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Gay blood donor sues over sexual-history questions: Claims charter rights violated
Canwest News Service ^ | Tuesday, September 29, 2009 | Andrew Seymour

Posted on 09/29/2009 10:39:45 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA

A gay man who repeatedly gave blood after lying about having sex with other men is suing Canadian Blood Services, alleging the questionnaire used by the agency to screen out unsuitable donors is a violation of his charter rights. Kyle Freeman alleges the blood collection agency violates his charter rights and those of other gay men by asking male donors on the questionnaire whether they had ever had sex with a man, even once, since 1977.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; blooddonors; contaminatedblood; gayrights; hiv; homosexualagenda; politicallycorrect; riskybehavior
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This is beyond insanity.

In the 1980's, thousands of Canadians became infected with contaminated blood (HIV and Hepatitis). A "Royal Commission" (the "Krever Commission") conducted a lengthy, and very costly inquiry.

The Red Cross Society, which had been responsible for the blood supply, was found neglegant & a new "Canadian Blood Services Agency" was established to manage the blood supply. Naturally, the new agency put in place a screening system, designed to help prevent a repeat of the past disaster.

The "gay community" has objected to the screening questionaire, from day one. Now that memories are starting to fade, it seems that they're trying to play the "victim" card, yet again.

Anyone interested can access the "Krever Commission" report here:

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/activit/com/krever-eng.php

1 posted on 09/29/2009 10:39:46 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

This is no different than if he had AIDS and had sex with someone without telling them he was infected.

He should be tossed in jail for attempted murder.


2 posted on 09/29/2009 10:42:25 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Hey Obama. Where is Osama Bin Laden?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Insanity on parade.


3 posted on 09/29/2009 10:42:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I wonder if they ask women the same question.


4 posted on 09/29/2009 10:43:07 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

They’ll stop at nothing until everybody has AIDS.
They want to remove the Homosexuality = AIDS stigma, even though there’s strong enough correlation to warrant such questioning and subsequent restrictions.

Nobody who’s been to certain Asian or tropical locales has a problem with the restrictions. Not every one of them has a tropical disease, but it’s proven to be worth the exclusions.


5 posted on 09/29/2009 10:43:13 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I’ve heard that medical records will omit past sexually transmitted diseases and abortions.

Why would they do that if medical records are supposed to be “private” anyway?

Why keep ANYTHING on a medical record if the patient isn’t going to disclose past illness and treatment?


6 posted on 09/29/2009 10:43:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Exactly. Just like every homo out there, it’s always about them and their “rights”.


7 posted on 09/29/2009 10:43:52 AM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: VeniVidiVici
He should be tossed in jail for attempted murder.

Murder charge would require intent.

But you could definitely go after a wreckless endangerment charge. No different than "drunk driving".

You don't have to get in an accident or hurt anyone to be convicted.

8 posted on 09/29/2009 10:45:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: fanfan

Ping.


9 posted on 09/29/2009 10:47:36 AM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

If the laws won’t protect the majority then start handing out bats to everyone!


10 posted on 09/29/2009 10:47:53 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Two blood banks: the history of homosexual acts, imprisonment, prostitution, drug injection, risk of HIV, hepatitis, malaria, Creuzfeld-Jakob blood bank... and the regular blood bank.

Anyone who thinks the questions are a civil rights violation can draw from the first.


11 posted on 09/29/2009 10:49:30 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: a fool in paradise

reckless endangerment

wanton disregard

culpable negligence

take your pick. This homosexual intentional disregared medical safety and intentionally risked the lives of recipients. Intent was there, act was there. Canada will hit him with a wet noodle.


12 posted on 09/29/2009 10:50:29 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Not enough heterosexuals are getting AIDS so they want to force the contamination of the blood supply, to cause a wider panic and hide the fact that it is a gay disease.
13 posted on 09/29/2009 10:50:45 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: swain_forkbeard

They ask women if they’ve ever had sex with a man, who has had sex with other men.

There are a lot of related questions, which are asked of both sexes.

You can see the whole questionnaire here:

http://www.bloodservices.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/resources/Can-I-Donate/$file/rod_2008-11-18_green.pdf


14 posted on 09/29/2009 10:51:18 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I thought homo perverts were ‘proud’ of themselves and their lifestyle. Why would anyone be offended when asked about a part of your life that you’re proud of? These twisted pigs will parade down the avenue in floats, in drag, shouting out their ‘pride’ for all to see, but when asked in a form if they’re queer they shriek in outrage. Guess there’s something about reflecting the truth back to them in a questionaire that makes them cringe about their own perversion.


15 posted on 09/29/2009 10:51:34 AM PDT by jiminycricket000
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To: swain_forkbeard

It is my understanding that those who are promiscuous with vaginal or oral sex have a rate of HIV n times more than those who are not promiscuous.

