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Special prosecutor to probe allegations of forged Working Families (ACORN) ballots
Times Union ^ | 9/27/09 | Mike Goodwin

Posted on 09/27/2009 8:27:38 PM PDT by pissant

A special prosecutor is already being eyed amid a burgeoning scandal in Troy over the alleged forgery of absentee ballots in this month’s Working Families Party primary. The scandal is focused on suspicions people tied to the Troy Democrats forged ballots.

News of the fakes surfaced in Saturday’s edition of the Times Union. The details were eye opening because so many voters interviewed by the Times Union said they didn’t vote despite ballots cast in their name. Voters said their signatures had obviously been forged and comparisons between their registration cards and the ballot applications showed distinctly different signatures.

Today, Senior Writer Brendan J. Lyons reports:

A special prosecutor is expected to be appointed Monday to investigate widespread allegations of voter fraud linked to dozens of absentee ballots on the Working Families Party line in the city.

Two people familiar with the case, which was first publicly exposed in Saturday’s Times Union, said Rensselaer County Judge Robert Jacon may make the appointment. Last week, District Attorney Richard McNally, a Democrat, privately notified the court that his office would recuse itself from the investigation, the sources said.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.timesunion.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: acorn; albany; coi; impeach; larrysinclairslover; marxistnewparty; newparty; obama; usstatesny; workingfamiliesparty
ACORN fraud? Surely you jest.
1 posted on 09/27/2009 8:27:39 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Jet Jaguar

ACORN fraud ping.


2 posted on 09/27/2009 8:28:56 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: pissant

Time to send out the squirrels to eat them up.


3 posted on 09/27/2009 8:29:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: pissant

It looks like ACORNs “lawyers” are going to be busy filing another “lawsuit”. LOL!


4 posted on 09/27/2009 8:29:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: Army Air Corps; FlingWingFlyer; altair; stephenjohnbanker; little jeremiah; ~Kim4VRWC's~; ...
ACORN Ping!

FReep mail me if you want on/off the list.


5 posted on 09/27/2009 8:30:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Without a special prosecutor, I see very little to stop ACORN/SEIU.


6 posted on 09/27/2009 8:33:10 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This stuff is getting insane. It’s like the devil got ACORN going as a front, then took it over.


7 posted on 09/27/2009 8:34:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: pissant
Anyone that by now doesn't believe this organization is totally corrupt is simply delusional.
8 posted on 09/27/2009 8:38:15 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The DemocRat Party is no longer an American political party.)
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To: pissant

This is a common democrat scam.

Democrats working in the local Supervisor of Elections office scan the data base for registered voers with a history of not voting.
Democrats then turn in fraudulent absentee ballots in those names.
Unless the real voters try to submit a legitimate vote no one is the wiser.

Here is the kicker - if the fraudulent vote is entered first the real vote is not accepted.
In that case the second vote is rejected and the real voter has to file a complaint with the local Supervisor of Elections.
If that person is a democrat guess what happens to the complaint.

Either way, most of the fraudulent votes get counted.


9 posted on 09/27/2009 8:40:59 PM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: pissant

Obama did not win in 2008, they stole that election. I don’t think we will ever prove it, but ACORN stole that election.


10 posted on 09/27/2009 8:43:06 PM PDT by txroadkill ( 9/12/2009 another win for the Gipper!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Obama *IS* ACORN.


11 posted on 09/27/2009 8:43:46 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: pissant; All
From Obama's official website:

When Obama met with ACORN leaders in November, he reminded them of his history with ACORN and his beginnings in Illinois as a Project Vote organizer, a nonprofit focused on voter rights and education. Senator Obama said, "I come out of a grassroots organizing background. That's what I did for three and half years before I went to law school. That's the reason I moved to Chicago was to organize. So this is something that I know personally, the work you do, the importance of it. I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.”

