 summit in Pittsburgh, and at the UN Security Council meeting before that, Barack Obama continued his administration's new policy toward Great Britain: declare that the "special relationship" between the U.S. and the U.K. is as strong as ever, and then act as if there is no such relationship at all.

The British papers were filled with the news that the president would not grant Prime Minister Gordon Brown a one-on-one meeting. "Mr. Obama had refused five separate requests from the prime minister for a private meeting during his U.S. trip for the UN summit in New York," reported the Daily Mail.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: arrogance; bho44; bhouk; byronyork; does; europe; keep; obama; snub; why

1 posted on 09/27/2009 12:58:19 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Mao Mao.


2 posted on 09/27/2009 12:59:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Nachum

Cuz he hates them?


3 posted on 09/27/2009 12:59:46 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: bvw

Mau Mau


4 posted on 09/27/2009 12:59:48 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Oh? What’s the original language?


5 posted on 09/27/2009 1:00:48 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Nachum

I think this goes back when to Kenya was enemies with the crown.


6 posted on 09/27/2009 1:00:55 PM PDT by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messia. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: bvw
Mao Mao.

Good play on words.On *both* counts.

7 posted on 09/27/2009 1:01:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: agere_contra

Not likely ~ much more likely is that he already knows about all the gays in the foreign office and he’s just not up to servicing all of them ~ so he stays away.


8 posted on 09/27/2009 1:01:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Nachum

1-They are American Allies, yuck
2-They are mostly white Christians
3-Churchill and Thatcher


9 posted on 09/27/2009 1:02:49 PM PDT by omega4179 (We must be the change.)
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To: omega4179

Yeah I forgot they used to colonize Africa.


10 posted on 09/27/2009 1:03:18 PM PDT by omega4179 (We must be the change.)
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To: Nachum

He is a Kenyan and he, like most Kenyans, blame the British for their plight.


11 posted on 09/27/2009 1:03:25 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: agere_contra; Nachum
http://www.twodoctors.org/2009/02/obama-churchill-the-mau-mau.html
Much later, as Prime Minister for the second time, he ordered the repression of the 1952 Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya. The ensuing torture caught up many uninvolved Kenyans, and just like many modern "anti-terror" campaigns, radicalised them and their friends and family too. One earlier victim of this approach was Hussein Onyango Obama, the President's grandfather. No wonder the bust's going back

12 posted on 09/27/2009 1:03:35 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Nachum

Because he does not share any values in common with us.


13 posted on 09/27/2009 1:04:35 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Nachum

The Brits wouldn’t ban Rush, Beck, or Hannity, only Savage. 0be’s pissed.


14 posted on 09/27/2009 1:04:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: BunnySlippers

Because the “were “ a white , western society.
They are now an Islamic country so I don’t see his problem with them.


15 posted on 09/27/2009 1:08:39 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Nachum

Oba-Mao never forgave the Brits for Colonial Africa. It’s a thing that Black Nationalist, like Rev Wright, carry aropund in their voodoo doll case and grab and shake at you every so often.

When you sit there for 20 years listening to this Black Nationalist hate spewed by Wright, did you actually expect it would have no effect on Oba-Mao?


16 posted on 09/27/2009 1:08:52 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Obama's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: agere_contra

Wikipedia today says “The name Mau Mau for the rebel movement was not coined by the movement itself- they called themselves Muingi (”The Movement”), Muigwithania (”The Understanding”), Muma wa Uiguano (”The Oath of Unity”) or simply “The KCA”, after the Kikuyu Central Association that created the impetus for the insurgency. Veterans of the independence movement referred to themselves as the “Land and Freedom Army” in English.” It also gives an Etymology section, which gives one to understand no one really knows where “mao mao” or “mau mau” comes from. I’ve always thought it was from the chinese — mao mao fu fu. “Horse horse, tiger tiger”


17 posted on 09/27/2009 1:10:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Nachum
>"Why does Obama keep snubbing the British?"

Payback for civilizing them? His baby daddy wuz a British Subject. (Disqualifying his Natural Born Citizen status)

If he's that unhappy about it he should just go back and live in the Bush.

18 posted on 09/27/2009 1:15:42 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Ifanationexpects tobe ignorantandfree,inastateofcivilization,itexpects whatneverwas andnever will be)
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To: Nachum

It’s easy to see why Hussein didn’t want that bust of Churchill in the Oval Office.Its presence made him feel...and seem...puny by comparison.


