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1 posted on 09/27/2009 3:35:41 PM PDT by Nachum
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Clinton sure didn’t want to have to confront middle eastern terrorism, did he?


2 posted on 09/27/2009 3:38:08 PM PDT by silverleaf (If we are astroturf, why are the democrats trying to mow us?)
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Look up the story of the BATF informant LINDA HOWE —will turn your hair white. She was telling them step by step what they would do, and it STILL got blown up, just amazing.

Other:

1. Guy who delivered Chinese food to McVeigh’s room as he drove cross-country SAW a middle-eastern dude in there with him.

2. McVeigh repeatedly used a calling card to phone an Abu Sayef-controlled part of the southern Phillipines. Tim was also, errr, pretty friendly with the Phillipina wife of Nichols.

3. Lots of other stuff.


3 posted on 09/27/2009 3:42:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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I’ve read some conspiracy-theorists suggesting that McVeigh was a patsy/fall-guy and who suggested he was framed.

From the article: An FOIA request by Trentadue for 26 CIA documents was rejected in June. A letter from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which reviewed the documents, said their release “could cause grave damage to our national security.”

The above certainly does merit some questioning. How can information on a DOMESTIC bombing carried out years ago by a DOMESTIC terrorist, without FOREIGN involvement impact “National Security”?

If it is a still-exploitable security-defect, then people should be losing their jobs and going to jail, if not executed for treason.

The only thing, I can think of that would involve “National Security” would be if the missing information proved that the government incorrectly tried, convicted, & executed an innocent man or that the government was actually involved in the killing of the Citizens there. That is, if the Government did something that would cause a “loss of face” or, “undermine” the legitimacy of its authority; for it is this ‘authority’ which would become null & void should the government be killing its Citizens. (Are you beholden to a madman who WILL kill you or do you bodily harm? Surly not!)


10 posted on 09/27/2009 3:54:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Did muzzie loathing of the west erupt over night? No. Did it all surface the day before 9/11? Also no, in fact it festered for quite awhile. And indeed, 9/11-like events had been sometimes occuring, though they were denied.

Who here thinks TWA800 **spontaneously** blew up..? Oh..! And in Pakistan they had “glorious posters” of a 747 blowing up over Manhattan BEFORE 800 occured..!!

RIDICULOUS.


11 posted on 09/27/2009 3:56:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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That islamist McVey probably at least vies for the title of going quickest from court to the executioner.


15 posted on 09/27/2009 4:17:53 PM PDT by onedoug
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Good evening lovely lady. Yes, I know we've been through this a number of times, but check out post 17.

5.56mm

18 posted on 09/27/2009 4:27:19 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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All of this really makes me wonder. What exactly was on those papers that Sandy Berger was stealing?


19 posted on 09/27/2009 4:28:48 PM PDT by SHOOT THE MOON bat ("Aggressive fighting for the right is the noblest sport the world affords" Teddy Roosevelt)
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"He said government officials claim the security cameras did not record the minutes before the bombing because "they had run out of tape" or "the tape was being replaced."

Based on what is well-known about how the FBI mistreated the rest of the OKBOMB evidence, missing critical frames on all tapes is precisely what we should expect.

21 posted on 09/27/2009 4:29:53 PM PDT by TXnMA
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Leftist scumbags are so adept at editing video that it is no wonder that they would claim the ACORN tapes are edited.

Always accuse others of the things that you are actually doing!

23 posted on 09/27/2009 4:31:39 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Ping


24 posted on 09/27/2009 4:43:22 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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Attorney: OKC bombing tapes appear edited
25 posted on 09/27/2009 4:44:00 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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My guess is that the tapes show evidence of two separate explosions as indicated by a seismograph located nearby. This supports the work by retired USAF General Benton Partin, who ran the Air Force's weapons development program. ie he understood explosions. He has solid evidence the building was brought down by charges attached to the building's columns and not by a blast. The must stunning evidence he presented was columns that has significantly more damage, yet were further away from columns that showed very little damage.

I also remember 4-5 years ago, the Air Force built a structure that matched the infrastructure of the Fed building and ran several experimental bombings that attempted replicated the claimed method - didn't even touch the build, much less bring it down.
30 posted on 09/27/2009 4:59:54 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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"The interesting thing is they spring back on after 9:02," he said. "The absence of footage from these crucial time intervals is evidence that there is something there that the FBI doesn't want anybody to see."

The FBI's track record for lying about OKBOMB evidence remains intact.


According to FBI SAIC Danny Defenbaugh, when asked if the FBI covered the crater to hide what really happened, Defenbaugh replied:

"Investigators weren't trying to hide anything from the public, only tryng to protect the evidence that was water soluble."

The Daily Oklahoman, 13 December, 1998.

On the morning of the bombing -- before it was covered -- the crater had already been flooded with dirty water, full of red Oklahoma mud -- with all sorts of debris floating on it!:

Yep -- you can always rely on our FBI for the truth... </sarc>

31 posted on 09/27/2009 5:01:18 PM PDT by TXnMA
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I also remember an episode of 20/20 that ran about 10 years ago. Tom Jerrel interviewed the producer of the episode, which was rather incredible. The producer (I think his name was Rodriguez) told Jerrel, "Tom, if you think this was stunning, wait until we air part 2 next week". Well, part 2 was never broadcasted and I believe I heard the producer was fired.

I order a copy of that first show and let the VHS tape sit on my shelf without viewing it. A year of so later I was telling a friend at work about all this and that I would loan him the tape. I did so, but that night I watched the broadcast again and was stunned that the last section talking about part 2 had been cut from the tape.
34 posted on 09/27/2009 5:10:21 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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Real Americans were ridiculed and threatened for years before Congress, MSM employees, et al finally knocked it off and got serious about investigating what really happened at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Relatively low-level government employees were being protected there.. the OKC bombing just may go all the way into an Oval Office or two. It is the cover-up I'm talking about.

43 posted on 09/27/2009 6:04:05 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Anyone willing to spend just a few minutes on a search engine for "AKAL Security" would have a good time. Take a look at AKAL's ownership, background and beliefs.

After you scratch your head wondering why they were even then guarding federal buildings, not to mention they are one of the largest federal security contractors even today, will wonder why on that day, and only that day in their contract history guarding that building (They had the contract), no guards showed for duty...none...no posts were filled that day

It's all there for the confirmed reading on the 'net.

45 posted on 09/27/2009 6:13:13 PM PDT by IrishPennant (/tagline off due to self moderation)
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Big surprise bump!


47 posted on 09/27/2009 6:29:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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What I remember most clearly is that, given the size of the blast, the truck was parked too far away from support pillars to have cut through the rebar, yet the rebar was cut by something blowing up at the same time as the truck.


48 posted on 09/27/2009 6:33:30 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Nachum; 2nd Amendment; 9YearLurker; andy58-in-nh; Arizona Carolyn; Bishop_Malachi; bray; ...

Freepers, here is why we need Sarah Palin, and nobody else, in the White House.

She really is our only chance at restoring any legitimacy or credibility to this country.


49 posted on 09/27/2009 6:36:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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THE CHILLING LINK:

The John Doe 2 Times

59 posted on 09/27/2009 7:34:11 PM PDT by gaijin
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