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Iran plant hidden in mountain
news24.com ^ | 9/29/09 | Ali Akbar Dareini

Posted on 09/29/2009 12:06:49 PM PDT by Nachum

Tehran - Iran's nuclear chief said on Tuesday his country built its newly revealed uranium enrichment facility inside a mountain and next to a military site to ensure continuity of its nuclear activities in case of an attack.

Vice President Ali Akbar Salehi, who also heads the Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran, said the site near the holy city of Qom is next to an ammunition depot controlled by the elite Revolutionary Guard, Iran's most powerful military force. He said the only connection between the Qom nuclear facility and the Guard is the Guard would protect it against possible attacks.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hidden; iran; mountain; plant

1 posted on 09/29/2009 12:06:50 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Laughable.

“the Guard would protect it against possible attacks”


2 posted on 09/29/2009 12:09:05 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Nachum
It will just make for a prettier explosion with the JDAMs
3 posted on 09/29/2009 12:09:16 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Nachum

Ooooooooo!

A Two-fer target!

Woo Hoo!


4 posted on 09/29/2009 12:09:47 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Nachum

The guard will try to pick through the rubble after numerous ‘bunker-buster’ munitions serially burrowed into the depths of the mountain and detonated within the facilities below.


5 posted on 09/29/2009 12:10:38 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Nachum

??

Is it just me?

Bombs can be skipped horizontally, can they not? Like into tunnel entrances?

And if the Rev. Guard is next to an ammunition depot, isn’t that just a two-fer?

Or are they making it up?

Only Israel knows for sure and I imagine they’re not telling.


6 posted on 09/29/2009 12:10:58 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: 2banana

Yep. Mission planners like it when the target group together.


7 posted on 09/29/2009 12:11:19 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag
If you follow the red arrow you will eventually overrun Qom.


8 posted on 09/29/2009 12:11:22 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It's a Girl!)
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To: 2banana

Yep. Mission planners like it when the targets group together.


9 posted on 09/29/2009 12:11:28 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag

Sounds to me they learned from NORAD.


10 posted on 09/29/2009 12:12:30 PM PDT by RC2
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To: squarebarb

No need to target the entrances, unless you just want to obstruct them.

The right munitions can tunnel several hundred feet into the earth and man-made structures but sending one bunker-buster after another into the same coordinates. Send them in sequence separated by 30 seconds or so to allow the rubble to quit moving - which might disrupt the aim points.

How deep ya wanna go is largely dependent on how many of your toys you intend to use .. to a point, and then they can’t go any deeper through the rubble.


11 posted on 09/29/2009 12:15:20 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Nachum

Don’t we have a new bunker buster? I bet we would like to try it out.


12 posted on 09/29/2009 12:15:45 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: 70th Division
Don’t we have a new bunker buster? I bet we would like to try it out.

Here's one they been working on warning, turn your sound down or it will scare the crap out of you ...
13 posted on 09/29/2009 12:17:53 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Having over-flown the Zagros mountains, I can tell you that is some of the most tortured and rugged surfaces of the earth I have EVER seen.

My point is that a ground advance from the SW to the NE would be tough, deadly and slow.

Why bother?


14 posted on 09/29/2009 12:19:58 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Nachum

Either those facilities get bombed now, or Tehran gets nuked later.


15 posted on 09/29/2009 12:21:15 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Nachum

It seems like it would just be a lot easier to let the world come in and poke around a bit. I mean, this operation is for power generation only, right?

As long as there is a way into the facility, I have high confidence in our ability to get destructive ordinance in to ruin a whole bunch of stuff.

What are the specs on those deep penetrating, bunker buster low yield nukes? We might have to drill a couple of holes with the first two but I have confidence a third one could remove a portion of the mountain quite effectively.


16 posted on 09/29/2009 12:23:05 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: 70th Division

Yes. The MOP - Massive Ordinance Penetrator: GBU-57A/B

http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-08/pentagon-wants-deploy-largest-non-nuclear-bomb-next-year

“The MOP is 20 feet long and can penetrate bunkers up to 200 feet before exploding.

