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Schoolgirl Dies After Cancer Jab
BBC News online ^ | 09/28/09

Posted on 09/28/2009 3:02:15 PM PDT by originalbuckeye

A 14-year-old girl has died after being given a cervical cancer jab as part of a national immunisation programme, but the exact cause of death is unknown. The pupil took ill shortly after she received the Cervarix vaccine. A routine programme of vaccinating 12- and 13-year-old girls started in September 2008 across the UK using the Cervarix vaccine made by GlaxoSmithKline. A catch-up campaign is now under way for older girls. "The incident happened shortly after the girl had received her HPV vaccine in the school. No link can be made between the death and the vaccine until all the facts are known and a post-mortem takes place. "We are conducting an urgent and full investigation into the events surrounding this tragedy." In a statement posted on the school's website, headteacher Dr Julie Roberts said during the immunisation, "one of the girls suffered a rare, but extreme reaction to the vaccine". "A number of other girls also reported being unwell and some were sent home," she said. "If your daughter has received a vaccine today we ask that you are extra vigilant regarding any signs or symptoms." She listed possible reactions as mild to moderate short-lasting pain at the injection site, headache, muscle pain, fatigue and a low-grade fever. It is thought about a million girls have already safely received the vaccine. When the national immunisation project was announced, there was some controversy about the selection of Cervarix over Gardasil, which is used by the majority of vaccination programmes worldwide. In the UK, about 3,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer every year and about 1,000 die from it. The department said Cervarix had a strong safety record. Vaccination is not compulsory and consent is required before it is administered to the under-16s.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cervicalvaccine; hpv; socializedmedicine
This vaccine is Cervarix. It is cheaper than the Gardasil and has not been approved for use in the USA. The Government/NHS chose Cervarix because it will save millions of pounds a year over the cost of using Gardasil. I wouldn't have a daughter get either vaccine. But you see what happens when the Government is making your health care decisions.
1 posted on 09/28/2009 3:02:16 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: metmom

Ping!!


2 posted on 09/28/2009 3:04:56 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: metmom

Did you see this?


3 posted on 09/28/2009 3:07:14 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the trolls (even those within our ranks). Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: Politicalmom

: )


4 posted on 09/28/2009 3:07:50 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the trolls (even those within our ranks). Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: originalbuckeye
Allegations about Merck.
5 posted on 09/28/2009 3:08:49 PM PDT by Nephi ( Bush legacy: "I had to sacrifice free market principles to save the free market.")
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To: originalbuckeye
Sorry, no sympathy from me. This whole vaccine thing was a sham for fools.
6 posted on 09/28/2009 3:08:55 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: originalbuckeye

I’d wait to see what the autopsy says before going nuts over this.


7 posted on 09/28/2009 3:09:24 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: originalbuckeye

Modern medicine has a lot of shortcomings, but the concept of a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer is the most asinine, outrageous, ludicrous and downright criminal activity ever foisted by medical “science”.


8 posted on 09/28/2009 3:10:07 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: originalbuckeye

National healthcare at its worse! Ccoming soon to a state near you! Yuor safety guaranteed by the democrats!


9 posted on 09/28/2009 3:10:26 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: originalbuckeye

Socialized medicine murder by cheap third rate vaccine (unapproved due to quality issues in the US).

There is not a day that goes by without murder by the British NHS.

Total news blackout by the US mainstram media.


10 posted on 09/28/2009 3:12:28 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Wacka

ditto what you said...


11 posted on 09/28/2009 3:13:06 PM PDT by devane617 (Free HOLLY101 -- After all, she is right.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Total news blackout because our Big Media wants the same for us.


12 posted on 09/28/2009 3:13:22 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

RIP.


13 posted on 09/28/2009 3:14:36 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: originalbuckeye
Total news blackout because our Big Media wants the same for us.

Exactamento 100% accurate!

14 posted on 09/28/2009 3:15:14 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: BykrBayb

Great minds.... :)


15 posted on 09/28/2009 3:18:15 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. -- James Madison)
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To: originalbuckeye
the UK

That's all the further you need to read.

16 posted on 09/28/2009 3:20:37 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: Mark was here
Sorry, no sympathy from me. This whole vaccine thing was a sham for fools.

