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Intense tracking for swine flu shot's side effects
AP ^ | 9-27-09 | LAURAN NEERGAARD

Posted on 09/27/2009 7:49:34 PM PDT by Pharmboy

WASHINGTON — More than 3,000 people a day have a heart attack. If you're one of them the day after your swine flu shot, will you worry the vaccine was to blame and not the more likely culprit, all those burgers and fries?

The government is starting an unprecedented system to track possible side effects as mass flu vaccinations begin next month. The idea is to detect any rare but real problems quickly, and explain the inevitable coincidences that are sure to cause some false alarms.

"Every day, bad things happen to people. When you vaccinate a lot of people in a short period of time, some of those things are going to happen to some people by chance alone," said Dr. Daniel Salmon, a vaccine safety specialist at the Department of Health and Human Services.

Health authorities hope to vaccinate well over half the population in just a few months against swine flu, which doctors call the 2009 H1N1 strain.

snip... "The recurring question is, 'How do we know it's safe?'" said Dr. Gregory Poland of the Mayo Clinic.

Enter the intense new monitoring.

(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flu; flushot; h1n1; h1ni; influenza; swineflu; swineflushot; vaccines
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The problem with the develoment of new drugs, vaccines and even medical devices is that if you test 2,000 people, and a severe reaction occurs once every 40,000 people, you will miss some rare things. The alternative is no medical advancement.
1 posted on 09/27/2009 7:49:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: neverdem; dangerdoc; mysterio

Oink flu ping....


2 posted on 09/27/2009 7:50:41 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: Pharmboy

thanks, bfl


3 posted on 09/27/2009 7:54:28 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Pharmboy
:D
4 posted on 09/27/2009 7:55:01 PM PDT by lmarie373 (*These little guys might look cute and cuddly, but trust us: they will kill you.-on emanuel brothers)
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To: Pharmboy

We got our flu shots two weeks ago. While getting it we got to talking about the H1N1 vaccine and I told the pharmacist that we were holding off on that one. We wanted to wait and see. Kind of like avoiding the first generation on software and she said she agreed.

fwiw


5 posted on 09/27/2009 7:56:29 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny) (Proverbs 26:13 The sluggard saith:'There is a pierced in the way; yea, a pierced is in the streets.')
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More than 3,000 people a day have a heart attack

Those poor folks, they must be getting tired of the daily heart attacks.

6 posted on 09/27/2009 8:00:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Pharmboy

Here’s the interesting thing about that article. They want the public to deal in facts, i.e. realize not every adverse health problem can be attributed to the flu vaccine, even though it might occur right after the vaccination. However, they’re calling this a pandemic and “deadly”, but to date, it’s mortality rate has been no higher, probably lower than the regular flu. So those rushing to vaccinate are not really giving the true facts to the public, IMO.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32877953


7 posted on 09/27/2009 8:03:12 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; Battle Axe; null and void; ...

micro ping


8 posted on 09/27/2009 8:05:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: dawn53

You make a good point; the most egregious example of misinformation by gummint health authorites was the AIDS thing in the ‘70s. Back then, the reason was PC-ness; now, I do not understand their motivation. There has been a consistent difference in mortalities by age group, whereby older people seem to do better—probably due to previous exposures. Perhaps they’re afraid of school-age devastation...


9 posted on 09/27/2009 8:07:59 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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For what it’s worth....:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/26/Flu-Vaccine-Exposed.aspx

From the Mercola.com web site:

“Studies show that flu vaccines are unsafe and ineffective. This presentation by the Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute includes a visual depiction of flu vaccine production — how the flu vaccine is made and what it contains.

The video by Thinktwice Global Vaccine Institute offers a good summary of what every person should know about the seasonal flu vaccine; how it’s made, and its effectiveness.

Signs and Symptoms of Influenza

As most of you probably know, influenza is a contagious viral respiratory infection. Symptoms include:

Fever

Chills

Runny nose

Sore throat

Cough

Muscle aches

Fatigue

Decreased appetite

Typically, the condition will improve after two to three days of bed rest, although some symptoms may persist for about a week.

What many people do NOT know, however, is that death caused directly by the flu virus is very rare. The vast majority of so-called “flu deaths” are in fact due to bacterial pneumonia – a potential complication of the flu if your immune system is too weak.

SNIP

...“But the vaccine will prevent the flu, which will prevent the possibility of developing pneumonia,” some might say.

That sounds good in theory, but the statistics simply do not support this assertion.

Because study after study, and master studies that compile the results from several studies to get a more objective result, keep coming to the same conclusion: Flu vaccines DO NOT WORK, and in many cases do more harm than good.