19 posted on 09/27/2009 1:17:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Christian+Veteran=Terrorist)
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To: Nachum

Me thinks it goes alllll the way back to his “Roots” (the mini-series)


20 posted on 09/27/2009 1:18:01 PM PDT by NordP (Democrats: Break the Law (like Bill) ... Not The Rules (like Joe) !!!)
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To: Nachum
Because he is niggardly with respect for anyone else who calls themselves a leader.

It cuts into his supreme being status.

21 posted on 09/27/2009 1:24:23 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: bvw; agere_contra

Oxford English Dictionary

Mau Mau, n. and adj.

Brit. /{sm}ma{shtu} ma{shtu}/, U.S. /{sm}ma{shtu} {smm}ma{shtu}/ Plural unchanged, -s. Forms: also with lower-case initial in sense A. 2. [Origin uncertain; apparently a name attributed by the public rather than owned by the society. Perhaps < Kikuyu mau-mau, ideophone used to describe voracious devouring; or < Kikuyu uma uma ‘scram! scram!’, with syllable reversal characteristic of children’s code; or alteration of Kikuyu (kiama kia) muma ‘(council of the) oath’, a self-appellation of the society; or a contemptuous distortion of the initials of the Kenya African Union, the political voice of African resistance to colonial rule. In sense A. 2 < MAU-MAU v.]

A. n.

1. More fully Mau Mau Association. An African secret society, originating among the Kikuyu and active in the 1950s, which favoured the use of armed resistance to expel European settlers and end British rule in Kenya; a member of this society. Now hist.
1950 E. Afr. Standard (Nairobi) 16 June A/5 We have arrived at a state of dissatisfaction and insecurity, bitterness and delusion which has given rise to the formation of such societies as the ‘Dini ya Mswambwa’ and the ‘Mau Mau Association’. 1953 Newsweek 6 Apr. 38/3 As the villagers ran from their blazing homes, waiting Mau Maus struck them down with pangas (long knives) and hatchets. 1955 Times 13 July 6/5 Further evidence of the infiltration of Mau Mau into tribes other than the Kikuyu, Embu, and Meru was revealed here to-day. 1971 Sunday Nation (Nairobi) 11 Apr. 12/5 Events beyond human control{em}famine, Mau Mau, the changing environment. 1990 C. ALLEN Savage Wars of Peace (1991) 135 A sweep was going on at the Tana River and on one flank of the sweep there was a large gang of Mau Mau.


22 posted on 09/27/2009 1:25:10 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: Nachum

The fact is part of Obama’s family is from Kenya, some still live there. Kenya was once a part of the British Empire, and the Brits rule there, as elsewhere around the world at the time, was brutal, vicious and cruel. I’ve always thought that Obama’s antipathy to London was because of this. Maybe someone in his direct family was treated very badly by the Brits.


23 posted on 09/27/2009 1:25:41 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Nachum

Senior aides to Barack Obama accompanied four Uighur prisoners as they were flown from Guantanamo Bay to the British colony of Bermuda, without the United Kingdom (UK) being informed, it was revealed yesterday, angering the UK.

In an escalating diplomatic row over the transfer of the former terrorist suspects, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton discussed the transfer with British Foreign Secretary David Miliband in what was said to be an uneasy conversation. Privately Whitehall officials accused America of treating Britain, with whom it is supposed to have a “special relationship,” with barely disguised contempt.

Remember, in February, in one of his first exchanges with the UK, Obama sent a bust of Winston Churchill back to Britain. Then, in March, Prime Minister Gordon Brown faced humiliation after he was snubbed by Obama. During Brown’s visit, the Prime Minister brought several meaningful and valued items to give to Obama. What he got in return was 25 CD’s of classic movies, that were incompatible with the UK format. Then, in April, Obama gifted Queen Elizabeth II with an iPod, a gift that was criticized by etiquette experts.

In June, Queen Elizabeth — the only living head of state that participated in WW II — was snubbed and not invited to the D-Day ceremonies, described as a “Franco-American” event.

In September, it emerged that Barack Obama had turned down no fewer than five requests from Downing Street to hold a bilateral meeting between Obama and Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, at the United Nations in New York or at the G20 summit starting in Pittsburgh on September, 24th.

Obama has not missed a single opportunity to insult the Brits, one of our greatest allies.

Accidents? I hardly think so. The US State Department, Office of the Chief of Protocol, under the direction of Acting Chief of Protocol Laura B. Wills, is responsible for avoiding these gaffes. Career bureaucrats, working out of the White House are in place to ensure insults such as these, don’t occur. So, they must be purposeful — but why?

It’s my opinion that Obama’s divided loyalties are at the bottom of his treatment of the UK and he harbors a deep and abiding hostility towards the Brits because of the treatment he believes his grandfather and father received during British colonial rule.

