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Obama Wants More School, Less Vacation
NBC Miami ^ | Sun, Sep 27, 2009 | Natalie Rix

Posted on 09/27/2009 2:42:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway

President Obama wants kids to spend more time in school. Students in the U.S. need more class time to remain competitive with students around the world, the President said. Obama advocates schools adding time to classes, extending hours into evenings and weekends, and shortening summer vacation.

"Now, I know longer school days and school years are not wildly popular ideas, not with Malia and Sasha, not in my family, probably not in yours. But the challenges of a new century demand more time in the classroom," Obama said.

Some schools that extended their hours have seen positive results. Early results from Massachusetts' expanded learning time initiative, which adds extra time to the school year, show that some students involved in the program do better on state tests than those at regular public schools.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: arth; bho44; bhoeducation; fubo; indoctrination; obama; schools; summer; vacation
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A good way to lower support among young people.
1 posted on 09/27/2009 2:42:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Obama takes our summer away,
Mmmmm... mmmmm... mmmm....


2 posted on 09/27/2009 2:44:09 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: nickcarraway
Seems to me the longer kids stay in school the stupider they get.

Waaaaaaaaait a minute.....

3 posted on 09/27/2009 2:44:16 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: nickcarraway

More time for indoctrination doesn’t equal better education.


4 posted on 09/27/2009 2:45:16 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: All

Don’t foget to vote on AOL poll on this very same issue:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2349661/posts


5 posted on 09/27/2009 2:45:22 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Texas Eagle

Full time school means full time indoctrination.


6 posted on 09/27/2009 2:45:37 PM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yup, more time away from parents and more time with the state. To all with two incomes...you CAN live on one income and be with your children. It can be done, and the rewards are infinite.


7 posted on 09/27/2009 2:46:40 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: nickcarraway
Actually better teaching and less indoctrination would go a long ways in catching up with the rest of the world.
8 posted on 09/27/2009 2:46:42 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: nickcarraway

Everyone whose livelihood depends on the participation of children during summer vacation (for example, camps, summer school, tourist attractions) just had a heart attack...


9 posted on 09/27/2009 2:46:51 PM PDT by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: nickcarraway

Did he clear this with the NEA first?


10 posted on 09/27/2009 2:46:56 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: airborne

More teachers, more UNION members.


11 posted on 09/27/2009 2:47:44 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (I pray for our military, our Republic, Bibi and Israel.)
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Don’t waste kid’s time on “Barack Hussein Obama, mmmm, mmmm, mmmm”, and the 5 days/week will be more than enough.


12 posted on 09/27/2009 2:47:54 PM PDT by Behemoth the Cat
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To: Blue Turtle

Or at a very minimum, see if you can afford a private Christian school!


13 posted on 09/27/2009 2:49:03 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: nickcarraway

Ha Ha! The kids will love that. In the past a few kids I know in HS have summer jobs to build funds to start a life after school or college. But this last summer they have not been able to find work thanks to King Obama. Last I heard that here in this State youth unemployment is around 50%.


14 posted on 09/27/2009 2:49:14 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

“Do as I say, not as I do”.


15 posted on 09/27/2009 2:50:18 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I agree with him on this issue. Kids don't need 3 months off in the summer. Not many kids are out plowing the back forty these days.
16 posted on 09/27/2009 2:50:27 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: nickcarraway

This coming from Mr Vacation himself.


17 posted on 09/27/2009 2:50:36 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: nickcarraway

I’m sure the rank and file of the NEA won’t mind. (snicker)


18 posted on 09/27/2009 2:50:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: nickcarraway

he wants them to have less free time.....he wants to know where they are....he wants to be able to control them.


19 posted on 09/27/2009 2:50:42 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrat Party: a criminal enterprise)
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To: mimaw

They should be, the tiny freeloaders.


20 posted on 09/27/2009 2:51:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

This should go a long way to helping the economy by cutting into summer vacations and tourism. I know that a lot of “teachers” want more opportunities to “hit” on the kids but this is getting ridiculous.


21 posted on 09/27/2009 2:52:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: nickcarraway

What would a good fascist do?


22 posted on 09/27/2009 2:52:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: nickcarraway
Obama advocates schools adding time to classes, extending hours into evenings and weekends, and shortening summer vacation.

What a stupid ass.

At this pace, even the NEA types are going to eventually hate him.

He must have been caught in an unscripted moment. There's no way that Teleprompter would have told him to say something this stupid.

23 posted on 09/27/2009 2:52:53 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: umgud

Mmmm! Mmmm! Mmmm!


24 posted on 09/27/2009 2:52:54 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: nickcarraway
Oh Yeah? I want:

More Freedom of Speech, Less Obama
More Economic Freedom, Less Obama
More Patriotism, Less Obama
More Victories in the WoT, Less Obama
More Health Choices, Less Obama
More Transparency, Less Obama
More Education Quality, Less Obama

and finally...more American Superiority, FAR LESS OBAMA.

25 posted on 09/27/2009 2:53:38 PM PDT by kromike
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To: BulletBobCo
He's been in the White Hut, what?
8 months?
And has had about 3 months of vacation time.
26 posted on 09/27/2009 2:55:15 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: nickcarraway

Obama doesn’t give a sh*t about children being educated (like they are getting educated at most government schools, anyway).

Longer school hours are a ruse for a taxpayer-paid child care and babysitting service. (Oh, and more Obama sing-a-longs).


27 posted on 09/27/2009 2:57:15 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: SIDENET
At this pace, even the NEA types are going to eventually hate him.

No. It will result in more FTEs to the school systems increasing their power. It will also result in increased taxes at the local and state levels for education. It will not improve results because the same people will be involved in the same system turning out the same results. Finally, it will usurp local authorities and school boards by injecting more federal government and unions in the schools.