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGC7zm
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Obama, ACORN, the (Marxist) New Party (Obama was a member of the New Party!) and the Working Familes Party (an Acorn front group)
numerous sources

Posted on Friday, September 11, 2009 11:08:18 AM EDT by ETL:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2337249/posts

12 posted on 09/27/2009 8:44:02 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: pissant; Jet Jaguar; 444Flyer

I demand a revote!!! Seriously, this is getting beyond madness. What are the consequences for this? —for acorn, for the actual election results? Anything?


13 posted on 09/27/2009 8:44:04 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Hate to be ignorant. But what happens if a national investigation of ACORN determines that Obama didn’t take some of these states? Does he get impeached? Then we get Biden or Pelosi? Ouch! Or a new election? This is going to become way way to intricate for the typical non-involved American to follow, I fear


14 posted on 09/27/2009 8:44:40 PM PDT by Nodems2000 (Beheadngs are better says atlanta holy man)
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To: Iron Munro

Always a sham investigation after the fact and nothing happens.


15 posted on 09/27/2009 8:44:47 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: pissant; Jet Jaguar; 444Flyer

This is why obama didn’t want acorn investigated and we all know it. I want action, and consequences...starting with him being held accountable for his association with acorn!


16 posted on 09/27/2009 8:45:50 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: pissant; All
ACORN front group (Working Families Party) backs ChiCom-linked candidate in Sept 29 New York City comptroller runoff
Source: Epoch Times and New York Times

Posted on Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:00:30 AM ET by ETL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2348728/posts
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Protesters hold eye-catching boards that condemn city Comptroller candidate John Liu. (Helena Zhu/The Epoch Times)
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/22038/

17 posted on 09/27/2009 8:47:54 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

DITTO!


18 posted on 09/27/2009 8:48:03 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: txroadkill

A combination of ACORN steal and McCain sellout.


19 posted on 09/27/2009 8:49:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: pissant

How many votes did Franken win by? Were they legit?


20 posted on 09/27/2009 8:52:00 PM PDT by umgud (Look to gov't to solve your everday problems and they'll control your everday life.)
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To: Iron Munro

You have that right. ACORN in OKC tried to fraud the election for an OK Senate seat to keep the GOP from taking over the Board of Elections for the first time in history. Whatever party controls the OK Senate, controls the election boards. Republicans never controlled the OK Senate until 2008.

With a fair election in OKC and Tulsa without Acorn voter fraud, Obama might have gotten even less then 34% of the votes he received here in November.


21 posted on 09/27/2009 8:52:31 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Frantzie

At some stage of hugh and series, we reach a tipping point.


22 posted on 09/27/2009 8:52:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: umgud

a) Couple hundred

b) Hell no


23 posted on 09/27/2009 8:53:06 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

No mention of ACORN in that article?


24 posted on 09/27/2009 8:57:53 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: ETL

That just made my blood pressure go up.. Seriously, he didn’t want acorn investigated for a reason...who is going to prosecute in spite of him?


25 posted on 09/27/2009 8:57:55 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: pissant

ACORN is a criminal organization. Every state should be investigating them...


26 posted on 09/27/2009 8:58:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (UN mixing democracies & dictators' is like mixing ice cream and shit-all of it stinks.(Steyn))
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To: TruthWillWin; All
RE: "Special prosecutor to probe allegations of forged Working Families ballots"

No mention of ACORN in that article?

From David Horowitz's
FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org

PROFILE: WORKING FAMILY PARTY

* Front group for ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now)

* Functions as a political party in New York State and Connecticut, running or cross-endorsing candidates for local, state, and federal office

* Works closely with Hillary Clinton

Currently composed of some 30,000 members, the Working Families Party (WFP) is a front group for ACORN (the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). WFP functions as a political party in New York State and Connecticut, promoting ACORN-friendly candidates. Unlike conventional political parties, WFP charges its members dues -- about $60 per year -- a policy characteristic of ACORN and its affiliates.

