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Mandatory flu vaccination splits workers
http://www.newsday.com ^ | September 27, 2009 | DELTHIA RICKS

Posted on 09/28/2009 5:09:45 PM PDT by luv2ndamend

Despite a planned rally in Albany Tuesday to protest a state regulation requiring health care workers be vaccinated against influenza — both seasonal and swine flu — New York’s top public health official predicts dissenters will ultimately extinguish their anger and roll up their sleeves.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/mandatory-flu-vaccination-splits-workers-1.1481242?print=true

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: communism; fascism; flu; fluvaccination; h1n1; healthcare; influenza; liberalfascism; lping; mandatory; marxism; obama; obamacare; rapeofliberty; seasonal; seasonalflu; socialism; socializedmedicine; sourcetitlenoturl; splits; swineflu; vaccination; vaccine; workers
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TAKE SHOTS OR BE FIRED.

1 posted on 09/28/2009 5:09:45 PM PDT by luv2ndamend
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To: luv2ndamend

Take the shot or get on the train.


2 posted on 09/28/2009 5:13:17 PM PDT by glock rocks (health care, gun safety and climate change are strawmen. It's all about CONTROL.)
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To: luv2ndamend

I hope the vaccines are not dangerous. This is a terrible risk for the State to take with the bodies of free people. I bet they lose a lot of health care workers just when they need them most.


3 posted on 09/28/2009 5:13:30 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Well they aren’t free people so the problem is solved.


4 posted on 09/28/2009 5:14:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SaraJohnson
Make the state sign a release form making them libel for all illnesses arising from taking the shot. If they do this the state will back off guaranteed
5 posted on 09/28/2009 5:15:57 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: luv2ndamend
Love the bit at the end of the article, the assertion that there's no relationship between the two vaccines.

Well, I can think of one: that both were developed and manufactured by fallible human beings. Unless Dr. Farber's suggesting that the new vaccine was the result of divine intervention...?

6 posted on 09/28/2009 5:20:52 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: JesusBmyGod

save for later


7 posted on 09/28/2009 5:22:09 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod (Baruch ha'ba B'Shem Yahweh)
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To: guitarplayer1953
The opponents also say it’s wrong that all five swine flu vaccine makers contracting with the federal government have been indemnified against lawsuits if someone gets sick or dies.

If pharma doesn't want to be held responsible, what's the chance the feds do? More so, since they are forcing it on the health care workers. This is not going to be pretty.
8 posted on 09/28/2009 5:23:14 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: luv2ndamend

So is it in their employment contract that they must take any innoculation that the state demands or be fired? Are these people guinea pigs?


9 posted on 09/28/2009 5:23:17 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Bahbah

> Are these people guinea pigs?
Apparently, Yes.


10 posted on 09/28/2009 5:24:34 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama, you stop lying; we'll stop callin' you a LIAR.)
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To: luv2ndamend
Darcy Wells, spokeswoman for the Public Employees Federation, which represents 9,000 health care workers statewide, including 3,000 at Stony Brook, said the union disapproves of mandatory vaccination, but is urging members to comply with the regulation.

How stupid (or brainwashed) are these people that work under a union?

11 posted on 09/28/2009 5:24:59 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Bahbah

Good point. Aren’t they union?


12 posted on 09/28/2009 5:25:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: guitarplayer1953

Yes, I am not sure the State (employers) has immunity from law suits should employees be injured. The vaccine maker and the doctors and nurses who administer the vaccine have been made immune to law suits. That tells you something right there.


13 posted on 09/28/2009 5:28:23 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: glock rocks
Consider it severance pay....take the train.
14 posted on 09/28/2009 5:30:24 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: luv2ndamend

“Just Say NO !”...


15 posted on 09/28/2009 5:30:39 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: mewzilla

Yep, we had a whole bunch of folks from a Senior housing complex get sick from a bad batch


16 posted on 09/28/2009 5:30:44 PM PDT by Son House (President Øbama Turns His Back On The Oppressed During Their Darkest Hours)
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To: luv2ndamend
New York’s top public health official predicts dissenters will ultimately extinguish their anger and roll up their sleeves.