Bad idea all the way around. The problems with the schools are not related to quantity they are related to quality.

28 posted on 09/27/2009 2:57:37 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: mimaw

I couldn’t disagree more. And if you agree with Obama, perhaps DU would be a better fit.


29 posted on 09/27/2009 2:58:22 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: johniegrad
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking.

If Oslimebag is involved, it's gonna be a way to grow unions and government.

30 posted on 09/27/2009 3:01:22 PM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: nickcarraway
Someone, somewhere, might possibly be happy.

Happy people never want Socialism.

31 posted on 09/27/2009 3:02:20 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Roark, Architect.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yet one more reason my the wife and I will not have kids.


32 posted on 09/27/2009 3:03:09 PM PDT by CMS ( obama pres & dem majority----RIP United States of America 1776-2008 It was great while it lasted.)
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To: nickcarraway

Under what constitutional authority does DC control school systems?

That is a State Issue. The entire Education Department in DC should be abolished.

Why do home school children perform so much better academically? Answer: Lack of Brainwashing with lies.

It is the time to Downsize DC.


33 posted on 09/27/2009 3:04:11 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. -Sam Houston)
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To: mimaw

Did you plow the back forty? Did you love the break? I will go up against anyone in the workplace that supports that bullshit. Summer is a time for family to relax.


34 posted on 09/27/2009 3:04:26 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: nickcarraway
Our "kids" don't "need more time at school to be competitive."

What they "need" is a genuine education, professionally instructed by educated, dedicated instructors --- NOT substandard, illiterate, union lackeys who spend time indoctrinating their pawns, expecting many to fail instead of succeed.

Worst of all, more than a few of those who are charged with fulfilling their role of actually educating their charges are sex-addicted drug addicts who are preying on these innocents left in their charge.

35 posted on 09/27/2009 3:05:02 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: airborne
Full time school means full time indoctrination.

And "free" babysitting for the Obama communities.

36 posted on 09/27/2009 3:05:14 PM PDT by RJL
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To: nickcarraway

So what will private schools do? Don’t think they’ll go along with this crap. I’m with those who think kids and families need a break.


37 posted on 09/27/2009 3:10:01 PM PDT by madison10
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To: mimaw

Kids don’t have 3 months off in the summer, more like 2 months.

For my family, we spend 1 week at my parents house visiting them (only time we see them all year). We go on a family vacation for a week. My kids either go to Vacation Bible School or help at one (depending on their age).

Then, my kids have a month long drama camp that they attend for 3 hours a day.

We all love summer. There’s no homework. My kids love to read, and they actually have time to read. We have a pool, so we go swimming a lot, and we have lots of bar-b-ques.

One of my daughters is special needs, and she just needs down time to decompress from school. She attends speech therapy more in the summer because that is her biggest issue, and she doesn’t have time to go much during the school year.

I wish the kids had more time in the summer. I wish they had from Memorial Day to Labor Day off. I love being with my kids.


38 posted on 09/27/2009 3:10:14 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: nickcarraway

More time with socialist teachers an less with patriotic parents maybe ?


39 posted on 09/27/2009 3:11:57 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Sorry we need the long vacation to deprogram the little rascals.


40 posted on 09/27/2009 3:12:15 PM PDT by vicar7
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To: SIDENET
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking.

Well, I could see why. At face value, it sounds like it could help education until you consider the ramifications. I just try to remember that more federal government is not a good idea.

41 posted on 09/27/2009 3:13:07 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Libertarian444
Longer school hours are a ruse for a taxpayer-paid child care and babysitting service.

Exactly. That, and more money for the education establishment and it's political activities.

42 posted on 09/27/2009 3:14:43 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: eyedigress

Since most parents work even in the summer the children are often in the care of others. I’m not saying attend school all summer I’m saying cut it to maybe 6 weeks. When our younger children return to school after a 3 month summer vacation a lot of time is spent reviewing material.


43 posted on 09/27/2009 3:14:44 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: nickcarraway

Let’s see.
(School is in session more + Mommy and Daddy get to work longer and more days + less family time) = MORE income tax for Uncle Obama

I am beginning to hate his math more and more...

I see more and more people starting to homeschool...


44 posted on 09/27/2009 3:15:20 PM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (When do replace an empty suit...November 6, 2012)
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To: nickcarraway

You could put the average little heathen in school for 15 years and it wouldn’t make much difference. We been throwing money at education for 50 years for squat. Maybe the new America, after the depression hits, will lower the expense and up the result.

parsy, who sees no reason for trying to teach algebra to your average numbskull kid


45 posted on 09/27/2009 3:15:37 PM PDT by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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I bet he’d like the Chinese system — 6am to 7:30 pm. Kids never see their parents. Great good way to break up the family.


46 posted on 09/27/2009 3:17:25 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: mimaw
When our younger children return to school after a 3 month summer vacation a lot of time is spent reviewing material.

You aren't getting it. This proposal has nothing to do with providing your children with a better education.

47 posted on 09/27/2009 3:18:10 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: guitarplayer1953

He said nothing about better teaching nor about less indoctrination, tho. It’s just more of ‘OUR’ time with ‘YOUR’ kids.

So glad we homeschooled.


48 posted on 09/27/2009 3:18:46 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: vicar7
Sorry we need the long vacation to deprogram the little rascals.

I agree. And they need some experience other than that found inside institutional walls.

49 posted on 09/27/2009 3:19:55 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: nickcarraway

Is this for his “re-education” manifesto?


50 posted on 09/27/2009 3:20:23 PM PDT by machogirl
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