According to the party's website, WFP is a coalition founded jointly by ACORN, the Communications Workers of America, and the United Automobile Workers. However, ACORN clearly dominates the coalition. New York ACORN leader Steven Kest was the moving force in forming the party, and WFP headquarters are located at the same address as ACORN's national office, at 88 Third Avenue in Brooklyn, New York.

An outgrowth of the socialist New Party, [Working Family Party] WFP was created in 1998. According to a 2000 article by the Associated Press, its objective was (and still is) to "help push the Democratic Party toward the left." In pursuit of this goal, WFP runs radical candidates in state and local elections. Generally, WFP candidates conceal their extremism beneath a veneer of populist rhetoric, promoting bread-and-butter issues designed to appeal to union workers and other blue-collar voters, Republican and Democrat alike.

The Working Families Party benefits from a quirk of New York State (and Connecticut) election law which allows parties to "cross-endorse" candidates of other parties. Thus when Hillary Clinton ran for the Senate in 2000, she ran both on the Democratic Party ticket and on the Working Families Party ticket. Of the 3.4 million popular votes Ms. Clinton received from New Yorkers, the Working Families Party delivered 103,000.

"Candidates know that when they're on our line, they're committed to certain things," explains Bertha Lewis, who moonlights as WFP co-chair and New York ACORN Executive Director. Speaking days before Mrs. Clinton won her Senate seat in 2000, Lewis noted, "Hillary knows that if she wins, we're going to be knockin' on her door. She won't be able to hide." 

In the November 2000 election, WFP cross-endorsed Al Gore and Hillary Clinton. WFP won 80,000 votes for Gore and, as noted above, some 103,000 votes for Clinton.

During the campaign, Mrs. Clinton spoke at numerous WFP events, most memorably at the party's debut convention, held March 26-27, 2000 at the Desmond Hotel in Albany -- an event which the Communist newspaper People's Weekly World approvingly called "a turning point in New York politics." After receiving WFP's endorsement, Clinton vowed to wage a "people's grassroots campaign." "[T]here have been few candidates in history more supportive of our issues than Al Gore and Hillary Clinton," proclaimed WFP campaign literature.

In the 2004 election cycle, a new force entered New York politics: billionaire financier George Soros. The Soros-funded Drug Policy Alliance -- a drug legalization lobby through which Soros often funnels political contributions -- gave $81,500 to the Albany County District Attorney campaign of Democrat David Soares. Instead of donating the money directly, however, the Drug Policy Alliance laundered Soros' contribution through the Working Families Party -- an illegal act according to New York State law.

WFP expanded into Connecticut in 2004, and promised that it would soon be active in all ten states where "fusion voting" -- that is, cross-endorsement of candidates by multiple parties -- is still legal. Those states include Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, New York, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, and Vermont.

In 2006, WFP exhorted voters to “help stop the Bush agenda and elect a Democratic majority to the House of Representatives” by supporting its “Take Back Congress” project.

In 2008, Barack Obama and Joe Biden were listed on the WFP presidential ticket as well as the Democratic Party ticket.

In 2009, WFP supported New York State's newly increased "millionaire's tax" on the income of individuals earning $500,000 or more per year. When New York billionaire Tom Golisano (whose tax liability rose to $13,000 per day as a result of the tax hike) announced that he would be moving to Florida (which has no state income tax), WFP Executive Director Dan Cantor Called Golisano's move "selfish." "It's a disgrace," said Cantor, "that this is how he pays back the state where he was presumably educated and that's been so good to him. Taxes are the price you pay for civilization."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6965

27 posted on 09/27/2009 9:03:50 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: pissant

hmmmm...Kirsten Gillibrand....Scott Murphy...


28 posted on 09/27/2009 9:08:28 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: TruthWillWin

Of course not. I had to add it to the title


29 posted on 09/27/2009 9:09:57 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: GOPJ

I remember an Iowa state legislature election discussed in here a month or so ago. It was just a state office, not federal, so I didn’t think they’d steal it, but now I wonder.