In their socialized country, parents probably had no choice but to submit their daughter for this shot or face steep fines and/or jail. If you read the DailyMail Online from the UK, it reports stories about government outrages every day. In the last month I have read of people fined $750 for not bringing their trash can back from the curb in time, women having to pay a huge tax to be qualified as "childminders" in order to babysit their closest friends' children whom they have known since birth, a woman in labor told by the hospital that an ambulance would not be sent to bring her to the hospital because she lived within a mile and should walk (and she ended up giving birth on the sidewalk) -- on and on it goes.

17 posted on 09/28/2009 3:22:34 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("I apologize to hookers for having associated them with the House of Representatives.--Jim Traficant)
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To: originalbuckeye

Acceptable casualties in the Great War to Reform Society.


18 posted on 09/28/2009 3:30:18 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: originalbuckeye

Coming soon to a Health Care plan for Everyone! (Except Congress, of course)


19 posted on 09/28/2009 3:30:53 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Markets and Marxists Don't Mix! Audit the FED NOW!)
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To: originalbuckeye

Don’t be concerned that drug companies have lobbied governments into passing laws requiring school children to take the company’s drugs.

It’s too bad someone died, but to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs.

GlaxoSmithKline lobbyists and their pals in government (UK in this case) have important work to do so that your children will safe. And whatever they decide is best will be forced on you and your child, at gunpoint if necessary.


20 posted on 09/28/2009 3:36:36 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Could you explain what you mean please? When I read this stuff;

International Journal of Cancer
ISSN: 1097-0215 (Online)
ISSN: 0020-7136 (Print)

Volume 111, Issue 2, 2004.
Pages: 278-285

quote:

In conclusion, a vaccine containing the 7 most common HPV types would prevent about 87% of cervical cancers worldwide, with little regional variation.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/...66144/HTMLSTART

it appears to be saying that it’s more than just possible to create a vaccine for a cancer that’s caused by a virus, it’s probably about the best possible plan.

So exactly what is your disagreement with cancer vaccines?


21 posted on 09/28/2009 3:38:07 PM PDT by trumpetvine
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To: originalbuckeye

I just clicked this thread to find out what a “Cancer Jab” was!!


22 posted on 09/28/2009 3:40:18 PM PDT by Drago
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To: trumpetvine

“So exactly what is your disagreement with cancer vaccines?”

Simple: viruses do not cause cancer. If viruses caused cancer, the population of the US would be about 20 million.


23 posted on 09/28/2009 4:02:42 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: Nephi

I’m angry at Merck because they’ve stopped making their single disease vaccines for the components of the MMR to force people to use the MMR. The Rubella vaccine is made with fetal cell lines.


24 posted on 09/28/2009 4:38:24 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Rennes Templar

“Simple: viruses do not cause cancer. If viruses caused cancer, the population of the US would be about 20 million.”

You know that all viruses aren’t the same right? If all viruses caused cancer and that cancer was deadly then the US population wouldn’t be 20 million, it would be 0 wouldn’t it?

Could you pass on a link or something backing up that statement? Just trying to compare what you base your statement on to what I see online!


25 posted on 09/28/2009 4:40:11 PM PDT by trumpetvine
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As the parent of a [then] teenage daughter, I started researching HPV vaccines and was not impressed. It only covers some of the HPV strains, is NOT recommended if the patient [victim] already HAS HPV [which can occur at birth]- yet patients are NOT tested prior to the vaccine, which has led to some ultra aggressive growths, loads of adverse reactions...all for a disease that is rather rare and highly curable.

Methinks this is a massive sterilization programme. I DO NOT wear a tin foil hat, btw.

I have the same concerns with the H1N1 vaccine. Too much activity on the vaccine front with a lot of efforts to mandate them. Scary.


26 posted on 09/28/2009 4:52:12 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: ex-Texan; HollyB

Vaccine Ping..


27 posted on 09/28/2009 4:55:03 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: originalbuckeye

In before the vaccine apologists.


28 posted on 09/28/2009 5:08:55 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BykrBayb

Hey, is FR lagging bigtime, or is it my computer?


29 posted on 09/28/2009 5:10:06 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I don’t know. It’s working fine for me.


30 posted on 09/28/2009 7:41:12 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Damn the trolls (even those within our ranks). Full speed ahead. ~ Þ)
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To: trumpetvine

This article succinctly addresses the issue.

http://caonline.amcancersoc.org/cgi/content/abstract/25/4/215


31 posted on 09/28/2009 8:33:29 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: originalbuckeye

Dreadful. RIP.