During Obama’s first visit to Kenya in 1988, his grandmother Sarah told him about the resentment against white colonial rule in Kenya, with rallies and mounting violence that would explode into full-scale rebellion in 1952. “Most of this activity centered on Kikuyuland,” she told him. “But the Luo, too, were oppressed. Men in our area began to join the Kikuyu”

“Granny Sarah” told Obama that Hussein Onyango Obama, Obama’s paternal grandfather, became involved in the Kenyan independence movement while working as a cook for a British army officer after World War II. He was arrested in 1949 and jailed for two years in a high-security prison where, according to his family, he was subjected to horrific violence to extract information about the growing insurgency. Sarah, said that her husband had supplied information to the insurgents. “His job as cook to a British army officer made him a useful informer for the secret oathing movement which would later form the Mau Mau rebellion,” she said. “At the time the insurgents were secretly taking oaths which included promises to kill white settlers and colonialists,” Mrs. Onyango said.

“To arrest a Luo, WW II veteran, who was a senior figure in the community, is pretty serious. They must have had some damn good evidence,” said Professor David Anderson, director of the African Studies Centre at the University of Oxford, and an authority on the Mau Mau rebellion.

Obama refers briefly to his grandfather’s imprisonment in his best-selling memoir, “Dreams...,” but states that his grandfather was held only for “more than six months.” Obama described his grandfather’s physical state: “When he returned to Alego he was very thin and dirty. He had difficulty walking, and his head was full of lice.” For some time, he was too traumatized to speak about his experiences.

Barack Obama Sr., Onyango’s son and Obama’s father, seems to have inherited his father’s attitudes towards the colonial power. He was also arrested, for attending a meeting in Nairobi of the Kenya African National Union (KANU), the organization spearheading the independence movement. Sarah told Obama that his father, unlike her husband, had been held only for a short time in the white man’s prison: “Because he was not a leader in KANU, Barack [Sr.] was released after a few days.”

Onyango may have been a victim of the fight for Kenyan independence, but his son became a direct beneficiary of that movement. In 1959, Barack Obama Sr. was sent, on a scholarship, to the University of Hawaii. Obama Sr. was selected by a former Kenyan cabinet minister, the late Tom Mboya, who was earmarked as the successor to Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya’s first prime minister and leader of the terrorist Mau Mau.

It is clear that the Obama’s were close to the leadership of the independence movement. It is also clear that Obama’s “divided loyalty” — his anger at the white British colonists’ treatment of his grandfather and father — is behind all of these insults to America’s greatest ally.

“Divided loyalties” was an issue during the Constitutional Convention because of the Founders fear of foreign influence and the possibility of incidents, such as the ones mentioned above.

In fact, Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts wanted to take the issue so far as to stop foreigners from becoming citizens at all, claiming that the naturalized citizens would always have divided loyalties both to their home land and to America. John Jay, Superintendent of Foreign Affairs (the predecessor of today’s office of Secretary of State), claimed that it would be “wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

Pierce Butler, an Irish-born delegate from South Carolina, developed an intense plan that would defeat all objections arising against earlier proposals for electing the president. However, given the doubts concerning divided loyalties that Elbridge Gerry, John Jay, and others expressed, Butler’s proposal also included what became Article II, Section I of the Constitution.

It is evident that the Founders had a clear reason to fear conspiracy and divided loyalties, and it is evident that Obama, a native-born Kenyan, has allowed his divided loyalties influence his judgment and behavior in regards to the UK.

This is personal and purposeful.

And don’t even get me started on Obama’s divided loyalties and Islam.

http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/IssueDividedLoyalties.htm


24 posted on 09/27/2009 1:26:48 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Nachum

He seems to be bent on whizzing on every country with whom the US has had good relations. He’s all about sucking up to our enemies and messing things up with our friends.


25 posted on 09/27/2009 1:33:18 PM PDT by Mr Inviso (ACORN=Arrogant Condescending Obama Ruining Nation)
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To: Nachum

I think it’s that Liberal fashion of blaming the Anglo-Saxon “race” for everything that goes wrong and romanticizing third-worlders.


26 posted on 09/27/2009 1:55:31 PM PDT by RoadTest ( Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols - Psalm 97:12a)
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To: Nachum

Because they are a bunch of WASPs.


27 posted on 09/27/2009 2:00:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Nachum

It’s simple. He’s snubbing them because he’s an idiot. As are the bulk of his advisors and most of the Democrats in Congress.


28 posted on 09/27/2009 2:04:21 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Nachum

In his book he said the British tortured his Kenyan grandfather.