The Democrat won by a couple hundred votes or so, but Dem absentee ballots were over 1,000 and the Republican absentees were only around 100 or so.

Acorn at work? Practicing their skills maybe?


30 posted on 09/27/2009 9:10:26 PM PDT by Norseman
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You people - I mean really. “hugh & series” WTF is that?

You need to use the spell checker... ;-)

LOL!

The state of NV is going to indict ACORN because someone turned?? Hopefully progress.


31 posted on 09/27/2009 9:10:54 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: All

Correction to my post #27: Should be “Working Families Party”, not “Working Family Party”.


32 posted on 09/27/2009 9:13:52 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Norseman

I was a democrat many many years ago - and once a friend and I (she was very influential in the dem party) were waiting on some election returns. I asked her why this one precinct was so late getting their votes in - and she said they had to wait until they knew the vote so they would know how many votes to add - so they could win without it being obvious they were “stuffing” the box....


33 posted on 09/27/2009 9:16:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (UN mixing democracies & dictators' is like mixing ice cream and shit-all of it stinks.(Steyn))
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To: Frantzie
You people - I mean really. “hugh & series” WTF is that? You need to use the spell checker... ;-)

“hugh & series” (as opposed to "huge and serious") is a FR joke, I believe, based on a real post by someone around a year or so ago. I was on the thread and the person was definitely not joking. He or she was very embarrassed by it and said something like it was because they hadn't gotten enough sleep.

BTW: many spell checkers wouldn't find anything wrong with the words "hugh" (a person's name) and "series". "hugh" some might catch if it wasn't capitalized.

34 posted on 09/27/2009 9:22:44 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Thanks. No I know. I made the mistake the other day correcting someone. I got my ears pinned back. BTW - does Pinned have two n’s? ;-)


35 posted on 09/27/2009 9:25:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (Do we want ACORN running America's healthcare?)
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To: pissant
A special prosecutor is already being eyed amid a burgeoning scandal in Troy over the alleged forgery of absentee ballots in this month’s Working Families Party primary. The scandal is focused on suspicions people tied to the Troy Democrats forged ballots.

With the ever increasing percentage that absentee ballots make up of the votes cast, and the ongoing stories of fraudulent registrations submitted by ACORN, the possibility, or likelihood of fraud and stolen elections just keeps getting greater.

Republicans have been too afraid to investigate this thoroughly, and the Dims and MSM have no intention of seriously investigating it. - Those two young people with their pimp and hooker act have done more to shine a light on this criminal enterprise than all others in the US combined. Their work might have forced negligent, cowardly and dishonest public officials to finally take a serious look.

But that's still no certainty.

36 posted on 09/27/2009 9:31:51 PM PDT by Will88
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To: umgud

Had to be, they counted them three times.


37 posted on 09/27/2009 9:36:11 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Frantzie

Were not encouraged to use the code word ‘n’s’ around here.


38 posted on 09/27/2009 9:43:29 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It’s a criminal organization - have faith - the wheels of justice grind slowly but very fine...


39 posted on 09/27/2009 9:54:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (UN mixing democracies & dictators' is like mixing ice cream and shit-all of it stinks.(Steyn))
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To: GOPJ

I did some more digging on that Iowa Special Election. It was the 90th District and the Democrat, Hanson, won by only 130 votes (3,965 to 3,868) over the Republican, Burgmeier.