It'd be a riot if someone rolled up their sleeve and socked their "top public health official" in the mouth.

and by the way luv2ndamend.... if you're taking SHOTS.... RETURN FIRE

17 posted on 09/28/2009 5:32:12 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Nachum; HollyB; DvdMom

Ping


18 posted on 09/28/2009 5:33:08 PM PDT by 444Flyer ( "Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers."--Mignon McLaughlin)
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To: SaraJohnson

government experimenting with government workers... where have we seen that before?


19 posted on 09/28/2009 5:33:53 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: luv2ndamend
I heard this morning that so many people have already got the H1 immunization that they are planning to monitor them.

Sounds like they got a heck of a lot of lab rats.

20 posted on 09/28/2009 5:35:15 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: presently no screen name

I wonder how those contributions to Obambi are paying off. I would like to know how much big pharm. is making on this? Can you imagine the price tag for vaccines for the entire US would be?


21 posted on 09/28/2009 5:36:08 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (Someone do me a favor and pour me some Jaeger And I’ll grab my guitar and play)
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To: SaraJohnson

Nods, my first thought as well, was what will NY do if the employees decide to leave, and find work elsewhere...

Tatt


22 posted on 09/28/2009 5:36:33 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Ancient Drive
government experimenting with government workers... where have we seen that before?

Where?

23 posted on 09/28/2009 5:37:22 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: luv2ndamend

“Look, I’ll give you $100 if you just mark me as having gotten the shot. You have a chance to make some real money with 500,000 of us not wanted to get a shot. Whataya say, Comrade?”


24 posted on 09/28/2009 5:38:39 PM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's mob minion - Mob Name: Hatman the Hitman)
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To: EGPWS

Military, for one. I never did get that anthrax shot they said was mandatory.


25 posted on 09/28/2009 5:39:42 PM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's mob minion - Mob Name: Hatman the Hitman)
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To: driftdiver

It could be that some fascists are mistaking free Americans for peasants. I hope these empoloyees straighten them out on that.


26 posted on 09/28/2009 5:42:52 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EGPWS

LSD for one


27 posted on 09/28/2009 5:44:11 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: luv2ndamend

Health care workers are needed across America. Pack it up, move. That’s what I would do. Forced vaccine? No way in hell.


28 posted on 09/28/2009 5:44:14 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Son House
This link mentions the latest wrinkle, whether the seasonal flu shot might make one more susceptible to H1N1...

Pregnant women face uncertainty over H1N1 vaccine

From the link...

This week saw media reports of studies suggesting that getting the seasonal flu shot makes people more susceptible to H1N1 - unpublished data that influenced Ontario's decision to delay its seasonal flu shots.

Make it mandatory? Not when they don't know what they don't know...

29 posted on 09/28/2009 5:50:05 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mojitojoe

Forcing vaccines on health care workers and first-responders in the event of a public health emergency is an absolutely justifiable practice - it’s the only way that they can prevent them from being carriers of a possibly deadly pathogen. If they don’t like it, they’re at liberty to quit.


30 posted on 09/28/2009 5:50:51 PM PDT by furquhart (Would it not be easier to dissolve the people and elect another?)
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To: luv2ndamend
It was only a matter of Time:

Figuring How To Terrify Us Over Swine Flu

See my profile page for another public health "emergency" that never materialized.

31 posted on 09/28/2009 5:51:55 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: luv2ndamend
Has the H1N1 vaccine been proven to be effective?

Nope

Has it proven to be safe?

Nope

Does the H1N1 vaccine contain known toxic substances?

Yes

Have the vaccine makers been indemnified against lawsuits if someone gets sick or dies?

Yes

Does the NY state government mandate violate personal freedom and liberty?

Absolutely.

This is an outrageous assault on personal freedom.

There is no way in h*** I'll take this unproven potentially toxic vaccine. The "benefits" simply do not outweigh the risks.

32 posted on 09/28/2009 5:52:39 PM PDT by kara2008 (The Answer to 1984 is 1776)
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To: luv2ndamend

Could always take the nasal spray... just DON’T inhale!


33 posted on 09/28/2009 5:53:04 PM PDT by nagdt ("speak the truth but leave immediately afterward")
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To: furquhart

Are health care workers normally required to get flu shots? And if so, does refusal usually result in termination?


34 posted on 09/28/2009 5:56:19 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: furquhart

Kind of a BS argument. These people are exposed to “deadly pathogens” every single day. What makes this one so special?


35 posted on 09/28/2009 5:58:10 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mewzilla
Meanwhile, from the NYS Dept. of Health website...