In fact, one shocking statistic brought to light in this video is that BEFORE the CDC advocated vaccinating children under the age of five, the number of children dying from the flu was very low, and on the decline....

SNIP

...And to add insult to injury, you’ve just been injected with a laundry list of harmful ingredients.

What’s in the Seasonal Flu Vaccine?

The flu strains selected are cultivated in chick embryos for several weeks before being inactivated with formaldehyde, which is a known cancer-causing agent. Then they’re preserved with thimerosal, which is 49 percent mercury by weight.

Even many health care professionals are confused about this and are not aware that the preservative thimerosal is mercury. As a quick side note, one of my chief writers told me that, “the doctor’s office told me the vaccine does not contain mercury, just something called thimerosal.”

Please, don’t be fooled by this incredible ignorance. If you have carefully studied this issue there is a great possibility you may know more than your physician about this topic. Don’t back down if they tell you something you otherwise know to be true.

According to the CDC, the majority of flu vaccines contain thimerosal. Some contain as much as 25 mcg of mercury per dose. This means that it may contain more than 250 times the Environmental Protection Agency’s safety limit for mercury...

SNIP

...In addition to mercury, flu vaccines also contain other toxic or hazardous ingredients like:

Aluminum — a neurotoxin that has been linked to Alzheimer’s disease

Triton X-100 — a detergent

Phenol (carbolic acid)

Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)

Betapropiolactone - a disinfectant

Nonoxynol - used to kill or stop growth of STDs

Octoxinol 9 - a vaginal spermicide

Sodium phosphate

...”

SNIP

And it goes on... investigate this issue carefully and judge for yourself.


10 posted on 09/27/2009 8:28:11 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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I'm tired of worrying what the anti-vaccine woo-woos believe or don't believe. I'll be getting both the seasonal and H1N1 vaccines if I can, which I think I probably will. I have been on the early shot list since I was little due to the lung surgery I had as a small child.

Luckily, soon after that, I was brought into the BIG PHARM CONSPIRACY.
11 posted on 09/27/2009 8:36:15 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

You are welcome to my H1N1 doses.


12 posted on 09/27/2009 8:40:20 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Pharmboy

Screw ‘em...I have never taken a flu shot and will not start now...I’ve never had the flu...probably ‘cause I didn’t take the shots offered.


13 posted on 09/27/2009 8:42:52 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Pharmboy

Every since the debate about the swine flu has hit FR I have been thinking about this bit of history.

CDC - NCHHSTP - Tuskegee Study - Timeline
Address:http://www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm


14 posted on 09/27/2009 8:51:48 PM PDT by Global2010 (Strange We Can Believe In)
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To: ET(end tyranny)

That’s what I’m doing this year. I’ve been getting the shots for 20 years, ever since I worked at a hospital and we got them for free through Employee Health. The one year I didn’t, I was pregnant - and oh man, was I sick with the flu that year! The part I remember was the worst - the chills til I thought I would shake to pieces.


15 posted on 09/27/2009 9:17:17 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: TEXOKIE

“Fever

Chills

Runny nose

Sore throat

Cough

Muscle aches

Fatigue

Decreased appetite”

I have the same symptoms from working the night shift (and reading the local news, or listening to a liberal).


16 posted on 09/27/2009 9:20:55 PM PDT by repubpub
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To: Pharmboy

I am not getting the shot. Period. Don’t trust the government.


17 posted on 09/27/2009 9:22:08 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: dawn53

Spot on

http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gbs.htm


18 posted on 09/27/2009 9:48:48 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: Pharmboy

I have gotten the flu vac off and on for the last few years. The last two years have been completely unnecessary. The vaccinations did not “protect” against the flu that occurred in those two years.

Now we have the seasonal flu and H1N1. I wouldn’t dare tell anyone what to do with their own body. But, you have got to wonder what kind of mixture those two vaccines are going to produce. They have been worrying about the H1N1 mutating...what an interesting opportunity.

By the way, I need some clarification. It is my understanding, from reading about the two types of vaccinations that will be available, that anyone who receives the flu mist will actually be shedding the virus for 21 days. Any freepers know anything about this?

Good Luck to all...whatever you decide to do about the vaccinations.


19 posted on 09/27/2009 10:18:12 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Obama, YOU LIE!!)
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To: Pharmboy

The author seems to be saying that the whole H1N1 thing is a tremendous experiment on the population to see what the serum does. I suspect it is also an oblique experiment to see how much control the government can get on the population for an “emergency.”


20 posted on 09/27/2009 11:23:56 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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