Details can be found at: http://www.sos.state.ia.us/elections/results/09specialresults.html (Click on the link to Precinct Results, including absentee)

I would bet a lot that the election was stolen. Here’s why:

(Sorry for the lousy formatting)

Three counties were involved. In every one, the Rep won hands down among those going to the polling place. Here are the results in the smallest county, Wapello County: Dem first, Rep second
Agency Comm. Center 87 117
Eddyville Public Library 39 55
Eldon Library Hall 64 92
Hickory Grove Comm. Church 21 46
IHCC Video Conf. Trng Ctr 24 65
Kirkville City Hall 20 45
Township Hall, Highland Ctr 25 51

Subtotals 280 471

The Republican got 62.7% of the vote at the polling places in Wapello County and won hands down at every single polling place, by better than a 2 to 1 margin in 4 of the 7.

Ah, but note that I said “Subtotal.” Here’s the absentee results in the same county

Absentee ballots 319 132
Grand Total 599 603

The Democrat got 70.7% of the absentee ballots cast in the same county that the Republican got 62.7% of the votes when voters actually showed up at the polls, i.e., were real people.

I’d love to see what a statistician would make of that.

Results in the other two counties were similar. In fact Van Buren was even worse. The Republican won every one of the 8 polling places 913 to 389 or 70.1% of the vote, but lost the absentee 278 to 258, getting only 48.1% of the absentees. He did win the county handily.

Jefferson had 10 polling places and the Dem actually won at 3 of them this time, but lost the polling place vote 1,079 to 1,518 (Rep got 58.4%) and won the absentee vote 1,620 to 546 (Dem got 74.8%!!)

In all, the Dems cast 2,217 absentee ballots and only sent 1,742 voters to the polling places, so 55.9% of their ballots were mailed in.

This whole thing stinks and someone should investigate the absentee ballots and see if real voters mailed them in. The numbers are way too lop-sided to believe.


40 posted on 09/27/2009 10:01:47 PM PDT by Norseman
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To: Will88
Republicans have been too afraid to ....

There are so many factual statements that could begin this way. It's almost like a bad joke and very sad, the Republicans.

The Republicans will either become an American party or be replaced by a new party, an American party.

41 posted on 09/27/2009 11:42:21 PM PDT by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Frantzie

As in pinning for the fjord?


42 posted on 09/28/2009 1:06:34 AM PDT by dglang
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To: pissant

Personally I think that acts of voter fraud should carry the death penalty. It’s *that* serious.


43 posted on 09/28/2009 1:29:40 AM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: pissant; All
I am maintaining a running file on ACORN,
' The Issa Report- ACORN "a criminal enterprise..."'--Click the picture:


44 posted on 09/28/2009 3:23:35 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Norseman

Unless there was a large event - (something after the peak period when people sent back ballots) that would sway voters to the “other side”, it’s fraud - ....


45 posted on 09/28/2009 4:09:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (UN mixing democracies & dictators' is like mixing ice cream and shit-all of it stinks.(Steyn))
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To: backhoe

Yeah ;-)


46 posted on 09/28/2009 5:52:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: GOPJ

“It’s a criminal organization - have faith - the wheels of justice grind slowly but very fine...”

If it weren’t for Beck, and Darrell Issa, I would be faithless. We’ll see.


47 posted on 09/28/2009 5:54:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Frantzie
Malapropisms are a common occurrence on the Internet. Some are funny and take on a meme-like existence. "Hugh and series", "stuning your beeber", etc... are just such colloquialisms.

I like them. They add flavor. ;-)

As for the thread topic. This is still in the "Duh, sh*t" category for me. Great that people are waking up and heads are starting to roll, but what about all of those elections whose outcome is now cast in doubt by this info? What of those Secretary's of States and Attorneys General that REFUSED to investigate ACORN's misdeed allegations that are now proving well founded?

Mark Ritchie of Minnesota comes to mind. 30k some odd ACORN registrations, some with all the ear marks of fraud, and he couldn't find ANYTHING to investigate?

Pull my other leg... ACORN's enablers need to answer charges every bit as much as ACORNs staff and management do.

48 posted on 09/28/2009 6:02:46 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: pissant
ACORN is a HIGHLY RACIST organization, posing as legitimate.
49 posted on 09/28/2009 6:29:10 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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