32 posted on 09/29/2009 5:29:58 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Rennes Templar

This is a 34 year old paper.
Can’t find anything newer to back your point?


33 posted on 09/29/2009 7:06:42 AM PDT by Wacka
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To: Rennes Templar

That was 1975, this article updates that opinion to the state of the art in 2007;

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=17940621

where it concludes that;

“The viruses reviewed here illustrate the diverse biological pathways to malignancy and the challenges of treating the resulting diseases. Yet the presence of the viral gene products in cancer and precancerous cells present attractive targets that may be exploited in novel therapies that distinguish these cells from normal cells. Antivirals such as lamuvidine used in heptatitis B and ganciclovir for Kaposi sarcoma specifically target the viral replication machinery. Targeting cancer cells specifically would have advantages over traditional modalities such as chemotherapy and radiation, which can include significant toxicities. Cervical cancer, because it retains HPV viral oncoproteins E6 and E7 and requires their continued expression for proliferation, provides an ideal model for cytotoxic immune therapies against these known antigens.”

Some viruses cause some cancers.


34 posted on 09/29/2009 4:24:01 PM PDT by trumpetvine
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To: Wacka

I hope I’ve shown that at least in some cases, viruses cause cancer. I think that there are perfectly valid questions concerning vaccines brought to the market too rapidly though. H1N1 may be an example of that. That said, the cervical cancer vaccine covers all of the important viral types and should be considered for use.


35 posted on 09/29/2009 4:24:02 PM PDT by trumpetvine
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To: trumpetvine

The issue is one of (incorrectly) interchanging association with causation. Note the verbiage in your reference:

“The viruses reviewed here illustrate the diverse biological pathways...”

“Yet the presence of the viral gene products in cancer...”

“Cervical cancer, because it retains HPV viral oncoproteins...”

“Illustrates”, “the presence of”, “retains”, . These are not words that describe causation. Show me a reference that says viruses cause cancer.

Some viruses are associated with some cancers. They may treat the associated virus. I do not believe that is helpful in recocery.


36 posted on 09/29/2009 8:29:49 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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To: FormerACLUmember; rawhide

Except she didnt die of the vaccine. The media here is now reporting that she died of a pre-existing medical condition.
At worst it seems the vaccine may have inadvertienly triggered the pre-existing condition.

Lets be clear: more than 1.4 million girls in Britain have been given the vaccine, of which there have been 4,657 suspected reactions reported, and that includes any reaction even minor.

And this girl is the only one to die.


37 posted on 09/30/2009 2:46:45 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: Rennes Templar
Infectious causes of cancer and their detection Lucy Dalton-Griffin1 email and Paul Kellam1,2 1Department of Infection, University College London, Cleveland Street, London W1T 4JF, UK 2The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, The Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge CB10 1SA, UK Journal of Biology 2009, 8:67doi:10.1186/jbiol168 The electronic version of this article is the complete one and can be found online at: http://jbiol.com/content/8/7/67 Published: 11 August 2009 "Oncogenesis can occur through virus-induced transformation. This is due to the persistence of the viral genome in a latent form in an infected cell, either without replication, as with Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), which infects B lymphocytes, or through integration of the viral genome into a host-cell chromosome, as with human papillomavirus (HPV), the cause of cervical cancer. EBV is frequently detected in childhood Burkitt's lymphoma, post-transplant B-cell lymphomas, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, Hodgkin's disease and nasopharyngeal carcinoma [1]. The transforming capability of this virus is exemplified further by its ability to transform resting B cells in vitro at high efficiency to obtain stable proliferating lymphoblastoid cell lines. This process is driven by EBV-encoded latent proteins that directly promote cell growth and survival – for example, lymphocyte membrane-associated protein-1 (LMP-1)." Your second point that treatment doesn't cure the cancer isn't applicable after the virus initiates oncogenesis is it? Once the malignant cells are proliferating they are passing virus along as well (given it integrated with the genome like HPV does). Hence the use of vaccines; stop it before it starts right (primary prevention) verses treatment (secondary prevention)?
38 posted on 09/30/2009 10:49:01 AM PDT by trumpetvine
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To: trumpetvine

Carcinogens are what oncologists should be focusing on, not viruses!

http://www.jsonline.com/features/health/63009612.html


39 posted on 10/05/2009 7:44:01 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (All Hail the Community Organizer -in -Chief)
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