At 15 tons, the MOP is a third heavier than the previous “mother of all bombs”, the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb, which was only 10.5 tons. The MOP also packs a whopping 5,300 lbs of explosives, which is 10 times the amount its predecessor bunker-buster, the BLU-109, carried. Basically, it’s massive.

The push for accelerated deployment is due to the increased perceived nuclear threats from Iran and North Korea. “


17 posted on 09/29/2009 12:23:24 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag

to say nothing of the B-61 nucular penetrator derivative...


18 posted on 09/29/2009 12:26:09 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Blueflag
It's a large plan from start to finish with challenges here and there.

The rugged terrain helps to limit the movement of the enemy forces too. In Iraq we basically went all the way on one highway.

After seeing how Saddam Hussein was able to operate with the corrupt UN, which much the same seems to be going on with Iran now, why out off the inevitable for later if we have the chance to take Iran down now?

Even if we blow up their nukes, they are still a major terrorist threat.

19 posted on 09/29/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It's a Girl!)
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To: Nachum
inside a mountain and next to a military site to ensure continuity of its nuclear activities in case of an attack. Vice President Ali Akbar Salehi, who also heads the Atomic Energy Organisation of Iran, said the site near the holy city of Qom is next to an ammunition depot controlled by the elite Revolutionary Guard, Iran's most powerful military force.

Blow up the ammunition depot and take care of the elite Revolutionary Guard. Make Qom into Q-BOOM! And then start fusing that mountain into a glassy pile.
20 posted on 09/29/2009 12:28:06 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Blueflag

WOW! A wealth of info there. That would rattle some ear drums.


21 posted on 09/29/2009 12:29:29 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: 70th Division

didn’t these two towelheads just confirm what our satellites thought they saw.


22 posted on 09/29/2009 12:34:39 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (I ROCK, Guitar Hero said so........)
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To: Cyclone59

My Congressman was on the radio this morning. head of the intelligence committee. Mike Rogers. Good man. He said tht he and Berry have known about the second reactor since he was sworn in. Hmmmm!


23 posted on 09/29/2009 12:36:37 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Nachum

Does that situation make it a “two-fer’ for Israel when they drop the bunker busters and destroy the nuclear plant?


24 posted on 09/29/2009 12:39:20 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Blueflag

Exactly but an end around is very easily handled if the basis of attack were as a ground based assault which is not necessarily the way to. I was stationed in Teheran from 1972-1974 and visited the airfield at Qum a few times in 73 when the Blue Angels showed there in the F4’s. I still remember the area very well as the terrain climbed from a dry lake bed area up to the airfield. The terrain reminds me of the area around the Nellis target sites.

The particular site being shown on the news is all wrong if the photo orientation is true north but one can see all sorts of very large excavations around the city most likely used to provide the top cover for the faciity which I don’t think is actually in a mountain. Natanz is located between this site and Esphahan.


25 posted on 09/29/2009 12:58:25 PM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: mazda77

your informal photo analysis is probably right — what we are seeing is not really the site in question.

*ANY* fixed location/ high-value/ structurally sensitive site is at risk now. If we know where it is, we can destroy it or at worst render it unusable/ inaccessible.


26 posted on 09/29/2009 1:02:26 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: mazda77

BTW, the Zagros looked like God had gotten mad at the earth and wiped his hand from east to west and stopped at the Zagros.

I don’t know enough about geography/ geology to know how they formed, but I cannot imagine the tectonic forces at work to pile up rock that steeply/sharply/ that high.


27 posted on 09/29/2009 1:04:44 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag

Kind of like the Tetons and the borderline between Germany and Austria between Garmisch and Bad Tolz. Kind of the reverse of what happened at the Grand Canyon.


28 posted on 09/29/2009 1:40:11 PM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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