But those who practice ANAL sex have a rate of HIV transmission 100n times more than promiscuous with orgal or vaginal sex.

Thus the first question should be ANAL, regardless of other factors. The 2d question should be promiscuous / multiple partners regardless of other factors.


16 posted on 09/29/2009 10:53:54 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: swain_forkbeard
I wonder if they ask women the same question.
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Well as a frequent woman blood donor, they would ask if I had slept a gay man etc, but not ask me if I had slept a gay woman.

The reasons for this is primarily that Aids is primarily transferred from male to male/female more frequent than it is from female to female/male.

I believe the woman to woman/male transfer is THIRTY THREE times LESS likely than that of male to male/female.

17 posted on 09/29/2009 10:54:28 AM PDT by purpleporter
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

This should be interesting.


18 posted on 09/29/2009 10:54:36 AM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

bookmark


19 posted on 09/29/2009 10:58:15 AM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Anyone who doesn’t want to be infected with HIV is a homophobe!


20 posted on 09/29/2009 10:58:28 AM PDT by BinaryBoy (Obama lies.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

His ‘charter rights’ end where the rights of others to not be harmed by his actions begin. If his giving blood could potentially harm someone else, you’re darn tootin he should be asked the question. If he lies, he should be prosecuted! Giving blood is not a mandated activity; it’s completely voluntary, so if he doesn’t like the questions being asked, he shouldn’t give blood!


21 posted on 09/29/2009 11:02:12 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Reminds me of the guy who was legally blind and sued UPS for not giving him a job as a driver.
Judge threw it out of court.

I would like to see judges have the power to fine the lawyer for the ‘plaintiff’ for even wasting the court’s time.
Have the fool lawyer write out a LARGE check to the judge’s favorite charity or something.

In this case- write the check to the blood bank.


22 posted on 09/29/2009 11:02:13 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Reminds me of the guy who was legally blind and sued UPS for not giving him a job as a driver.
Judge threw it out of court.

I would like to see judges have the power to fine the lawyer for the ‘plaintiff’ for even wasting the court’s time.
Have the fool lawyer write out a LARGE check to the judge’s favorite charity or something.

In this case- write the check to the blood bank.


23 posted on 09/29/2009 11:03:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: spintreebob
The transmissivity of HIV through normal heterosexual (unprotected) sex is miniscule compared to homo sex. The homo lobby campaigned throughout the 90s, with a lot of success, to get people to believe that any type of sex equaled risk of acquiring HIV.
24 posted on 09/29/2009 11:04:09 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

equal risk, I should add.


25 posted on 09/29/2009 11:05:12 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The biggest problem with “gays” in the US is the fact they are the #1 vector for the spread of infectious diseases among humans and many foreign nations want rid of this public health threat. Male homosexuals have the highest incidence of HIV/AIDS, syphilis, drug-resistant gonorrhea, entamoeba histolytica, chlamydia, herpes simplex II, Chancroid, Drug Resistant TB, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis non A & B, just to name a few. The press of course never discusses the CDC facts, but if you want to look for yourself the information is in the scientific literature. More than any other segment of society, the homosexuals are costing us billions in medical care.


26 posted on 09/29/2009 11:10:16 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Mr. Freeman admitted he knew he wouldn't be allowed to donate blood had he admitted to having sex with other men

Is he more concerned about his "right to donate blood" than about his ability to give AIDS to someone else? Does he think it would be great if everyone gave blood with no screening at all? Would it be OK with him if he gave blood that turned out the be infested with AIDS and it was given to someone?

What a turd.

27 posted on 09/29/2009 11:10:51 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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“so if he doesn’t like the questions being asked, he shouldn’t give blood!”

There's something else that wasn't mentioned in the article. If an “ineligible” donor lies on the form — because he doesn't want to be excluded in front of family or friends — he can simply affix a “Unit Exclusion Label” to his form. Every donor is given two bar-coded labels — one for “use”, the other for “don't use”.

All that anyone, who felt it necessary to lie on the form, has to do is affix the “don't use” label & the blood supply is protected. His privacy is protected — no body at the clinic knows there may be a problem with his blood.

The perp has no excuse — this was a deliberate act, carried out with no regard for the safety of others, as a “political statement”

More here: http://www.bloodservices.ca/CentreApps/Internet/UW_V502_MainEngine.nsf/page/Unit+Exclusion+Label?OpenDocument

28 posted on 09/29/2009 11:14:37 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

They had better not descriminate against AIDS and stuff, those viruses have lawyers you know


29 posted on 09/29/2009 11:20:06 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Don’t forget that the gay community nearly wiped out the hemopheliac community by selling their tainted blood. The gay community’s response was Elton John buying an aids infected youth a car. Another genocide unleashed by the left.