MEDIA ADVISORY: State Health Commissioner to Respond to Questions about Flu Vaccines

ALBANY, N.Y. (September 28, 2009) - On Tuesday, September 29, at 2 p.m. in the Corning Tower 14th Floor Conference Room, State Health Commissioner Richard F. Daines, M.D., will hold a media availability and respond to questions about both the seasonal and H1N1 flu vaccines.

I've got a question: When was a health emergency declared?

36 posted on 09/28/2009 5:59:57 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

One other observation: Fat lotta good belonging to a union does the rank-and-file...Again.


37 posted on 09/28/2009 6:02:05 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: furquhart

Right, like I said, I would quit and head South for a beautiful, warm winter. Let them eat cake.


38 posted on 09/28/2009 6:02:37 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: luv2ndamend

39 posted on 09/28/2009 6:07:17 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Somebody setup us Obama)
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To: mewzilla

In my experience, admittedly in a jurisdiction far from New York, the answer would be yes. They’re required to have many, many immunizations as a matter of course.


40 posted on 09/28/2009 6:08:47 PM PDT by furquhart (Would it not be easier to dissolve the people and elect another?)
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To: mewzilla

I have never heard of this mandatory thing.

the Unions should and most likely WILL back up any individual worker as the union doesn’t want bad PR for themselves. ha.


41 posted on 09/28/2009 6:12:23 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: driftdiver

It’s not. Medical staff are routinely required to be immunized for all sorts of things:

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:jRiSyHcwJ3IJ:www.seattlechildrens.org/health_care_professionals/pdf/immunity_requirements_2009.doc+medical+staff+immunization+requirements&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari

There, for example is a list of the immunizations required at the Seattle Children’s Hospital. You’re looking for tyranny in something that’s merely prudent.


42 posted on 09/28/2009 6:13:03 PM PDT by furquhart (Would it not be easier to dissolve the people and elect another?)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Moreover, it would take a long union battle to fire an employee who has passed their probationary period...


43 posted on 09/28/2009 6:13:45 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: mojitojoe

Well, good for you, but I imagine that Georgia, Florida, Texas, whatever will have the same requirement. Unless by “South” you mean to the clean and well-run hospitals of Mexico and Guatemala, of course.


44 posted on 09/28/2009 6:16:19 PM PDT by furquhart (Would it not be easier to dissolve the people and elect another?)
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To: guitarplayer1953
From the article:

The opponents also say it’s wrong that all five swine flu vaccine makers contracting with the federal government have been indemnified against lawsuits if someone gets sick or dies.

The makers of the vaccine cannot be sued, not sure if the state could be if it is a forced vaccination.

45 posted on 09/28/2009 6:25:42 PM PDT by JesusBmyGod (Baruch ha'ba B'Shem Yahweh)
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To: Scythian; GodGunsGuts
"No one will be able to buy or sell without the mark..."

When they add the biochip tag requirement for proof of vaccination, get ready...

....
Population Control

46 posted on 09/28/2009 6:56:52 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: JesusBmyGod
I have been told by parents on students shots if you make the school district liable for any adverse effect they will back off and not make the student have shots.
47 posted on 09/28/2009 7:58:07 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Romak 7.62X54MM, AK47 7.62X39MM, LARGO 9X23MM, HAPINESS IS A WARM GUN BANG BANG YEA YEA)
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To: furquhart

Uh no I don’t mean Mexico or Guatemala. There is a country that has excellent health care. Trump just built a new trump towers there.


48 posted on 09/28/2009 8:53:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: driftdiver; Liz; DvdMom

This one containes squalene, mercury, and thermisol.

You can do a search on those ingredients if you’d like. I know I wouldn’t get it.

It looks like some adverse effects are starting to show up from the vaccine:

‘A Participant in the H1N1 vaccine trials has an adverse reaction and coughs up blood.’

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/121071


49 posted on 09/28/2009 9:07:05 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Bahbah

It’s not unusual for some health care facilities to require vaccines including flu vaccines for their employees.

I have a sister that works in a nursing home and she had to get a yearly flu shot. One of my daughters works in a hospital and had to get some hepatitis vaccines, be up to date on all other vaccines and the yearly flu shot.

Employees are made aware of this when they are hired. If they do not like it they can choose not to work there. So nothing really new.


50 posted on 09/28/2009 9:52:22 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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