29 posted on 09/27/2009 2:07:12 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Nachum

You can take the mau-mau out of Kenya, put him in a suit and install him in the White House, but he’s still a mau mau


30 posted on 09/27/2009 2:13:37 PM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: omega4179
1-They are American Allies, yuck 2-They are mostly white Christians 3-Churchill and Thatcher

I agree with you assessment; however, No. 2 may actually be the number one reason.

31 posted on 09/27/2009 2:17:02 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Nachum

The Brits are racists. Isn’t that the libs excuse for everything?


32 posted on 09/27/2009 2:20:36 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Tarpon
One of the lasting relationships uniting those who actually participate in the WOT is that of the US and Great Britain.

If your goal is to destroy the US, marginalize it and all it stands for then one of the moves you make is to destroy our relationship with the Brits.

Obama wreaks of everything and anything that is good for the US from prayer to flying flags to common gratitude for the Britts joining us in the WOT.

He is not to be trusted.

33 posted on 09/27/2009 2:25:18 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Nachum

The Kenyan’s foreign policy is to stab our former allies in the back and hug the Axis of Evil.

When can we say that he ruined America’s reputation?


34 posted on 09/27/2009 2:29:16 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: Beckwith

On the money, Beckwith!


35 posted on 09/27/2009 2:35:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Snurple

Was his grandfather really tortured, or was that just something Bill Ayers snuck into the book?


36 posted on 09/27/2009 2:43:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Nachum

“Why does Obama keep snubbing the British?”

...because he can.


37 posted on 09/27/2009 3:20:33 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Nachum

Barak Hussein Obamah has CHANGED The Axis of Evil INTO The Axis of Comrades!


38 posted on 09/27/2009 3:21:24 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Nachum

Because they’re white.


39 posted on 09/27/2009 3:45:22 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Beckwith

Prime Minister Gordon Brown faced humiliation after he was snubbed repeatedly by Obama at the recent UN event.

Apparently Gordeon Brown ran thru back halls and UN kitchens trying to find Obama for a face to face.

Forgot where I read this and no link.

Sounds about right though.


40 posted on 09/27/2009 3:47:20 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: agere_contra

Yup.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11504


41 posted on 09/27/2009 3:47:23 PM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Nachum

Obama is snubbing the British press because they are exposing him. Our state run media won’t touch it.


42 posted on 09/27/2009 3:53:08 PM PDT by Overtaxed Patriot (Liberals are terrible at math.)
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To: Nachum

“Why does Obama keep snubbing the British?”

Because they’re pro-American; the same reason he despises Isralis, Poles, Czechs...


43 posted on 09/27/2009 3:54:49 PM PDT by Spok
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To: Nachum
Do they (the Brits) know the answers to 0bama's secrets?
44 posted on 09/27/2009 4:17:13 PM PDT by Semper Mark (Third World trickle up poverty will result in cascading Third World tyranny.)
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To: Nachum

Because he was born a British subject and he’s still a British subject under the law, improbably and unconstitutionally acting as President of the United States of America.

Appearances of allegiance would be problematic, so he’s at pains to distance himself, in as highly public a manner as possible.

And then, there’s that whole, familial Mau Mau kerfluffle to consider, too.


45 posted on 09/27/2009 4:22:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Nachum

They colonized Africa - and brought western civilization to the continent as well., Some things you cannot forgive or forget.


46 posted on 09/27/2009 4:30:41 PM PDT by cricket ('Don't bow for me Obama - America's 'sorry' President)
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To: Nachum

Why?
He’s a bigot.


47 posted on 09/27/2009 4:34:23 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Verginius Rufus

Probably something Ayres made up when he wrote the book.


48 posted on 09/27/2009 5:41:29 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Nachum; bvw
I have had a most pleasant afternoon with spouse in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I should leave well alone, but perhaps there is an explanation. If my reasoning is accurate then the President should realize that Britain is different than it was 55 years ago. He should take into consideration that what was done in Kenya was done by a different generation.

I was working in England and heard of the terrible massacres by the Mau Mau. These were the insurgents who wanted a free country from British colonial rule. A family was cut to pieces and we were told of the bloody clothes with the brand "St Michaels" laying around.

True but..... If the figures are correct, 32 white civilians were slaughtered. The losses of the tribesmen and Mau Mau were 10,500. The British white troops lost 63 men. Their African military allies lost about 800 men.

Though my own countrymen, I, having only just got the figures from Wikipedia, know it was very one sided. It is claimed Kenyan civilians numbered 20,000 dead through misadventure.

If this is what irks the President, he should be man enough to deal with an entirely different generation. He could turn his angst to the modern day atrocities of the now "free" Africans.

49 posted on 09/27/2009 6:25:14 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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