30 posted on 09/29/2009 11:23:38 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: heartwood
If only that could be done!

There is a real risk that the public will completely lose confidence in the blood supply system.

The government (as monopoly health-care provider) strongly discourages any individual blood banking. If you know you're going to have an operation soon, you can bank some of your own blood — and many people do. But, AFAIK, you aren't allowed to bank your blood for indeterminate times.

If the public loses confidence in the blood supply — people will demand the right to store their own blood. This would be hugely expensive & would create serious shortages of supply for the pooled blood bank. (All the supply is donated here — sales are prohibited.

How do the U.S. blood banks work, by comparison? Is there much banking of own-blood by individuals?

31 posted on 09/29/2009 11:24:54 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“A gay man who repeatedly gave blood after lying about having sex with other men”

Need I say more?


32 posted on 09/29/2009 11:25:54 AM PDT by Garvin ("Semper American Primitus")
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

I’m not forgetting that — but the general population seems to be developing selective amnesia. I didn’t know about Elton John and the car. Sick.


33 posted on 09/29/2009 11:26:58 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: spintreebob

orgal?

That’s a new one for me.


34 posted on 09/29/2009 11:28:42 AM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Not to minimize the AIDS aspect of it, but since gays claim that gayness is genetic... so people should know if they’re getting gay “genes” when they use donors. People seek donors with high IQ’s and other traits, so disclosure about gay/straight should be a choice too.


35 posted on 09/29/2009 11:30:55 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

A girl who was a grade below me in high school had a rare blood disorder that required a transfusion. She received some of that tainted blood and was diagnosed HIV+ in 1982. She lasted 25 more years, but her life was a living hell.


36 posted on 09/29/2009 11:35:02 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Cain’t remember the kids name. He made the cover of Time because he contracted aids through a blood transfusion. I believe he was a hemopheliac. Because he became a public figure Elton John mounted his PR steed and came to the resuce. I believe the kid died at 17.


37 posted on 09/29/2009 11:41:44 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

It’s like Sodom and Gomorrah. The sinners had the whole town but they only wanted that which was still pure.


38 posted on 09/29/2009 11:53:49 AM PDT by donna (President Eisenhower also warned of the "scientific-technological elite"!)
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To: SJSAMPLE
They want to remove the Homosexuality = AIDS stigma, even though there’s strong enough correlation to warrant such questioning and subsequent restrictions.

Do you mean, like, the fact that gays make up 1-2% of the population, but gay men account for about 70+% of the AIDs cases?

39 posted on 09/29/2009 11:56:57 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Another bug-chaser trying to give the rest of us AIDS?


40 posted on 09/29/2009 12:03:18 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: purpleporter

It’s far from certain that a woman would know about every sex partner of her sex partner(s).


41 posted on 09/29/2009 12:03:32 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: spintreebob

The questionnaire I reviewed seems to avoid the sort of specificity you suggest.


42 posted on 09/29/2009 12:05:17 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: donna

it’s like the gays that are always trying to get me to come over to their side. Have they alredy soiled all of their own and now theyre moving on to the pure straight men? maybe they don’t feel safe with their own kind anymore.

If i was a medical doctor i’d learn how to do castrations and the next time one of them tried to rape me I’d save the rest of the pure men of the world from his reign of terror right then and there. what’s he going to do, whine tot he cops?


43 posted on 09/29/2009 12:38:00 PM PDT by LincolnParty
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To: ridesthemiles

I like it.


44 posted on 09/29/2009 12:43:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Nobody who’s been to certain Asian or tropical locales has a problem with the restrictions. Not every one of them has a tropical disease, but it’s proven to be worth the exclusions.

India and Cairo -- I don't give blood anymore. (Is it 10 years before you can give again?)

45 posted on 09/29/2009 1:08:37 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: a fool in paradise
But you could definitely go after a wreckless endangerment charge.

I guess "wreckless" would be at the core of the definition of "endangerment," assuming you were acting recklessly. Once the wreck occurred, it's no longer "endangerment."

46 posted on 09/29/2009 1:11:13 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: LincolnParty

The problem is spiritual. The existence of purity reveals the sin, so the pure must be compromised.


47 posted on 09/29/2009 1:54:13 PM PDT by donna (President Eisenhower also warned of the "scientific-technological elite"!)
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To: Springman; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Squawk 8888; headsonpikes; AntiKev; Snowyman; ...
Thanks for the ping, Springman.


48 posted on 09/29/2009 4:03:13 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
In the 1980's, thousands of Canadians became infected with contaminated blood (HIV and Hepatitis).

Wasn't that blood sold to us by then Governor Clinton, taken from prisoners in Arkansas?

49 posted on 09/29/2009 4:05:04 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan
Some of it — yes, I believe so. Imagine the uproar if Bush had done that!
50 posted on 09/29/2009 4:09:17 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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